Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

2012-09-03 Thread Big Fat Frog
Just my pennysworth, any commercial company company can take this data 
and sell it on, use it for their own commercial purposes etc.  I have 
two limited companies and can personally attest to the fact that 
anything on the CH public register does get used for all sorts of 
nefarious uses.  I don't think us using it to improve our postcode data 
for a free community map is anything we should worry about.


Jonathan

On 31/08/2012 17:59, Andy Robinson wrote:

Not everyone considers a licence of any sort a requirement. It's just us
that expects one or argues otherwise it might be public domain. I recall
when I first came to OSM not understanding why a licence was required at all
(because I'm used to contracts where the terms are explicit and OSM does not
form contract. Little did I know about software!)

What Companies House does make clear is that although data in the register
may likely be subject to third party copyright (where the information has
been provided to them and not generated by them and thus Crown Copyright)
Companies House imposes no rules or requirements on how the information on
the public register is used. That's a pretty clear statement about data in
the public register.

For everything else that they produce Crown Copyright applies but again
provided the normal restrictions regarding Crown Copyright are adhered to
then regarding reuse it again states It places no restriction on how the
information is used after purchase other than the following which only
raises the question to me about data that is not sold but supplied free of
charge.

Cheers
Andy


-Original Message-
From: Matt Williams [mailto:m...@milliams.com]
Sent: 31 August 2012 17:00
To: talk-gb-westmidlands
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

On 31 August 2012 16:50, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com
wrote:


I think that translates to Public Domain Dedication and License (PDDL)

then?

Probably, but I wouldn't feel comfortable using the data without an

explicit

set of license terms. Unless they have done and I just don't understand

their

terminology.

Matt

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source

2012-09-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
[resending as my original reply was inadvertently off-list]

On 31 August 2012 12:12, Andrew Mackenzie a.macken...@bethere.co.uk wrote:

 there is another approach, which is to download the data for all companies
 in the UK from Companies House.

There may be other (open-) databases which include address-postcode
pairs; for example NHS pharmacies, GP surgeries and dentists; police
stations; schools; licenced premises (alcohol, gambling, sex shops)
restaurants and takeaways assessed for health issues; listed
buildings; etc.

-- 
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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