Re: [Talk-GB] defibrillators - was: phone boxes used for other purposes

2016-04-21 Thread Michael Booth 
Wow, poor excuse from the leisure centre - they should deal with the 
actual problem and not a hypothetical one!


I've added one in my town's High Street, but unfortunately it doesn't 
show up on the standard map layer. It would be good if there was an 
"emergency" layer, which listed all the emergency tags and other 
important POIs. The humanitarian layer has police, fire, medical, ATMs, 
taxis, etc. - would make sense to add defibrillators to that list as 
well. How do we go about getting a defibrillator icon on the map?


On 21/04/2016 16:51, Ed Loach wrote:


I spent some time not that long ago trying to survey all the ones in 
Tendring using the list available at


http://www.eastamb.nhs.uk/Get-involved/Community-Public-Access-Defibrillators.htm 



as a starting point of where to look.

I’ve fed back to them some spelling mistakes that are on their list 
(they’ve not corrected them yet), and mentioned one that they aren’t 
aware of (I need to get Morrisons at Waterglade in Clacton to let them 
know officially before they can add it). There are also a couple on 
their list that I can’t find. Possibly inside the swimming pool and 
office that are mentioned, but not externally accessible outside 
opening hours when I surveyed, so they aren’t in OSM yet. I might try 
and get back during opening hours at some point, but this suggests we 
might need opening hours tags (or maybe access tags if they are only 
for customers, for example) for those not always accessible.


I used Overpass to view them

http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/cgh

The reason I mapped them was because our CAMRA branch decided to apply 
for some available funding to purchase some for local village pubs, 
getting the funding for all three that we applied for. One of the 
conditions was that there weren’t any near where we were applying to 
add another. So I needed to know where the existing ones were, and the 
overpass map seemed perfect for that. One of the pubs that was 
originally suggested already had one on the outside. Anyway, the three 
have been delivered to the pubs, and the one I know has been attached 
to the pub I mapped yesterday. One of the other two is (or will be) at 
the pub around the corner from another new one I need to survey


http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/532309

as it appears the different funding sources don’t co-ordinate (or the 
Firs decided to get their own). The final one is (or will be) at the 
Plough in Great Bentley.


This story is another reason why we might want to consider access tags:

http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/leisure_centre_did_not_lend_defib_to_school_when_teacher_collapsed_because_of_health_and_safety_1_4462686

Ed

*From:*Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* 21 April 2016 09:57
*To:* Paul Berry
*Cc:* Talk GB
*Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes

Well as we have a healthcare QP running which seems not to have 
generated a community focuslike we did with schools and there's some 
interest in defibs - why not get cracking on this for the rest of the QP?


regards

Brian

On 19 April 2016 at 12:21, Paul Berry > wrote:


On the subject of defibrillators, they could make a useful GB mapping
project. They need surveying, but it is something that both urban and
rural mappers could get out and find on the lighter evenings.

I quite agree. I've just mapped two near me (one in an old phone box, 
one affixed to the wall of a shop).


I suspect there are far more out there than would be apparent from the 
map: 
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/defibrillators-uk_81299#8/53.635/-2.304


Regards,

/Paul/



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Re: [Talk-GB] defibrillators - was: phone boxes used for other purposes

2016-04-21 Thread Ed Loach 
I spent some time not that long ago trying to survey all the ones in Tendring 
using the list available at 

http://www.eastamb.nhs.uk/Get-involved/Community-Public-Access-Defibrillators.htm
 

as a starting point of where to look.

 

I’ve fed back to them some spelling mistakes that are on their list (they’ve 
not corrected them yet), and mentioned one that they aren’t aware of (I need to 
get Morrisons at Waterglade in Clacton to let them know officially before they 
can add it). There are also a couple on their list that I can’t find. Possibly 
inside the swimming pool and office that are mentioned, but not externally 
accessible outside opening hours when I surveyed, so they aren’t in OSM yet. I 
might try and get back during opening hours at some point, but this suggests we 
might need opening hours tags (or maybe access tags if they are only for 
customers, for example) for those not always accessible.

 

I used Overpass to view them

http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/cgh

 

The reason I mapped them was because our CAMRA branch decided to apply for some 
available funding to purchase some for local village pubs, getting the funding 
for all three that we applied for. One of the conditions was that there weren’t 
any near where we were applying to add another. So I needed to know where the 
existing ones were, and the overpass map seemed perfect for that. One of the 
pubs that was originally suggested already had one on the outside. Anyway, the 
three have been delivered to the pubs, and the one I know has been attached to 
the pub I mapped yesterday. One of the other two is (or will be) at the pub 
around the corner from another new one I need to survey

http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/532309

as it appears the different funding sources don’t co-ordinate (or the Firs 
decided to get their own). The final one is (or will be) at the Plough in Great 
Bentley.

 

This story is another reason why we might want to consider access tags:

http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/leisure_centre_did_not_lend_defib_to_school_when_teacher_collapsed_because_of_health_and_safety_1_4462686

 

Ed

 

 

From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 21 April 2016 09:57
To: Paul Berry
Cc: Talk GB
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] phone boxes used for other purposes

 

Well as we have a healthcare QP running which seems not to have generated a 
community focuslike we did with schools and there's some interest in defibs - 
why not get cracking on this for the rest of the QP?

regards

Brian

 

On 19 April 2016 at 12:21, Paul Berry  wrote:

On the subject of defibrillators, they could make a useful GB mapping
project. They need surveying, but it is something that both urban and
rural mappers could get out and find on the lighter evenings.

 

I quite agree. I've just mapped two near me (one in an old phone box, one 
affixed to the wall of a shop).

 

I suspect there are far more out there than would be apparent from the map: 
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/defibrillators-uk_81299#8/53.635/-2.304

 

Regards,

Paul

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