Re: [Talk-GB] apostrophe's WAS The last 2%
Hi, As stated by Ed I added not:name tags where I resurveyed to confirm whether the OS or OSM was correct and it was OSM. If it were OS then I corrected OSM based on my survey. So yes, not:name tags are added to reduce the percentage value, but also to save other mappers resurveying the same possible anomalies. This is what I have been doing. I need the anomalies to show up on the ITO tiles but I would like them highlighted in some way - like a dashed line to show that they are anomalies so I don't come back in two weeks time to recheck it because I have forgotten or to warn other folk not to just over write with the OS name. After going over some of the roads in Edinburgh I have found different people using tag combinations like not = %%%name:not = %% as well as not:name= I have changed the ones that I have found to not:name Eventually, what should be left on the tiles in Edinburgh is nothing but the anomalies. I would like the analysis to take out the roads that not:name. The reason is that if proves to me that I know that the road has been surveyed. What's left is a number say 10. These 10 probably do not have a name or they would show up on the ITO tiles. Therefore they are unclassified roads or maybe service roads, They could be roads further in the country or maybe extensions to a cul-de-sac. These are very difficult to find, I could spend hours and hours looking over the map trying to track these down. However if I know they exist then I can look into other methods to find them Cheers Bob --- On Tue, 17/8/10, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote: From: Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] apostrophe's WAS The last 2% To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, 17 August, 2010, 16:42 David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Shane Reynolds shane...@gmail.com To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] The last 2% Hi, I am the developer who works on a number of products including OSM Analysis for ITO. I am slightly confused about making the OS Locator box a dashed box if the not:name tag is present. When we do the processing if any street is found with the not:name tag matching an OS Locator street then these should not be flagged in the stats nor should they be drawn on the map. Are you saying that this is not the case and they are still appearing? If this is true then possibly there is a bug that I may want to address (we are usually a day behind the updated planet file so possibly its something to do with that?) With regard to getting the figures down (in slight fear of being flamed as I am a very novice mapper) - with apostrophes, if the road sign has an apostrophe then I would say the apostrophe should be in OSM and if it is not then it is correct to flag it as a difference. However if the road sign does not have an apostrophe and OS Locator does then probably the road should have a not:name tag added with the apostrophe version of the name. This would remove any apostrophe issues. Shane, great work on your OSM analysis tools. My recollection of the discussion on this list in early June was that apostrophe differences would not be tagged with not:name as this might have a tendency to flood the not:name reports with minor issues. It was also suggested (by me I'll admit) that on the ITO tiles that differences due solely to apostrophes could be marked just in one pale colour, so they could quickly and easily be distinguished from other errors. David OS have expressed an interest in these anomalies, including apostrophes that are different which ever way round. It is as much a difference as any other character missing. I suspect they know the few parts of the country where they are ignored. I have, therefore, been tagging apostrophe anomalies with not:name =* like any other. As to the suggested colour changes I like the ITO tiles just as they are. -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] apostrophe's WAS The last 2%
- Original Message - From: Shane Reynolds shane...@gmail.com To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] The last 2% Hi, I am the developer who works on a number of products including OSM Analysis for ITO. I am slightly confused about making the OS Locator box a dashed box if the not:name tag is present. When we do the processing if any street is found with the not:name tag matching an OS Locator street then these should not be flagged in the stats nor should they be drawn on the map. Are you saying that this is not the case and they are still appearing? If this is true then possibly there is a bug that I may want to address (we are usually a day behind the updated planet file so possibly its something to do with that?) With regard to getting the figures down (in slight fear of being flamed as I am a very novice mapper) - with apostrophes, if the road sign has an apostrophe then I would say the apostrophe should be in OSM and if it is not then it is correct to flag it as a difference. However if the road sign does not have an apostrophe and OS Locator does then probably the road should have a not:name tag added with the apostrophe version of the name. This would remove any apostrophe issues. Shane, great work on your OSM analysis tools. My recollection of the discussion on this list in early June was that apostrophe differences would not be tagged with not:name as this might have a tendency to flood the not:name reports with minor issues. It was also suggested (by me I'll admit) that on the ITO tiles that differences due solely to apostrophes could be marked just in one pale colour, so they could quickly and easily be distinguished from other errors. David With regard to rural roads - if they have no road signs is it not better to use the OS Locator name rather than have no name at all as I think in general OS Locator has been proved to be pretty accurate? (apologies if in my ignorance I do not know that there is a good reason not to do this). Shane ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] apostrophe's WAS The last 2%
David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Shane Reynolds shane...@gmail.com To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] The last 2% Hi, I am the developer who works on a number of products including OSM Analysis for ITO. I am slightly confused about making the OS Locator box a dashed box if the not:name tag is present. When we do the processing if any street is found with the not:name tag matching an OS Locator street then these should not be flagged in the stats nor should they be drawn on the map. Are you saying that this is not the case and they are still appearing? If this is true then possibly there is a bug that I may want to address (we are usually a day behind the updated planet file so possibly its something to do with that?) With regard to getting the figures down (in slight fear of being flamed as I am a very novice mapper) - with apostrophes, if the road sign has an apostrophe then I would say the apostrophe should be in OSM and if it is not then it is correct to flag it as a difference. However if the road sign does not have an apostrophe and OS Locator does then probably the road should have a not:name tag added with the apostrophe version of the name. This would remove any apostrophe issues. Shane, great work on your OSM analysis tools. My recollection of the discussion on this list in early June was that apostrophe differences would not be tagged with not:name as this might have a tendency to flood the not:name reports with minor issues. It was also suggested (by me I'll admit) that on the ITO tiles that differences due solely to apostrophes could be marked just in one pale colour, so they could quickly and easily be distinguished from other errors. David OS have expressed an interest in these anomalies, including apostrophes that are different which ever way round. It is as much a difference as any other character missing. I suspect they know the few parts of the country where they are ignored. I have, therefore, been tagging apostrophe anomalies with not:name =* like any other. As to the suggested colour changes I like the ITO tiles just as they are. -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
