Re: [Talk-GB] Scotland countryside mapping
Nick Whitelegg nick_whitel...@... writes: Firstly, while (I believe) you can walk just about anywhere in Scotland, except during the stalking season, there are a number of waymarked footpaths, waymarked similarly to England and Wales. I guess these have no legal relevance but are merely recommended routes. Are these tagged specifically? I think the opposite is the case - it is the legal significance (such as designation=public_footpath in England) that is normally tagged separately. For these that are just roads on the ground, they can be highway=path. I came across a number of occasions where tracks temporarily end, then restart further on, and in between is a relatively easy cross country route which you can follow (unsignposted) This is a theological question on which I don't have the latest doctrine. I would incline to say that they might be useful to have on the map, so put them in, but I doubt there is an agreed tagging schema. -- Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Scotland countryside mapping
On 12/06/2010 22:37, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Firstly, while (I believe) you can walk just about anywhere in Scotland, except during the stalking season, there are a number of waymarked footpaths, waymarked similarly to England and Wales. I guess these have no legal relevance but are merely recommended routes. Are these tagged specifically? I just tagged them note=Waymarked footpath You could tag them as lwn=yes (for 'local walking network'). I've done this for a few paths that seem to be part of a local network of signposted paths. There are also core paths, which will be designated by local councils, and should be signposted etc. Though I don't think any of these have been created yet (there's been various consultations over the last few years). I think it would be worth having a designation=core_path tag for when these appear. Secondly, again while you can walk anywhere, I came across a number of occasions where tracks temporarily end, then restart further on, and in between is a relatively easy cross country route which you can follow (unsignposted) where you don't have to scale drystone walls, scramble through undergrowth etc. AFAIK such recommended routes are not generally put into OSM but need a separate project, but does anyone do otherwise? If there doesn't appear to be any sort of path on the ground (or signs that other people have walked that way), then I probably wouldn't map them. You could tag them as highway=path, trail_visibility=no But the question is where do you draw this recommended route? Should it be the most direct line between the visible paths at each end? It suppose it would be more useful to map what's actually on the ground, ie fields, walls etc, but that isn't always practical. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Scotland countryside mapping
Nick Whitelegg wrote: Firstly, while (I believe) you can walk just about anywhere in Scotland, except during the stalking season, there are a number of waymarked footpaths, waymarked similarly to England and Wales. I guess these have no legal relevance but are merely recommended routes. Are these tagged specifically? I just tagged them note=Waymarked footpath Just because there is open access doesn't mean footpaths with rights of way have ceased to exist. Have a look at: http://www.scotways.com/ I've just spent a week in the highlands and came across the prows from Loch Etive to Bonawe and Steall to Corrour which are signed as public footpaths. I think one of the consequences of the open access is that prows are not maintained by highway authorities any more. Secondly, again while you can walk anywhere, I came across a number of occasions where tracks temporarily end, then restart further on, and in between is a relatively easy cross country route which you can follow (unsignposted) where you don't have to scale drystone walls, scramble through undergrowth etc. AFAIK such recommended routes are not generally put into OSM but need a separate project, but does anyone do otherwise? I found that these trails were often well defined on firm ground and then unclear where a softer piece of peaty ground needed crossing, people seemed to have spread out to negotiate the bog. What I wonder about is how to tag a known and clear route other than as a footpath. I'd like to show my walks but not necessarily have them rendered as footpaths in case people who are unprepared should attempt them. I'd also like a recommendation for a gpslooger that doesn't log whilst stationary and has at least 50hours of battery life AJH ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Scotland countryside mapping
Hello everyone, For the first time since OSM came into being I've just now visited low(ish)land Scotland, i.e. Dumfries and Galloway and wondered what Scottish mappers typically do about these situations. Firstly, while (I believe) you can walk just about anywhere in Scotland, except during the stalking season, there are a number of waymarked footpaths, waymarked similarly to England and Wales. I guess these have no legal relevance but are merely recommended routes. Are these tagged specifically? I just tagged them note=Waymarked footpath Secondly, again while you can walk anywhere, I came across a number of occasions where tracks temporarily end, then restart further on, and in between is a relatively easy cross country route which you can follow (unsignposted) where you don't have to scale drystone walls, scramble through undergrowth etc. AFAIK such recommended routes are not generally put into OSM but need a separate project, but does anyone do otherwise? Thanks, Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb