Re: [Talk-GB] Rights of Way Data for Warwickshire

2017-09-14 Thread Chris Hill


On 14/09/2017 19:42, Philip Withnall wrote:

On Thu, 2017-09-14 at 18:37 +0100, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:

PS: To contrast with the good news here, East Riding of Yorkshire is
being decidedly unhelpful at
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/public_rights_of_way_gis_data_
2
, although they'll need to drag their feet for some time to beat
Warwickshire.

That makes for some disappointing reading. What are the reasons
councils could have for withholding a GIS file? That’s not a rhetorical
question — I am actually interested in why they’re being dogged.


I have made some requests of East Riding of Yorkshire council, where I 
live. I've asked for various datasets and some friends have also asked 
for stuff too. Most of our requests were not related to OSM. They 
diligently, consistently and stubbornly refuse to release any data under 
an open licence.


My friend believes it stems from a piece of bad publicity about how the 
council failed to maintain some waterways which were implicated in the 
wide-spread flooding of the area around Hull in 2007. Someone released 
maintenance records unofficially and since then there is a blanket ban 
on releasing any data.


I am grateful to Robert for taking on asking ERoYC for this data.  I 
think he now has the experience and persistence to succeed and I wish 
him well.


--
cheers
Chris Hill (chillly)


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Re: [Talk-GB] Rights of Way Data for Warwickshire

2017-09-14 Thread Philip Withnall
On Thu, 2017-09-14 at 18:37 +0100, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:
> PS: To contrast with the good news here, East Riding of Yorkshire is
> being decidedly unhelpful at
> https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/public_rights_of_way_gis_data_
> 2
> , although they'll need to drag their feet for some time to beat
> Warwickshire.

That makes for some disappointing reading. What are the reasons
councils could have for withholding a GIS file? That’s not a rhetorical
question — I am actually interested in why they’re being dogged.

Philip

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[Talk-GB] Rights of Way Data for Warwickshire

2017-09-14 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
After over 2 years and two interventions from the Information
Commissioner, Warwickshire County Council have finally backed down and
agreed to release their Right of Way GIS data under the Open
Government Licence -- so we'll shortly be able to use it in OSM.

(Their email to
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/public_rights_of_way_information
got blocked by WDTK's anti-spam policy to automatically lock inactive
threads, but hopefully it will get there soon with some updated data
too.)

I'd like to get this data added to my tool at
http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/prow/progress/ but their PRoW numbering
scheme is a bit unusual. Rather then basing the RoW numbers on
parishes, they seem to be using larger areas, which are each assigned
a one or two letter code. I think these are based on the pre-1974
system of boroughs and rural districts:

AE - Atherstone
AL - Alcester
B - Bedworth
K - Kenilworth
L - Leamington
M - Meriden
N - Nuneaton
R - Rugby (rural)
RB - Rugby Borough
SB - Stratford Borough
SD - Stratford (rural) District
SM - Southam
SS - Shipston on Stour
T - Tamworth (rural)
W - Warwick (rural)
WB - Warwick Borough

The RoW numbers are then things like "SB34" and "R28a". Some numbers
in this format are already in OSM south-east of Southam.

As far as my tool goes, I think I'll need to treat these areas as the
"parishes". I don't suppose anyone has any more detailed knowledge of
the RoW system in Warwickshire and would be able to comment?

Robert.

PS: To contrast with the good news here, East Riding of Yorkshire is
being decidedly unhelpful at
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/public_rights_of_way_gis_data_2
, although they'll need to drag their feet for some time to beat
Warwickshire.

-- 
Robert Whittaker

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