Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 at 13:03, Mateusz Konieczny  wrote:

> In this case see right side of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12892

Wikidata uses dynamic page layout: what is on the right for you is
below other components for me, for example.

See also: 
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/spatial-references-to-page-layout-considered-harmful/

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
> From what I have heard there are sometimes (or often depending on the
> source) mismatches between the subject of the Wikidata item and the
> OSM object.

People enter all sorts of bad data into OSM; that's not something
specific to Wikidata IDs.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny



Mar 20, 2019, 1:01 PM by marc.ge...@gmail.com:

> AFAIK, one should use the main language of the area in which the
> feature is located. I think it is supposed to follow the language used
> to determine the name tag.
> So for the Belgian/Flemish town Antwerpen (Antwerp in English), you
> should use wikipedia=nl:Antwerpen (stad)
> This links to the Wikipedia page: > 
> https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerpen_(stad) 
> 
> Wikipedia knows that the English page is
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerp 
> >  (perhaps by using Wikidata
> internally)
>
Yes, the most useful part of Wikidata is linking Wikipedia articles 
in various languages with each other.

In this case see right side of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12892 

And Wikipedia is using this data to display


> This link and links to over a hundred other languages is found on the left
>

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Marc Gemis
> > you can find linked Wikipedia articles with slightly different subjects
> > in different languages.
>
> All of these are yet more good reasons to tag with Wikidata, rather
> than Wikipedia.

From what I have heard there are sometimes (or often depending on the
source) mismatches between the subject of the Wikidata item and the
OSM object.
Not a problem if people only need some additional information and can
see that both subjects do not match entirely, but poses problems if a
program combines OSM and Wikidata data.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
> > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:53 AM  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > How do you intend to deal with bi-lingual areas where having Wikipedia 
> > > > links in both languages is an important cultural consideration?

> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:45 PM  wrote:

> >  How is 'the proper' language decided?

On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 at 12:01, Marc Gemis  wrote:

> There is no need to add more than 100 Wikipedia links (the number of
> languages for which there is an article on Antwerpen) to OSM.
>
> This is a problem for Brussels, where OSM has no real preference for
> language. Should be point to the Dutch or French version?
>
> you can find linked Wikipedia articles with slightly different subjects
> in different languages.

All of these are yet more good reasons to tag with Wikidata, rather
than Wikipedia.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 19:59, Colm Moore  wrote:

> Note that subject:wikipedia=* doesn't create a hyperlink like wikipedia=*
> does. I'll hold off making changes for the moment.

"tagging for the editor" is even less useful than "tagging for the render".

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 18:12, Mateusz Konieczny  wrote:

> Mar 19, 2019, 5:04 PM by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk:

> > Can you do this outside Ireland also?

> Are you interested in Ireland, part of the Ireland or some other part of the 
> world?

I'm in the UK (so please do that), but have a global interest in
improving OSM/Wikidata+Wikipedia integration.

> (in fact this bot edit is result of project that was about listing invalid
> wikipedia and wikidata tags).

Is that documented, please?

Thanks also for your other answers; duly noted.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 18:06, Mateusz Konieczny  wrote:

> Mar 19, 2019, 5:11 PM by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk:
>
> > This is why its batter to tag with Wikidata IDs.

"better"!

> My favorite form is both wikipedia and wikidata tag,
> wikipedia tag is human readable while wikidata is more stable
> and allows easily follow article name changes.

Good editing tools will show the human-readable label from Wikidata.

IIRC JOSM does this through a "Wikipedia" plugin.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Marc Gemis
AFAIK, one should use the main language of the area in which the
feature is located. I think it is supposed to follow the language used
to determine the name tag.
So for the Belgian/Flemish town Antwerpen (Antwerp in English), you
should use wikipedia=nl:Antwerpen (stad)
This links to the Wikipedia page: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerpen_(stad)
Wikipedia knows that the English page is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antwerp (perhaps by using Wikidata
internally)
This link and links to over a hundred other languages is found on the left

So either the data consumer or Wikipedia should be able to direct you
immediately to the English page if your browser settings (or app
settings) indicate that you prefer English over Dutch.
I don't know whether Wikipedia actually does this.

There is no need to add more than 100 Wikipedia links (the number of
languages for which there is an article on Antwerpen) to OSM.

This is a problem for Brussels, where OSM has no real preference for
language. Should be point to the Dutch or French version?

Note that people pointed out in the past that you can find linked
Wikipedia articles with slightly different subjects in different
languages.

I am still not really happy with this, but hey, if this is what the
majority wants, I'm not going to be a dissident.

m.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:45 PM  wrote:
>
> How do I tag for this situation?
>
>  How is 'the proper' language decided?
>
> Phil
>
> On Wednesday, 20 March 2019, Marc Gemis wrote:
> > The reply that I got more than a year ago when the Mapbox team was
> > doing a similar quest, was that the Wikipedia pages for multiple
> > languages are linked and that the data consumer should display the
> > page in the proper language.
> >
> > m.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:53 AM  wrote:
> > >
> > > How do you intend to deal with bi-lingual areas where having Wikipedia 
> > > links in both languages is an important cultural consideration?
> > >
> > > Phil (trigpoint)
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, 19 March 2019, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mar 19, 2019, 3:10 PM by r...@technomancy.org:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure why one would bother with this, but whatever.
> > > > >
> > > > It went as follows:
> > > >
> > > > - I made small prototype tool listing tourism attractions based on OSM 
> > > > data
> > > > - during development I discovered massive amount of broken wikipedia 
> > > > and wikidata tags
> > > > - due to scale and that problems were fixable by automatic edit I made 
> > > > a program for bot edits
> > > > (library parts ended on 
> > > > https://github.com/matkoniecz/osm_bot_abstraction_layer 
> > > >  and
> > > > https://github.com/matkoniecz/wikibrain 
> > > >  )
> > > > - I made bot edits that fixed tens of thousands objects in Poland
> > > > - in most cases (except one depending on links to TERYT, official 
> > > > government dataset in Poland)
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> > > > - so now I am checking whatever I would be allowed to run this script 
> > > > in various places,
> > > > including ones where some tagging issues are quite rare and would not 
> > > > justify
> > > > writing and testing an OSM bot - but running existing one is IMHO a 
> > > > good idea
> > > >
> > > > > Are they any cases where there are more than wikipedia:XX tag, and 
> > > > > what will you do in that case? What will the wikipedia tag be?
> > > > >
> > > > In case of existing matching wikipedia tag - there is no problem and 
> > > > wikipedia:XX tags
> > > > will be removed.
> > > >
> > > > Otherwise object will be skipped for a manual review.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread Marc Gemis
The reply that I got more than a year ago when the Mapbox team was
doing a similar quest, was that the Wikipedia pages for multiple
languages are linked and that the data consumer should display the
page in the proper language.

m.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 10:53 AM  wrote:
>
> How do you intend to deal with bi-lingual areas where having Wikipedia links 
> in both languages is an important cultural consideration?
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
>
> On Tuesday, 19 March 2019, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> >
> > Mar 19, 2019, 3:10 PM by r...@technomancy.org:
> >
> > > I'm not sure why one would bother with this, but whatever.
> > >
> > It went as follows:
> >
> > - I made small prototype tool listing tourism attractions based on OSM data
> > - during development I discovered massive amount of broken wikipedia and 
> > wikidata tags
> > - due to scale and that problems were fixable by automatic edit I made a 
> > program for bot edits
> > (library parts ended on 
> > https://github.com/matkoniecz/osm_bot_abstraction_layer 
> >  and
> > https://github.com/matkoniecz/wikibrain 
> >  )
> > - I made bot edits that fixed tens of thousands objects in Poland
> > - in most cases (except one depending on links to TERYT, official 
> > government dataset in Poland)
> > scripts can be used in other regions
> > - so now I am checking whatever I would be allowed to run this script in 
> > various places,
> > including ones where some tagging issues are quite rare and would not 
> > justify
> > writing and testing an OSM bot - but running existing one is IMHO a good 
> > idea
> >
> > > Are they any cases where there are more than wikipedia:XX tag, and what 
> > > will you do in that case? What will the wikipedia tag be?
> > >
> > In case of existing matching wikipedia tag - there is no problem and 
> > wikipedia:XX tags
> > will be removed.
> >
> > Otherwise object will be skipped for a manual review.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-20 Thread phil
How do you intend to deal with bi-lingual areas where having Wikipedia links in 
both languages is an important cultural consideration? 

Phil (trigpoint)

On Tuesday, 19 March 2019, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> 
> Mar 19, 2019, 3:10 PM by r...@technomancy.org:
> 
> > I'm not sure why one would bother with this, but whatever.
> >
> It went as follows:
> 
> - I made small prototype tool listing tourism attractions based on OSM data
> - during development I discovered massive amount of broken wikipedia and 
> wikidata tags
> - due to scale and that problems were fixable by automatic edit I made a 
> program for bot edits
> (library parts ended on 
> https://github.com/matkoniecz/osm_bot_abstraction_layer 
>  and
> https://github.com/matkoniecz/wikibrain 
>  )
> - I made bot edits that fixed tens of thousands objects in Poland
> - in most cases (except one depending on links to TERYT, official government 
> dataset in Poland)
> scripts can be used in other regions
> - so now I am checking whatever I would be allowed to run this script in 
> various places,
> including ones where some tagging issues are quite rare and would not justify
> writing and testing an OSM bot - but running existing one is IMHO a good idea
> 
> > Are they any cases where there are more than wikipedia:XX tag, and what 
> > will you do in that case? What will the wikipedia tag be?
> >
> In case of existing matching wikipedia tag - there is no problem and 
> wikipedia:XX tags
> will be removed.
> 
> Otherwise object will be skipped for a manual review.
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-19 Thread Colm Moore
Hi,

Note that subject:wikipedia=* doesn't create a hyperlink like wikipedia=* does. 
I'll hold off making changes for the moment.

Compare these:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1350073645
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5167698292

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny



Mar 19, 2019, 2:04 PM by colmmoor...@hotmail.com:

> Hi,
>
> 1. If it makes things easier for people, then go for it.
>
> 2. I add the wikipedia tag to>  a variety of objects, not just geographical 
> entities. Why won't these be converted?
>
wikipedia tag is supposed to be specifically about mapped object

For example statue of George Boole would have
subject:wikipedia=en:George Boole
tag, not
wikipedia=en:George Boole

Or
brand:wikipedia=en:McDonald's
on a McDonald's fast food rather than
wikipedia=en:McDonald's

See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikipedia#Secondary_Wikipedia_links 
 
for more info.

> 4. Are there actually only about 40 entries to be changed?
>
Yes, but note
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny_-_bot_account/elimination_of_old-style_Wikipedia_links_in_Ireland#Repetition
 

that it may be rerun in future.


> http://stat.latlon.org/ie/latest/tags-w.html 
> 
> wikidata 3904
> wikimedia_commons 3
> wikipedia 1633
> wikipedia:de 1
> wikipedia:en 38
> wikipedia:fi 1
> wikipedia_1 1
>
> 5. Is there a big discrepancy between the number of > wikidata (> 3904> ) and 
> wikimedia (> 1633> ) objects? Is this an issue?
>
In Poland tagging standard is to use both wikipedia and wikidata tags if 
possible, if
the tagging standard in Ireland is the same I may add missing wikipedia and 
wikidata tags.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny

Mar 19, 2019, 3:10 PM by r...@technomancy.org:

> I'm not sure why one would bother with this, but whatever.
>
It went as follows:

- I made small prototype tool listing tourism attractions based on OSM data
- during development I discovered massive amount of broken wikipedia and 
wikidata tags
- due to scale and that problems were fixable by automatic edit I made a 
program for bot edits
(library parts ended on https://github.com/matkoniecz/osm_bot_abstraction_layer 
 and
https://github.com/matkoniecz/wikibrain 
 )
- I made bot edits that fixed tens of thousands objects in Poland
- in most cases (except one depending on links to TERYT, official government 
dataset in Poland)
scripts can be used in other regions
- so now I am checking whatever I would be allowed to run this script in 
various places,
including ones where some tagging issues are quite rare and would not justify
writing and testing an OSM bot - but running existing one is IMHO a good idea

> Are they any cases where there are more than wikipedia:XX tag, and what will 
> you do in that case? What will the wikipedia tag be?
>
In case of existing matching wikipedia tag - there is no problem and 
wikipedia:XX tags
will be removed.

Otherwise object will be skipped for a manual review.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny



Mar 19, 2019, 5:04 PM by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk:

> On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 08:49, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com 
> > > wrote:
>
>> For example "wikipedia:en=Ireland" is an old style link, while
>> "wikipedia=en:Ireland" is a form that is currently standard.
>>
>> Please comment no matter what you think about this idea! I will not
>> make the edit without a clear support so please comment if you think
>> that it is a good idea and if you think that it should not be done.
>>
>
> Sounds good. Can you do this outside Ireland also?
>
For now I processed Poland and USA.

I posted on mailing lists for Australia and Ireland, and I am planning to do it 
for GB.

It is not done as global edit as within Ukraine, Belarus and some other 
countries
multitagging Wikipedia tags is done as compromise to language wars -
and I am not interested in retriggering this case of "Ukraine vs Russia" 
discussions.

Also, proposing global bot edits is frequently protested by people believing
that any automated edit is harmful because it causes object to be edited.

>> Links detected as invalid (leading to disambigs, articles about humans,
>> animals, plants, events etc) are also skipped
>>
>
> Can you flag these up; perhaps by writing to a list on a wiki page?
> They need to be reviewed, and probably corrected.
>
OK! I will do it and post about it on this mailing list.

Are you interested in Ireland, part of the Ireland or some other part of the 
world?
Feel free to specify as narrow as you would like, requests up to
"withing X km from town Y" are feasible.

(in fact this bot edit is result of project that was about listing invalid 
wikipedia and wikidata tags).
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny



Mar 19, 2019, 5:11 PM by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk:

> This is why its batter to tag with Wikidata IDs.
>
My favorite form is both wikipedia and wikidata tag,
wikipedia tag is human readable while wikidata is more stable
and allows easily follow article name changes.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-19 Thread Mateusz Konieczny



Mar 19, 2019, 6:13 PM by r...@technomancy.org:

> On 19/03/2019 09:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
>
>> Old style wikipedia link is one where language is stored in key, not in
>> value.
>>
>> For example "wikipedia:en=Ireland" is an old style link, while
>> "wikipedia=en:Ireland" is a form that is currently standard.
>>
>
> To expand, what do you mean here? What makes one the "standard" and the other 
> not? 
>
Usage. See https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/wikipedia 
 and
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/wikipedia%3Aen 
 (8000 vs 1 088 000 
uses).

To lesser degree - OSM Wiki recommendations and support from data consumers.

>
> What/who consumers wikipedia* tags in OSM and what do they do with it?
>
As usual with data consumers - various things.

For example fetching descriptions from Wikipedia (Osmand and other map
displays) or influence on search results rankings (or example Nominatim) and 
others uses.

https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/wikipedia#projects 
 has lists of 4 more 
projects that
submitted used tags to taginfo, but there are more not mentioned there.


> Which format is better for the data consumers?
>
One where it is enough to support single tagging scheme.

>
> If the wikipedia=en:X format is better than wikipedia:en=X format for data 
> consumer Y, that's one thing. It just seems to squash a lot of data into one, 
> and run the risk of losing data, since many wikipedia tags would be removed 
> from OSM...
>
Information would not be lost. If there would be only wikipedia:en tag then 
wikipedia tag would be created.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-19 Thread Rory McCann

On 19/03/2019 09:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:

Old style wikipedia link is one where language is stored in key, not in
value.

For example "wikipedia:en=Ireland" is an old style link, while
"wikipedia=en:Ireland" is a form that is currently standard.


To expand, what do you mean here? What makes one the "standard" and the 
other not? What/who consumers wikipedia* tags in OSM and what do they do 
with it? Which format is better for the data consumers? If the 
wikipedia=en:X format is better than wikipedia:en=X format for data 
consumer Y, that's one thing. It just seems to squash a lot of data into 
one, and run the risk of losing data, since many wikipedia tags would be 
removed from OSM...


Rory

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 13:04, Colm Moore  wrote:

> 2. I add the wikipedia tag to a variety of objects, not just geographical 
> entities.

Please don't do that; at least not in the manner discussed below.

> Politician's office
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6343961415

That object does not map Leo Varadkar TD (presumably, it's his
registered office?). If you wish to add a Wikipedia tag, use something
like:

   occupant:wikipedia=en:Leo Varadkar

> Memorials
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4217632743

That should be subject:wikipedia=en:Lafcadio Hearn.

> Historic feature
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6307110273

manufacturer:wikipedia=en:Henry_Pooley_%26_Son

> 3. There are some features where the name of the Wikipedia entry has changed, 
> e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3079181210/history and 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col%C3%A1iste_Moibh%C3%AD - I have no 
> recollection of adding the OSM entry originally. :)

This is why its batter to tag with Wikidata IDs.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 08:49, Mateusz Konieczny  wrote:

> For example "wikipedia:en=Ireland" is an old style link, while
> "wikipedia=en:Ireland" is a form that is currently standard.

> Please comment no matter what you think about this idea! I will not
> make the edit without a clear support so please comment if you think
> that it is a good idea and if you think that it should not be done.

Sounds good. Can you do this outside Ireland also?

> Links detected as invalid (leading to disambigs, articles about humans,
> animals, plants, events etc) are also skipped

Can you flag these up; perhaps by writing to a list on a wiki page?
They need to be reviewed, and probably corrected.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-19 Thread Rory McCann

I'm not sure why one would bother with this, but whatever.

Are they any cases where there are more than wikipedia:XX tag, and what 
will you do in that case? What will the wikipedia tag be?


On 19/03/2019 09:49, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:


Old style wikipedia link is one where language is stored in key, not in
value.

For example "wikipedia:en=Ireland" is an old style link, while
"wikipedia=en:Ireland" is a form that is currently standard.

Many old-style Wikipedia links remain and updating them to new style
manually is boring, tedious and some mistakes may appear during this.

Some OSM elements have old-style Wikipedia link without new tag what
means that this data is harder to process for editors and data
consumers.

Also, remaining old-style Wikipedia tags confuse mappers, especially
less experienced.

Therefore I propose to run an automatic edit that will replace
old-style Wikipedia links with current style of Wikipedia links.

Please comment no matter what you think about this idea! I will not
make the edit without a clear support so please comment if you think
that it is a good idea and if you think that it should not be done.

Plan is as follows:

I will take full responsibility for all edits and if anything goes
wrong I will fix it.

Editing is limited to objects with old-style Wikipedia tags is not
conflicting with existing wikipedia=* or wikidata=* tag or other
old-style wikipedia tags.

Links detected as invalid (leading to disambigs, articles about humans,
animals, plants, events etc) are also skipped

Each changeset contains a single element or group of close elements to
avoid edits spanning across large areas (it is impossible in cases
where edited object itself spans very large area)

After every changeset bot sleeps for one minute.

This is proposed as reoccurring edit and may be made as soon as new
old-style wikipedia links appear.

documentation page on OSM Wiki is at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny_-_bot_account/elimination_of_old-style_Wikipedia_links_in_Ireland

I have experience with automatic edits. exactly the same task was run
in Poland to remove more than 6000 old-style Wikipedia links what was
completed without any issues.

I recently processed also old-style Wikipedia tags across USA.


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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland

2019-03-19 Thread Colm Moore
Hi,

1. If it makes things easier for people, then go for it.

2. I add the wikipedia tag to a variety of objects, not just geographical 
entities. Why won't these be converted?

Politician's office
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6343961415

Memorials
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4217632743
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6305566850
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6307195859
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5303844909
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5500055968
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3506865301
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5167698292
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4230221810

Historic feature
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6307110273

3. There are some features where the name of the Wikipedia entry has changed, 
e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3079181210/history and 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Col%C3%A1iste_Moibh%C3%AD - I have no 
recollection of adding the OSM entry originally. :)

4. Are there actually only about 40 entries to be changed?

http://stat.latlon.org/ie/latest/tags-w.html

  *   wikidata 3904
  *   wikimedia_commons 3
  *   wikipedia 1633
  *   wikipedia:de 1
  *   wikipedia:en 38
  *   wikipedia:fi 1
  *   wikipedia_1 1

5. Is there a big discrepancy between the number of wikidata (3904) and 
wikimedia (1633) objects? Is this an issue?

Colm


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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 09:49:08 +0100 (CET)
From: Mateusz Konieczny 
Subject: [OSM-talk-ie] Proposed mechanical edit - elimination of
old-style Wikipedia links in Ireland


Links detected as invalid (leading to disambigs, articles about humans,
animals, plants, events etc) are also skipped
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