[Talk-GB] Subjective value of adding FIXMEs by a bot?

2012-03-03 Thread Robert Norris


I can't say I'm convinced about the value of adding FIXMEs to 7000+ postboxes 
in the UK in changeset:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/10834378

1. Collection Times when missing can be cross referenced with the open data 
request with the Royal Mail when the postbox has a reference. See:

http://www.dracos.co.uk/play/locating-postboxes/
+
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/location_of_every_post_box_that

2. If the postbox doesn't have a ref tag, then the absence of itself is an 
obvious thing that doesn't require a FIXME to tell me that it's missing.

There exists tools such as http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/postboxes/ helps one 
determine the absence of ref tags and other UK postbox issues.

Consider other data, is it useful to put a FIXME on highways that have no name?
What about those without speed limits?

Generally tools like http://keepright.ipax.at/ and 
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/ can tell us about these issues. And if not then 
presumably they can be improved to do so, rather than adding FIXMEs into the 
database.

In general this simply adds extra noise into the changeset history of objects 
and areas where no useful (IMHO) change as occurred.

Such large changes (probably performed by a bot) should (and almost be a must) 
be discussed in an appropriate forum before the change - in this case OSM Talk 
GB mailing list.


As such I'm thinking the changeset should probably be reverted/removed.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Subjective value of adding FIXMEs by a bot?

2012-03-03 Thread Andy Allan
On 3 March 2012 16:45, Robert Norris rw_nor...@hotmail.com wrote:


 I can't say I'm convinced about the value of adding FIXMEs to 7000+ postboxes 
 in the UK in changeset:
 ...
 As such I'm thinking the changeset should probably be reverted/removed.

Wholeheartedly agree. Automated QA shouldn't be run against the actual
database, that's why we have all the QA systems. Fixme tags shouldn't
be auto-generated.

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: [Talk-GB] Subjective value of adding FIXMEs by a bot?

2012-03-03 Thread Frederik Ramm

Hi,

On 03/03/2012 05:45 PM, Robert Norris wrote:

As such I'm thinking the changeset should probably be reverted/removed.


Yes, this kind of automated edit is not acceptable. The user seems to 
lean towards that kind of edit, having seemingly auto-added operator 
tags to French phone boxes previously.


I'll remove every FIXME from objects he touched in the last week.

Bye
Frederik

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