Re: [Talk-hr] Ne treba svaka drzavna cesta biti primary

2021-08-30 Thread Janko Mihelić
ned, 29. kol 2021. u 01:57 Matija Nalis 
napisao je:

> BTW ako je zasticena, mozda joj trebamo staviti onda neki
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:protect_class ?
>

Ja sam prije 5 godina ucrtao rutu Majstorske ceste:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6314837
Ali nije cijela zaštićena, trebalo bi naći od kuda do kuda. Valjda
makadamski dio? I nisam siguran kako tagirati. Pretpostavljam area oko
ceste?



> Sto god da smislimo, svakom slucaju bih stavio na to i:
> "note=
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Croatia/Ceste#Klasifikacija_cesta;
> (ili gdje cemo vec napisati ta pravila)
>

Slažem se.


> Nazalost OSM izgleda na dosta highway=primary nema upisan surface=*, pa
> ne znamo koliko toga jos potencijalno ima, vidi:
> https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1aHG


Ja sam prošao ove, i svima sam stavio surface. To su sve novi kružni
tokovi, nove obilaznice, i takve sitnice na kojima se na satelitskim
snimcima vidi da je asfalt. Čini se da i dalje ostaju ovi dosadašnji
primjeri, osim ako imamo neku krivo tagiranu.

  Ako segment "highway=primary" ili "highway=secondary" ima "surface" koji
>   je losiji od "asphalt" i "concrete*", onda taj segment degradiramo u
>   npr. "highway=unclassified" + "surface=xxx" + "note=link_na_wiki"
>

Meni se ovo čini najbolje jer je jednostavno za objasniti i argumentirati.
A tako već i piše u wiki-u, zar ne?

Pitam se hoćemo li tako izgubiti renderiranje nekih županijskih cesta koje
su stvarno važne u svojoj regiji, i želiš ih vidjeti na višim zoomovima da
bude jasno da se tamo može proći, ali su ipak makadamske.

Mislim da Majstorska cesta nije discouraged službeno, kad sam pročitao opet
rečenicu, samo kaže da ju štite od sve jačeg prometa, i ne žele ju
asfaltirati. Možda se nadaju da neće biti previše prometa, ali to je to.
Nemamo dosta za staviti taj tag, pogotovo na one druge makadamske državne
ceste koje nisu kulturno dobro.

Janko
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Re: [Talk-hr] Road network improvements in Croatia

2021-08-30 Thread Murad Vardzelyan via Talk-hr
Hi Matija,

Thank you for all the provided information.

Regarding the incorrectly mapped oneways on 8th of July @simulator1
contacted us and also left comments on relevant changesets. After
discussions, all issues were resolved. You can find the details here:
https://bit.ly/3js7v2B

Regards,
Murad

On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 1:00 AM Matija Nalis <
mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote:

> Hi Murad,
>
> Your post made it this time. This mailing list is "offical" contact, but we
> do use Telegram channel often: see
> https://osm-hr.org/openstreetmap-hrvatska/
>
> I remember there being some issues previously with Bolt users
> incorrectly mapping oneway streets if I recall correctly (and maybe
> some other issues), but I do not know if it was resolved.
> Perhaps the persons who noticed that problems could jump in with more
> details?
>
> Local guidelines are documented at
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Croatia
> and links at the top (in Croatian only, sorry). Mostly regarding road
> classificaton, public transport and hiking/cycling routes.
> I think most of the other stuff is straightforward OSM usage.
>
> Feel free to ask if you have any questions.
>
> Cheers,
> Matija
>
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 09:40:42AM +0400, Murad Vardzelyan via Talk-hr
> wrote:
> > I’m Murad from Bolt.
> >
> > We are improving the road network of Croatia. Project details can be
> found
> > here:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Organised_Editing/Activites/Bolt.
> > We would like to get familiar with local mapping guidelines if there are
> > any.
> >
> > Please, also, let me know if you have preferred contact channels other
> than
> > this talk-list.
> >
> > Waiting for your reply.
> >
> > P.S. We have contacted Croatian community also back in March, but seems
> the
> > message got lost.
> >
> > Regards, Murad from Bolt Map Production
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