Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Neighbourhood Plan Import
there is little chance of the average mapper verifying them or interacting with them I've always thought that kind of thinking (not to belittle it, as it's a valid thought process) isn't worthwhile - limiting features because we can't imagine it being used is based on the limits of our imagination. Just because we can't see it being used doesn't mean someone else won't, and come up with something that'll solve a neat problem. I would have thought, and I speak only as a passive OSM contributor user, that making OSM a more comprehensive database is a good thing, tying together all those disparate boundaries into one lookup, effectively. Phil -- Philip John, philipjohn.co.uk lichfieldcommunitymedia.org journallocal.co.uk On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:55 AM, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Copied also to talk-gb. The problem is where do we stop? The majority of present/potential boundary data doesn't have a physical presence on the ground. Consider ONS Lower, middle and other output area boundaries or the NAPTAN charging areas that were added with the NAPTAN import. Arguably they are useful in the same way as ward boundaries are but should they be in OSM? Because the number of nonphysical boundaries or areas is potentially limitless I'm in favour of keeping them out of OSM because there is little chance of the average mapper verifying them or interacting with them (in relation to other objects). Perhaps it's time to have nonphysical boundaries pulled from some other database? Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Jonathan Harley [mailto:j...@spiffymap.net] Sent: 23 April 2013 09:29 To: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Neighbourhood Plan Import On 22/04/13 09:27, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone Do we have a collective opinion about this proposed import circulated by stephen.pete...@sky.com mailto:stephen.pete...@sky.com on the talk gb list? Personally I wouldn't want it as I believe we decided not to include ward boundaries as the present cartographic style clutters up and already busy urban map. The data sounds potentially useful, to me. Decisions about imports should be based on usefulness of the data, not on the present cartographic style. It's up to the designer of a particular map style how cluttered or not they want to make it. J. -- Dr Jonathan Harley :Managing Director: SpiffyMap Ltd m...@spiffymap.com Phone: 0845 313 8457 www.spiffymap.com The Venture Centre, Sir William Lyons Road, Coventry CV4 7EZ, UK ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3272 / Virus Database: 3162/6265 - Release Date: 04/22/13 ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] SOTM 2013
Am I mistaken in thinking FOSSGIS is 12-14 June (based on thishttp://www.fossgis.de/wiki/Main_Page/2013 )? Phil P.s. No idea whether you need it, but I'm willing to assist in creating a conference website. On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Brian Prangle bpran...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone Results from Birmingham Convention Bureau's hunt for venues is back with quotes from Aston Uni, Edgbaston cricket ground, Ricoh Arena, Holiday Inn, Clarendon Suite. Based on an attendance of 300 for a conference Fri-Sun with setup time on Thursday the costs( which includes all refreshments and lunches) I estimate are: Aston Uni £24100 Edgbaston Cricket Ground £35350 Holiday Inn £31750 Clarendon Suite £32000 Ricoh Arena was way out and subject to having a match on simultaneously so I discounted it Other venues are still to reply If we have a delegate fee of EUR 50 then that will raise £12000, if EUR 100 then £24,000 which gives us a manageable total to raise through sponsorship. There will be other expenses which I put with a stab in the dark at £15000 All costs are ex VAT so we either need a charitable vehicle for avoiding VAT or increase all the above by 17.5% Availability Aston 6-8 Sep Edgbaston 6-8 13-15 Sep Holiday Inn 6-8 13-15 Sep Clarendon 13-15 Sep Aston Uni has by far the best connectivity facilities the cheapest costs and is the most central - wins my vote (subject to what comes in today). Only downside is availability - not ideal for dates to coincide with FOSSGIS Let me know what you think. Andy R should I distribute to others outside the W Mids who have shown an interest in helping us? Regards Brian ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] National Memorial Arboretum this Saturday
As I live in Lichfield I was hoping to attend but now can't. However, in the interests of boosting interest in and membership of OSM/Mappa Mercia would it be useful for me to post something on my hyperlocal site, Lichfield Live http://lichfieldlive.co.uk inviting people to join in? Phil On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: We have a micro mapping party proposed for this Saturday to the National Memorial Arboretum [1] at Alrewas, Staffs [2]. I'm now available so will be able to make it and I'll do a little planning this week to smooth the day. It would be handy to get an idea of numbers who are planning to come along so if you can respond to the list that would be great. The NMA is a sobering place to visit so don't be surprised if you spend more time reading the memorial details than mapping if you haven’t been before. At 150 acres the site is far bigger than you can individually get around in one day and see everything. The NMA has its own map which they sell for £3 together with a detailed guidebook for £6.50. They also have a simple 3D map on their website [3]. Our plan is to improve our own detail and get as many of the memorials on OpenStreetMap as possible (there are hundreds!) Entrance to the NMA is Free (they encourage donation) and car parking is £3 Pay and Display. Alternatively you can cycle to it by taking Route 54 from Lichfield/Burton [4] and looking out for the signs to the Arboretum through Alrewas or Fradley. Suggest you plan the route first as the Sustrans cycle signs are not that easy to spot. The quiet route signed is through Fradley. Note there is no access from Alrewas directly to Croxall Road, you have to use the main Burton Road (A513) instead. There is a visitor café/restaurant on site which is where I suggest we meet at 10am (they open at 9) and also would be the logical place for lunch unless you bring your own sandwiches. Note that the site is quite exposed and can be bracing when windy so be prepared for the weather on the day. Cheers Andy [1] http://www.thenma.org.uk/ [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.72855lon=-1.7266zoom=16layers=M [3] http://www.thenma.org.uk/the-nma/map/map-of-the-arboretum/ [4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.72986lon=-1.73671zoom=15layers=C ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Proposed Summer timetable
Will try to get to Lichfield one as it's my patch although I'll be at the Fuse Festival all day. Recommend Duke of York, Horse Jockey or George Dragon for pubs... Phil On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent Brian, cheers Andy ** ** *From:* Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 09 April 2012 16:43 *To:* talk-gb-westmidlands *Subject:* [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Proposed Summer timetable ** ** Hi everyone ** ** Here's a suggestion for what we should get up to this summer - based on what people felt was OK at the April meeting and also some invention from me. I've tried to make the monthly meetings accessible by rail and also to get the Birmingham residents moving out nearer to other mappers who trudge regularly into Brum in the winter. ** ** Andy and I also discussed possibly contacting mappers in Birmingham Alabama to see if we could accelerate their map with some armchair mapping ** ** Regards ** ** Brian ** ** Date Activity Venue Time May 3rd Monthly Meeting -summer mapping White Lion Hampton in Arden map when you like beforehand- meet in pub 8pm June 7th Monthly Meeting -summer mapping Coventry (pub TBA) map when you like beforehand- meet in pub 8pm June 23rd Saturday Mini Mapping Party National Arboretum Memorial Alrewas 10:00 AM July 6th Monthly Meeting -summer mapping Lichfield map when you like beforehand- meet in pub 8pm July 21st Saturday Mini Mapping Party Henley-in Arden 10:00 AM Aug 3rd Monthly Meeting -summer mapping Coleshill map when you like beforehand- meet in pub 8pm Sep 6th Monthly Meeting -summer mapping Bromsgrove map when you like beforehand- meet in pub 8pm ** ** ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Feedback on first unassisted changes
Hi all, I've just uploaded a bunch of changes to expand on some I made with Andy Mabbett's assistance (thanks Andy) many moons ago. They are all based on the development at 52.6799280, -1.8239728 and as this is the first time I've performed any edits I'd appreciate any feedback you have (if you have time to look over them). If I'm on the right track I have a couple of GPS traces to add on too. Thanks! Phil -- Philip John, philipjohn.co.uk lichfieldcommunitymedia.org.uk journallocal.co.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Feedback on first unassisted changes
@Ed - Thanks, I think I'll stick with highway=path. Although the developers drawings show some sort of cycling utopia there's nothing to suggest they are especially cycle routes. @Andy - ;) @Andy R - George Road? Nope, sorry! This is the City Wharf development in Lichfield, off Cherry Orchard. Thanks! Phil On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Andy Robinson ajrli...@gmail.com wrote: Am I missing something? That's the same George Road development? (Northcote). If so then I'm not seeing any changes other than my edits from last September. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Andy Mabbett [mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk] Sent: 25 October 2011 14:29 To: talk-gb-westmidlands Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Feedback on first unassisted changes On 25 October 2011 13:40, Philip John p...@philipjohn.co.uk wrote: Hi all, I've just uploaded a bunch of changes to expand on some I made with Andy Mabbett's assistance (thanks Andy) many moons ago. *falls off chair* They are all based on the development at 52.6799280, -1.8239728 and as this is the first time I've performed any edits I'd appreciate any feedback you have (if you have time to look over them). Looks good to me. If I'm on the right track I have a couple of GPS traces to add on too. JFDI! -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4572 - Release Date: 10/24/11 ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Tamworth micro map OSM Midlands social
Like Andy there's a good chance I'll be too wrapped up in election curfuffle to make this I'm afraid! Phil -- Philip John, philipjohn.co.uk thelichfieldblog.co.uk journallocal.co.uk ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Talk-gb-westmidlands Digest, Vol 29, Issue 1
Looks like my debut will have to wait I'm afraid as I'll be in Bedford. Hope to see you all next time! On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:00 PM, talk-gb-westmidlands-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Send Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list submissions to talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-gb-westmidlands-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-gb-westmidlands-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Talk-gb-westmidlands digest... Today's Topics: 1. Reminder: OSM Midlands Social this thursday (Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:14:03 - From: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@gmail.com To: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org, talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Reminder: OSM Midlands Social this thursday Message-ID: 007601cbd78c$6e834100$4b89c300$@googlemail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Reminder that the next midlands social is this Thursday 3rd March from 7:00pm at The Bull, Price Street, Birmingham http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mappa_Mercia#Social_Meet_Up Cheers Andy -- ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands End of Talk-gb-westmidlands Digest, Vol 29, Issue 1 *** ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Hello! I'm Phil.
Hi :) I've just joined - I'm Phil from Lichfield ( http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Philipjohn) Andy Mabbett pointed me here and to the wiki after I decided to finally take the plunge and get myself some OSM apps for my new phone. I'll hopefully be attending the next Mappa Mercia meeting where I guess I'll see some of you. All the best, Phil ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
