Re: [Talk-GB] How to get a Relation History?

2012-01-15 Thread David Dixon

Hi Graham,

On 15/01/2012 09:28, Graham Jones wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to find the history of the relation covering the Weardale
Way ( 86561 ).   I can view the relation itself ok at
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/86561, but when I try to
view the history of it with
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/86561/history, I always get
a 'sorry...took too long to retrieve' error.
Does anyone know an alternative way of finding out who edited it before me?


You can, if patient, step back through versions with:
http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/86561/132
http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/86561/131
etc.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Steve_NI in September perhaps?


Alternatively, I'll ask the question here in case the other user reads
this list

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I am minded to believe that the sign I saw with 'Weardale Way' written
on it was a mistake and it should have been a plain 'public footpath'
sign, but I do not know how to check this.   I wondered if whoever had
completed the Weardale Way had another source of information about the
route that we can use in OSM to check it.   If we can confirm that the
sign is incorrect, I will remove the extra spur path from the route.



I'm not the user who recently finished off the Weardale Way (and I don't 
know whether that was done from survey) but surveying the Way has been 
one of my projects.  The route between Frosterley and Wolsingham used to 
be a low level route running close to the railway (the way you've just 
walked), but was subsequently changed to a more interesting higher level 
route (the one that's part of the complete OSM relation).  The signs you 
saw have almost certainly been superseded, but perhaps could be mapped 
as a separate Old Weardale Way or alternative route relation?


Hope that helps,

David

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Re: [Talk-GB] How to get a Relation History?

2012-01-15 Thread Andy Allan
On 15 January 2012 09:28, Graham Jones grahamjones...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I am trying to find the history of the relation covering the Weardale Way (
 86561 ).   I can view the relation itself ok at
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/86561, but when I try to view
 the history of it with
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/86561/history, I always get a
 'sorry...took too long to retrieve' error.
 Does anyone know an alternative way of finding out who edited it before me?

There's a great OSM Deep History services at http://osm.mapki.com/history/

http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=86561

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: [Talk-GB] How to get a Relation History?

2012-01-15 Thread Graham Jones


 There's a great OSM Deep History services at http://osm.mapki.com/history/

 http://osm.mapki.com/history/relation.php?id=86561

 Thanks Andy - I had forgotten about that.

Graham.


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Re: [Talk-GB] How to get a Relation History?

2012-01-15 Thread Graham Jones
On 15 January 2012 10:27, David Dixon da...@ddixon.force9.co.uk wrote:


 I'm not the user who recently finished off the Weardale Way (and I don't
 know whether that was done from survey) but surveying the Way has been one
 of my projects.  The route between Frosterley and Wolsingham used to be a
 low level route running close to the railway (the way you've just walked),
 but was subsequently changed to a more interesting higher level route (the
 one that's part of the complete OSM relation).  The signs you saw have
 almost certainly been superseded, but perhaps could be mapped as a separate
 Old Weardale Way or alternative route relation?

 A change of route would be consistent with what I have seen on the ground
- if I have followed the old route in places, it could account for why it
is so badly signed!
I think having a 'Weardale Way Alternate Route' relation is probably the
best approach, otherwise you get a bit of a mess with all the little bits
of route that do not appear to go anywhere.
I will email the others who have contributed to the route to see what they
know about the alternative bits.

Cheers

Graham.


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Hartlepool, UK.
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Re: [Talk-GB] How to get a Relation History?

2012-01-15 Thread Steve Brook
You could try using the OSM History Browser to list the change sets and
allow you to compare selected changes.

http://osm.virtuelle-loipe.de/history/

I got this from the Route Relations 'h' link on the
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_Long_Distance_
Paths page. It will provide the relation number and take you straight there:
http://osm.virtuelle-loipe.de/history/?type=relation
http://osm.virtuelle-loipe.de/history/?type=relationref=86561 ref=86561

 

Steve

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