Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Access to High Street, Birmingham for blue badge holders.
Maybe a temporary road closure on Bull Street to be monitored closely as well as marking the High Street as buses, taxi and cycle only for the time being? On Tuesday, March 29, 2022, Ryan Underwood wrote: > I also had a quick ride through here today. > > The section between Carrs Lane and Dale End is shut to all traffic except > buses and, I imagine, black cabs. > > If you come down Dale End via James watt Queensway you can get as far as > Albert Street where you're required to turn left. Carrs Lane is one way > towards High Street, as is High Street on the section between Carrs Lane > and Dale End as there is no right turn into Bull Street due to it being > closed for metro works... > > Bull Street has always been closed for traffic apart from buses. > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2022, Andy Mabbett > wrote: > >> I was there this morning. There are spaces for Blue Badge holders on High >> Street, but they are currently unusable due to road works (and have been - >> and will be - for some time, by the look of it). I've tweeted a picture, >> here: >> >>https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1508829197933948930 >> >> There are alternative (but few) spaces for blue badge holders in Dale >> End, Albert Street and New Meeting Street. >> >> To access the spaces in High Street, exempted (i.e." blue badge") >> vehicles CANNOT enter Moor Street Queensway from The Priory Queensway. They >> must go via Dale End, down (i.e. eastbound along) Albert Street, right onto >> MSQ then right into Carrs Lane. Egress from High Street is via Dale End. >> >> The "Pedestrian and cycle zone - except Blue Badge [and other >> exceptions]" sign on MSQ is still in situ. >> >> How should the permitted route be tagged? >> >> What about tagging the parking spaces? >> >> -- >> Andy Mabbett >> @pigsonthewing >> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk >> >> >> >> On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 at 14:05, Brian Prangle wrote: >> > >> > Hi Andy >> > >> > Don't recall seeing any BB spaces there but the whole place is a mess >> with the tram roadworks and the data is probably a mess too -I gave up on >> trying to fix it after so many people editing trying to interpret the bus >> gates. When are you going in? Can't guarantee when I'll be in the city next >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Brian >> > >> > On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 at 19:50, Andy Mabbett >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm planning a trip by car to central Birmingham for a relative who >> >> has restricted mobility, and so has a blue badge. >> >> >> >> Birmingham CIty Council say there are three spaces for BB holders on >> >> the stretch of High Street between Carrs Lane and Dale End, opposite >> >> Boots. >> >> >> >> OSM has that length of road as "motor_vehicle=no"; it has the same on >> >> Carrs Lane; and on the stretch of Moor Street Queensway after Albert >> >> Street, by which one would approach Carrs Lane from the north (Aston >> >> University) end. The southern end of Dale End (which one would have to >> >> use to leave the area; presuming Lower Bull Street is still closed) is >> >> marked "acccess=destination". >> >> >> >> Are these incorrect? >> >> >> >> GSV shows a "Pedestrian and cycle zone - except Blue badge [and other >> >> exceptions]" sign on MSQ, after Albert Street when coming from the >> >> north, but in images dated March 2021; and the same on Carrs Lane, >> >> from September 2020. Are they still there? >> >> >> >> Can Carrs Lane be approached via MSQ from Digbeth? >> >> >> >> I can do a survey during the trip, but this is chicken-and-egg! >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Andy Mabbett >> >> @pigsonthewing >> >> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list >> >> Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands >> >> >> >> -- >> Andy Mabbett >> @pigsonthewing >> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk >> > ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Access to High Street, Birmingham for blue badge holders.
I also had a quick ride through here today. The section between Carrs Lane and Dale End is shut to all traffic except buses and, I imagine, black cabs. If you come down Dale End via James watt Queensway you can get as far as Albert Street where you're required to turn left. Carrs Lane is one way towards High Street, as is High Street on the section between Carrs Lane and Dale End as there is no right turn into Bull Street due to it being closed for metro works... Bull Street has always been closed for traffic apart from buses. On Tuesday, March 29, 2022, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I was there this morning. There are spaces for Blue Badge holders on High > Street, but they are currently unusable due to road works (and have been - > and will be - for some time, by the look of it). I've tweeted a picture, > here: > >https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1508829197933948930 > > There are alternative (but few) spaces for blue badge holders in Dale End, > Albert Street and New Meeting Street. > > To access the spaces in High Street, exempted (i.e." blue badge") vehicles > CANNOT enter Moor Street Queensway from The Priory Queensway. They must go > via Dale End, down (i.e. eastbound along) Albert Street, right onto MSQ > then right into Carrs Lane. Egress from High Street is via Dale End. > > The "Pedestrian and cycle zone - except Blue Badge [and other exceptions]" > sign on MSQ is still in situ. > > How should the permitted route be tagged? > > What about tagging the parking spaces? > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > > > On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 at 14:05, Brian Prangle wrote: > > > > Hi Andy > > > > Don't recall seeing any BB spaces there but the whole place is a mess > with the tram roadworks and the data is probably a mess too -I gave up on > trying to fix it after so many people editing trying to interpret the bus > gates. When are you going in? Can't guarantee when I'll be in the city next > > > > Regards > > > > Brian > > > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 at 19:50, Andy Mabbett > wrote: > >> > >> I'm planning a trip by car to central Birmingham for a relative who > >> has restricted mobility, and so has a blue badge. > >> > >> Birmingham CIty Council say there are three spaces for BB holders on > >> the stretch of High Street between Carrs Lane and Dale End, opposite > >> Boots. > >> > >> OSM has that length of road as "motor_vehicle=no"; it has the same on > >> Carrs Lane; and on the stretch of Moor Street Queensway after Albert > >> Street, by which one would approach Carrs Lane from the north (Aston > >> University) end. The southern end of Dale End (which one would have to > >> use to leave the area; presuming Lower Bull Street is still closed) is > >> marked "acccess=destination". > >> > >> Are these incorrect? > >> > >> GSV shows a "Pedestrian and cycle zone - except Blue badge [and other > >> exceptions]" sign on MSQ, after Albert Street when coming from the > >> north, but in images dated March 2021; and the same on Carrs Lane, > >> from September 2020. Are they still there? > >> > >> Can Carrs Lane be approached via MSQ from Digbeth? > >> > >> I can do a survey during the trip, but this is chicken-and-egg! > >> > >> -- > >> Andy Mabbett > >> @pigsonthewing > >> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > >> > >> ___ > >> Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list > >> Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands > > > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Access to High Street, Birmingham for blue badge holders.
I was there this morning. There are spaces for Blue Badge holders on High Street, but they are currently unusable due to road works (and have been - and will be - for some time, by the look of it). I've tweeted a picture, here: https://twitter.com/pigsonthewing/status/1508829197933948930 There are alternative (but few) spaces for blue badge holders in Dale End, Albert Street and New Meeting Street. To access the spaces in High Street, exempted (i.e." blue badge") vehicles CANNOT enter Moor Street Queensway from The Priory Queensway. They must go via Dale End, down (i.e. eastbound along) Albert Street, right onto MSQ then right into Carrs Lane. Egress from High Street is via Dale End. The "Pedestrian and cycle zone - except Blue Badge [and other exceptions]" sign on MSQ is still in situ. How should the permitted route be tagged? What about tagging the parking spaces? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 at 14:05, Brian Prangle wrote: > > Hi Andy > > Don't recall seeing any BB spaces there but the whole place is a mess with the tram roadworks and the data is probably a mess too -I gave up on trying to fix it after so many people editing trying to interpret the bus gates. When are you going in? Can't guarantee when I'll be in the city next > > Regards > > Brian > > On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 at 19:50, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> >> I'm planning a trip by car to central Birmingham for a relative who >> has restricted mobility, and so has a blue badge. >> >> Birmingham CIty Council say there are three spaces for BB holders on >> the stretch of High Street between Carrs Lane and Dale End, opposite >> Boots. >> >> OSM has that length of road as "motor_vehicle=no"; it has the same on >> Carrs Lane; and on the stretch of Moor Street Queensway after Albert >> Street, by which one would approach Carrs Lane from the north (Aston >> University) end. The southern end of Dale End (which one would have to >> use to leave the area; presuming Lower Bull Street is still closed) is >> marked "acccess=destination". >> >> Are these incorrect? >> >> GSV shows a "Pedestrian and cycle zone - except Blue badge [and other >> exceptions]" sign on MSQ, after Albert Street when coming from the >> north, but in images dated March 2021; and the same on Carrs Lane, >> from September 2020. Are they still there? >> >> Can Carrs Lane be approached via MSQ from Digbeth? >> >> I can do a survey during the trip, but this is chicken-and-egg! >> >> -- >> Andy Mabbett >> @pigsonthewing >> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk >> >> ___ >> Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list >> Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Access to High Street, Birmingham for blue badge holders.
Hi Andy Don't recall seeing any BB spaces there but the whole place is a mess with the tram roadworks and the data is probably a mess too -I gave up on trying to fix it after so many people editing trying to interpret the bus gates. When are you going in? Can't guarantee when I'll be in the city next Regards Brian On Mon, 28 Mar 2022 at 19:50, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I'm planning a trip by car to central Birmingham for a relative who > has restricted mobility, and so has a blue badge. > > Birmingham CIty Council say there are three spaces for BB holders on > the stretch of High Street between Carrs Lane and Dale End, opposite > Boots. > > OSM has that length of road as "motor_vehicle=no"; it has the same on > Carrs Lane; and on the stretch of Moor Street Queensway after Albert > Street, by which one would approach Carrs Lane from the north (Aston > University) end. The southern end of Dale End (which one would have to > use to leave the area; presuming Lower Bull Street is still closed) is > marked "acccess=destination". > > Are these incorrect? > > GSV shows a "Pedestrian and cycle zone - except Blue badge [and other > exceptions]" sign on MSQ, after Albert Street when coming from the > north, but in images dated March 2021; and the same on Carrs Lane, > from September 2020. Are they still there? > > Can Carrs Lane be approached via MSQ from Digbeth? > > I can do a survey during the trip, but this is chicken-and-egg! > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > ___ > Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list > Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands > ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
