Re: [OSM-talk-ie] History of Townlands - What can we put on a slide?

2016-08-15 Thread Killian Driscoll 
On 15 August 2016 at 20:01, Killian Driscoll 
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> On 15 August 2016 at 19:17, Rory McCann  wrote:
>
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>> Hiya,
>>
>> As yous know, myself and Dave are doing a talk about townlands at the
>> global OSM conferences, State of the Map, in Brussels in September.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me more about the history of townlands? Something nice
>> to add to a slide?
>>
>
> See this which talks about boundaries - Baronies etc (you could say the
> townlands line up with the baronies) - based from the Iron Age
> https://www.academia.edu/3206604/Kingship_and_
> Sacrifice_Iron_Age_Bog_Bodies_and_Boundaries if you Google the bog bodies
> in images you should get some you can use
>

This pdf talks a bit about the history and the naming in the 19C etc
Landscape representation: Place and identity in nineteenth-century ordnance
survey maps of *Ireland*

A Smith - Landscape, Memory and *History*, Pluto Press: London, 2003 -
academia.edu

>
>
>
>
>> I've heard that townlands were mentioned in the Táin Bó Cúailnge. Can
>> anyone tell me more about this?
>>
>> I looked at [the scans of the Lebor na hUidre (Book of the Dun
>> Cow)](https://www.isos.dias.ie/master.html?https://www.isos.
>> dias.ie/libraries/RIA/RIA_MS_23_E_25/english/index.html?
>> ref=http://www.isos.dias.ie/libraries/RIA/english/ria_menu.html?ref=),
>> is anyone able to point to a word on a page and say "This is townland
>> X in Co. Whatever". (I tried it myself, but er, it's Old Irish). It
>> would impress to the Americans & other Europeans that the townlands
>> are ancient, and a part of our history, heritage and culture. We
>> didn't spend all these years mapping them just cause.
>>
>> Any hints?
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] History of Townlands - What can we put on a slide?

2016-08-15 Thread Killian Driscoll 
On 15 August 2016 at 19:17, Rory McCann  wrote:

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> Hiya,
>
> As yous know, myself and Dave are doing a talk about townlands at the
> global OSM conferences, State of the Map, in Brussels in September.
>
> Can anyone tell me more about the history of townlands? Something nice
> to add to a slide?
>

See this which talks about boundaries - Baronies etc (you could say the
townlands line up with the baronies) - based from the Iron Age
https://www.academia.edu/3206604/Kingship_and_Sacrifice_Iron_Age_Bog_Bodies_and_Boundaries
if you Google the bog bodies in images you should get some you can use




> I've heard that townlands were mentioned in the Táin Bó Cúailnge. Can
> anyone tell me more about this?
>
> I looked at [the scans of the Lebor na hUidre (Book of the Dun
> Cow)](https://www.isos.dias.ie/master.html?https://www.
> isos.dias.ie/libraries/RIA/RIA_MS_23_E_25/english/index.
> html?ref=http://www.isos.dias.ie/libraries/RIA/english/ria_menu.html?ref=
> ),
> is anyone able to point to a word on a page and say "This is townland
> X in Co. Whatever". (I tried it myself, but er, it's Old Irish). It
> would impress to the Americans & other Europeans that the townlands
> are ancient, and a part of our history, heritage and culture. We
> didn't spend all these years mapping them just cause.
>
> Any hints?
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[OSM-talk-ie] History of Townlands - What can we put on a slide?

2016-08-15 Thread Rory McCann 
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Hiya,

As yous know, myself and Dave are doing a talk about townlands at the
global OSM conferences, State of the Map, in Brussels in September.

Can anyone tell me more about the history of townlands? Something nice
to add to a slide?

I've heard that townlands were mentioned in the Táin Bó Cúailnge. Can
anyone tell me more about this?

I looked at [the scans of the Lebor na hUidre (Book of the Dun
Cow)](https://www.isos.dias.ie/master.html?https://www.isos.dias.ie/libraries/RIA/RIA_MS_23_E_25/english/index.html?ref=http://www.isos.dias.ie/libraries/RIA/english/ria_menu.html?ref=),
is anyone able to point to a word on a page and say "This is townland
X in Co. Whatever". (I tried it myself, but er, it's Old Irish). It
would impress to the Americans & other Europeans that the townlands
are ancient, and a part of our history, heritage and culture. We
didn't spend all these years mapping them just cause.

Any hints?
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[OSM-talk-ie] GoSafe PDF

2016-08-15 Thread Colm Moore 
Hi,
With any public document that is available in PDF, you will normally be able to 
get the source word processor, spreadsheet, etc. original on request.
Colm

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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 09:59:54 +0100
> From: Donie Kelly 
> To: Discussion of OpenStreetMap in Ireland 
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Police Stations
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Are we entitled to any better data format apart from pdf which lists the 
> zones, new and old, would be handy for processing. Kinda hard to extract the 
> stuff from pdf, can’t even copy and paste properly from it.
> 
> 
> Donie
> 

  
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Police Stations

2016-08-15 Thread Donie Kelly 
Are we entitled to any better data format apart from pdf which lists the zones, 
new and old, would be handy for processing. Kinda hard to extract the stuff 
from pdf, can’t even copy and paste properly from it.

KML is low quality with a low number of points. I’ve written code to process 
this data to take the start and end points and get Google to route between the 
two points. It’s fills in the data points but I guess this is no use for 
importing to OSM? I suspect these will have to be added manually.

Has anybody got a better mechanism for importing the kml?

But getting them to write to you and commit to giving this is excellent. So 
many new zones appearing. I’ll make the app if the data comes :)

Donie


> On 15 Aug 2016, at 09:36, Rory McCann  wrote:
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> On 13/08/16 23:02, Donie Kelly wrote:
>> When did we get the GoSafe zones? Are they up to date. What's the
>> tag called?
> 
> Dan got permission here:
> 
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ie/2016-June/001584.html
> 
> I don't think it's actually been imported yet...
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Police Stations

2016-08-15 Thread Rory McCann 
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On 13/08/16 23:02, Donie Kelly wrote:
> When did we get the GoSafe zones? Are they up to date. What's the
> tag called?

Dan got permission here:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ie/2016-June/001584.html

I don't think it's actually been imported yet...
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