Re: [Talk-transit] BuzMap - Global Transit Map http://buz-map.com

2020-01-26 Thread Teemu Ikonen



Hi,

On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 04:32, Mark Lester via Talk-transit 
 wrote:

Hello Mappers,
I've been building this http://buz-map.com, there's a couple of read 
me's at the top. There are a stack of issues but this now looks 
eminently doable.


Pretty impressive. There's obviously some problems with the UI and data 
coverage (e.g. Helsinki region bus traffic is missing, the GTFS is 
here: dev.hsl.fi/gtfs/hsl.zip ), but these can be fixed.


A couple of questions:

Is the code going to be published under an open source license at some 
point?


Do you have plans for a tile server for the transport network overlay 
or a complete new transport layer with OSM data? This would lose the 
interactivity, but I would love to see this map as a layer in my 
favorite map app.


Best,
Teemu



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Re: [Talk-transit] Mapping intercity bus routes

2014-05-27 Thread Teemu Ikonen
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 The original Oxomoa scheme already contained a solution to your
 problem[1]. It simply is not widely used yet.
 [1]http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Oxomoa/%C3%96PNV-Schema#Bus-_und_Oberleitungsbuslinien

Thanks for pointing me to this page, it indeed has all the bus types I
could think of, and some more.

To be explicit, the link above has these values for the 'bus' key
(current usage from taginfo in parentheses):

express (97) / long_distance (70) / on_demand (102) / regular (299) /
school (177) / shopping (2) / shuttle (4) / train_replacement (0) /
urban (1202)

With the exception of 'train_replacement', these are even used somewhat.

In principle bus=express and bus=long_distance routes could be
rendered also in lower zoom levels as coaches / intercity buses, but
as was pointed out in this thread, express buses can also be found on
local routes. A separate service=express tag would then be needed.

When mapping a fast intercity bus service, the possible tag
combinations would then be route=bus + bus=long_distance +
service=express, or as I originally proposed, route=coach +
service=express.

It would be nice to get a consensus on this and eventually document
these tags in the wiki. Any thoughts?

Best,
Teemu

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[Talk-transit] Mapping intercity bus routes

2014-05-24 Thread Teemu Ikonen
Hi,

The current public transport schema bundles local bus transit routes
together with intercity buses (coaches), both routes are tagged with
route=bus.

Since buses and coaches rarely are part of the same network, this
makes things rather confusing for users of transit maps like
Öpnvkarte. If I want to go to another part of town, I'll need the
routes of the local (bus) transit network and intercity services are
distraction, but if I'm going to another city, the opposite is true.

Looking at main bus stations in European cities, one sees that not
many intercity routes are mapped. Given the current potential for
confusion with local transit, this is probably a good thing, but it
also means that OSM is missing a significant part of the public
transport network.

The obvious fix would be to create a new public transport type in
addition to bus, train, tram, etc. Since British English seems to be
the standard in OSM, the new type should be called 'coach'.

In practice, this type would be used in public_transport=stop_position
nodes with a coach=yes tag and in routes with route=coach. Coach
routes should have tags similar to bus routes (name, network, etc.).
Transit maps should render coach routes with a unique color to
distinguish them from other networks.

Are there any downsides to this idea? How would one go about proposing
coach routes as a standard, documented feature? Should a new proposal
be made, or can the active public transport proposal at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport
be amended?

Best,
Teemu

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