[OSM-talk] Problem committing changes
Hi, Wondering if anyone can help with the following problem: I had a very large JOSM chageset timeout/fail last weekend, and I haven't been able to a create a new chageset from JOSM since, nor save any changes from Potlatch? Thanks, M ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Problem committing changes
On 25/11/12 13:44, Miloš Komarčević wrote: I had a very large JOSM chageset timeout/fail last weekend, and I haven't been able to a create a new chageset from JOSM since, nor save any changes from Potlatch? The upload process had got stuck in some sort of loop and was holding a lock on your user record. I've killed it now, so things should start working again. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Problem committing changes
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 25/11/12 13:44, Miloš Komarčević wrote: I had a very large JOSM chageset timeout/fail last weekend, and I haven't been able to a create a new chageset from JOSM since, nor save any changes from Potlatch? The upload process had got stuck in some sort of loop and was holding a lock on your user record. I've killed it now, so things should start working again. That did it, thanks much! M ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] What to call OSM data?
Hi All, So I met with a group looking to link OSM data to other data. Meaning have a link that says this village in OSM is equivalent to this village in these 3 other datasets. Part of this process involves having metadata for everything. The people I met with asked me a question I hadn't been asked before: What do people prefer the OSM data be described as in the metadata? So for example crowdsourced infromation, volunteered geographic information, non-authoritative data, or something else? Does anyone have suggestions or a preference? I had said I would at least bring it up on this mailing list for more feedback. Best, -Kate ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines
Hi Matt, The question about mapping old, historical features is much wider than just the Australian context. I'm pretty sure the current consensus is that we old rail lines should be mapped - even if there is not much to see on the ground. There might be more than you think - there's a station building (now a community hall, I think), other things too, perhaps. There are probably other former railways about with much less to see (the Rosstown Railway comes to mind) - at least with this one there are physical remnants such as tracks. So, yes, I object. Feel free to raise the issue on the main OSM talk list though. Steve On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Matt White mattwh...@iinet.net.au wrote: A question for the list regarding historical/disused rail lines. The old inner circle rail line in Melbourne is mapped in OSM, and I'm unconvinced of it being a good thing. Here's a little bit of it that I can talk about with some local knowledge of: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?** lat=-37.780512lon=144.982887**zoom=18layers=Mhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-37.780512lon=144.982887zoom=18layers=M Given that there is pretty much no trace of the rail line left, why are we mapping it? It was on the ground 30 years ago, but it certainly isn't now. (That said, there are some small pieces of the track remaining - where it crosses Rae St and Brunswick St Nth, two or three 15 metre sections + a set of points just north of the end of Birkenhead St (including what appears to be an old rail weighbridge), and a short three metre section in Edinburgh Gardens, and the old North Carlton station building is still there) If there are no complaints, I'm going to remove it. It's historical, and appears on old maps, but does not exist today. Matt __**_ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-auhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Tagging dirt and 4x4 roads - new approach
* Unpaved roads are difficult to really classify the surface in terms of anything other than dirt/sand/rock. The surface state changes over time from smooth immediately after grading, to possibly deep ruts/corrugations/mud after rain and wear. In this case, my personal opinion would be to use some sort of tag like surface condition (options being something like: maintained | uneven | degraded | corrugated | rocky | rutted | deep_rutted, but even those change immediately after track maintenance), with perhaps a best/worst case tag or similar One thought that occurs here would be to tag the *maintenance* of a track rather than its *current state*. Some tracks are essentially never maintained, while others are graded frequently. That, combined with the season that you're travelling (eg, late summer vs early spring) might be enough to make an informed decision. * Overall, it seems like Australia has both the special conditions requiring some extensions to the current 4WD/dirt road mapping data and the active mapping community to back it up. I don't see why we shouldn' agree on a handful of tagging rules for the AU conditions on this list and use them (assuming that they are well thought out etc). Document them nicely so the rest of the world can take them up, and make the rendering changes etc ourselves (how hard can a casing change be in the renderer? If we can do it an submit it to the trac system...) AFAIK the major issue with rendering changes is resources to implement them. So, if someone writes the code to do it, much greater chance of it happening. Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Tagging dirt and 4x4 roads - new approach
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 20:35 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: One thought that occurs here would be to tag the *maintenance* of a track rather than its *current state*. Yep, that would be useful info indeed. Not sure how 'collectible' it would be though. The (dirt) road that I live on is graded reasonably frequently but I could not tell you how many times per year or when it was last done. And I live on that road ! AFAIK the major issue with rendering changes is resources to implement them. So, if someone writes the code to do it, much greater chance of it happening. Maybe, maybe not. The actual changes required are not that extensive really. I have built a mapnik and pgsql system on my laptop using the OSM config files. Its trivial to include new tags into the rendering database. (Although unfortunately, 4wd_only has some technical issues.) Getting Mapnik to then render them is more a matter of agreeing on how to do it than actually doing it IMHO. Sadly, our desired dashed casing is already used for tunnels, but possibly a different colour will work, or dashed infill ? But importantly, we can copy, in part, how its done for a tunnel. Issue really is these guys will have some pretty heavy change controls in place. And there will be some pressure to not add anything unless its really proved essential, every extra bit of processing slows each refresh. So, we need a really good case rather than clever coding I'm afraid. David ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines
Hi, I'm pretty sure we've reached consensus in the past that if there is absolutely no evidence of it on the ground - no tunnels - no cuttings - no tracks. In other words there was a railway line, but now it is a shopping mall, then it doesn't get mapped. We don't maintain layers of history in OSM right now. If there is evidence still on the ground, then we have tags for that. What is the source for the data that is there, if there is no evidence on the ground? Where was it copied from? Ian. On 25 November 2012 17:15, Matt White mattwh...@iinet.net.au wrote: A question for the list regarding historical/disused rail lines. The old inner circle rail line in Melbourne is mapped in OSM, and I'm unconvinced of it being a good thing. Here's a little bit of it that I can talk about with some local knowledge of: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?** lat=-37.780512lon=144.982887**zoom=18layers=Mhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-37.780512lon=144.982887zoom=18layers=M Given that there is pretty much no trace of the rail line left, why are we mapping it? It was on the ground 30 years ago, but it certainly isn't now. (That said, there are some small pieces of the track remaining - where it crosses Rae St and Brunswick St Nth, two or three 15 metre sections + a set of points just north of the end of Birkenhead St (including what appears to be an old rail weighbridge), and a short three metre section in Edinburgh Gardens, and the old North Carlton station building is still there) If there are no complaints, I'm going to remove it. It's historical, and appears on old maps, but does not exist today. Matt __**_ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-auhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines
Not sure of the original source - the rail line is in old Melways etc. and in some out of copy right maps I have. The existence of the inner circle rail line isn't really a secret. The problem for me is that it just isn't there any more (aside from the handful of things I mentioned below, which I agree can be kept mapped correctly because they exist physically, but it amounts to above 100 metres of track in a dozen small sections, plus a cutting underneath Royak parade and an old station building that is now a community centre). The actual align of the rail line is also out by about 30 meters at least - it's too far south on OSM to be accurate Just because is existed once in a time past doesn't mean we should map it. Parts of the Deepdene rail spur still exist (some cuttings and the like), but there's no rails, and it has been mostly built over. Ditto the Rosstown railway http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosstown_Railway (Elsternwick to Oakleigh) It's not a disused railway where the infrastucture is still there. It's a bike path, the lines have been pulled up, the stations torn down, the overhead gantry towers removed... It's just a slippery slope... immediately north of the rail line in the link below is Holden St. It used to have a tram line on it, with a curious little dogleg at the end onto St Georges Road. That was also 40 years ago. There's not much left now, but there are a few traces if you know what you are looking for (old overhead cable mounts etc). But I hardly think it needs to be mapped. Matt On 25/11/2012 9:28 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: Hi, I'm pretty sure we've reached consensus in the past that if there is absolutely no evidence of it on the ground - no tunnels - no cuttings - no tracks. In other words there was a railway line, but now it is a shopping mall, then it doesn't get mapped. We don't maintain layers of history in OSM right now. If there is evidence still on the ground, then we have tags for that. What is the source for the data that is there, if there is no evidence on the ground? Where was it copied from? Ian. On 25 November 2012 17:15, Matt White mattwh...@iinet.net.au mailto:mattwh...@iinet.net.au wrote: A question for the list regarding historical/disused rail lines. The old inner circle rail line in Melbourne is mapped in OSM, and I'm unconvinced of it being a good thing. Here's a little bit of it that I can talk about with some local knowledge of: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-37.780512lon=144.982887zoom=18layers=M Given that there is pretty much no trace of the rail line left, why are we mapping it? It was on the ground 30 years ago, but it certainly isn't now. (That said, there are some small pieces of the track remaining - where it crosses Rae St and Brunswick St Nth, two or three 15 metre sections + a set of points just north of the end of Birkenhead St (including what appears to be an old rail weighbridge), and a short three metre section in Edinburgh Gardens, and the old North Carlton station building is still there) If there are no complaints, I'm going to remove it. It's historical, and appears on old maps, but does not exist today. Matt ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] NSW Alphanumeric routes
On 04/11/2012, at 10:13 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: I also noticed on the RTA site a while back, they were saying that they were trying to work with map and data providers to provide timely and accurate updates. It certainly may be worthwhile sending them an email to see if we can take advantage of that, especially if we can get a timetable for the coverplate removal. Has anyone else contacted the RTA about this yet? If not, I've just got back from my far-north Queensland trip so I now have time to do this (in between mapping from the trip!). Mark P. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines (Ian Steer)
://lists.openstr eetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/attachments/20121125/494bb b7f/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:35:36 +1100 From: Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com To: Matt White mattwh...@iinet.com.au Cc: talk-au talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Tagging dirt and 4x4 roads - new approach Message-ID: CA+z=q=s6dcngcu6m5etswhxgujoghoxl1fm-bch-t-wweal...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 * Unpaved roads are difficult to really classify the surface in terms of anything other than dirt/sand/rock. The surface state changes over time from smooth immediately after grading, to possibly deep ruts/corrugations/mud after rain and wear. In this case, my personal opinion would be to use some sort of tag like surface condition (options being something like: maintained | uneven | degraded | corrugated | rocky | rutted | deep_rutted, but even those change immediately after track maintenance), with perhaps a best/worst case tag or similar One thought that occurs here would be to tag the *maintenance* of a track rather than its *current state*. Some tracks are essentially never maintained, while others are graded frequently. That, combined with the season that you're travelling (eg, late summer vs early spring) might be enough to make an informed decision. * Overall, it seems like Australia has both the special conditions requiring some extensions to the current 4WD/dirt road mapping data and the active mapping community to back it up. I don't see why we shouldn' agree on a handful of tagging rules for the AU conditions on this list and use them (assuming that they are well thought out etc). Document them nicely so the rest of the world can take them up, and make the rendering changes etc ourselves (how hard can a casing change be in the renderer? If we can do it an submit it to the trac system...) AFAIK the major issue with rendering changes is resources to implement them. So, if someone writes the code to do it, much greater chance of it happening. Steve -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/attachments/20121125/c2a8a 2a4/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 4 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:07:37 +1100 From: David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net To: talk-au talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Tagging dirt and 4x4 roads - new approach Message-ID: 1353838057.4071.47.camel@Davo-LT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 20:35 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: One thought that occurs here would be to tag the *maintenance* of a track rather than its *current state*. Yep, that would be useful info indeed. Not sure how 'collectible' it would be though. The (dirt) road that I live on is graded reasonably frequently but I could not tell you how many times per year or when it was last done. And I live on that road ! AFAIK the major issue with rendering changes is resources to implement them. So, if someone writes the code to do it, much greater chance of it happening. Maybe, maybe not. The actual changes required are not that extensive really. I have built a mapnik and pgsql system on my laptop using the OSM config files. Its trivial to include new tags into the rendering database. (Although unfortunately, 4wd_only has some technical issues.) Getting Mapnik to then render them is more a matter of agreeing on how to do it than actually doing it IMHO. Sadly, our desired dashed casing is already used for tunnels, but possibly a different colour will work, or dashed infill ? But importantly, we can copy, in part, how its done for a tunnel. Issue really is these guys will have some pretty heavy change controls in place. And there will be some pressure to not add anything unless its really proved essential, every extra bit of processing slows each refresh. So, we need a really good case rather than clever coding I'm afraid. David -- Message: 5 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:28:04 +1100 From: Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com To: Matt White mattwh...@iinet.net.au Cc: OSM Australian Talk List talk-au@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines Message-ID: calda4ykasoulgcgfhybcxti0qxwnwqpb2xj_wjoo6b8ceaj...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi, I'm pretty sure we've reached consensus in the past that if there is absolutely no evidence of it on the ground - no tunnels - no cuttings - no tracks. In other words there was a railway line, but now it is a shopping mall, then it doesn't get mapped. We don't maintain layers of history in OSM right now. If there is evidence still on the ground, then we have tags for that. What is the source
Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure we've reached consensus in the past that if there is absolutely no evidence of it on the ground - no tunnels - no cuttings - no tracks. In other words there was a railway line, but now it is a shopping mall, then it doesn't get mapped. We don't maintain layers of history in OSM right now. Here's what the wiki says: Abandoned - The track has been removed and the line may have been reused or left to decay but is still clearly visible, either from the replacement infrastructure, or purely from a line of trees around an original cutting or embankment. Use railwayhttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:railway =abandoned https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dabandoned. Where it has been reused as a cycle path then add highwayhttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway =cycleway https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway For the case of the Inner Circle line, there is ample evidence: - some track, buildings etc - large sections of reserved land (according to our map, the Linear Park Reserve) - a bike path (the Inner Circle Rail Trail): https://www.railtrails.org.au/trail?view=trailid=133 I agree that where a rail line has been completely removed and sold off, and built over, the story is a bit different. But in this case, great effort has been expended to retain it as a feature of the landscape: hence the park, bike path, etc. Its presence lives on much more than some abstract representation on a map. It's completely plausible that people would want to follow the old train line on the map - in a way that wouldn't be the case if it had been built over by houses or shopping malls. There are other abandoned railways that perhaps shouldn't be mapped, but the case is pretty good for this one. Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Tagging dirt and 4x4 roads - new approach
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 9:07 PM, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.netwrote: Issue really is these guys will have some pretty heavy change controls in place. And there will be some pressure to not add anything unless its really proved essential, every extra bit of processing slows each refresh. So, we need a really good case rather than clever coding I'm afraid. Thanks, I stand corrected. Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:15:59 +1100 Matt White mattwh...@iinet.net.au wrote: A question for the list regarding historical/disused rail lines. The old inner circle rail line in Melbourne is mapped in OSM, and I'm unconvinced of it being a good thing. Here's a little bit of it that I can talk about with some local knowledge of: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-37.780512lon=144.982887zoom=18layers=M Given that there is pretty much no trace of the rail line left, why are we mapping it? It was on the ground 30 years ago, but it certainly isn't now. (That said, there are some small pieces of the track remaining - where it crosses Rae St and Brunswick St Nth, two or three 15 metre sections + a set of points just north of the end of Birkenhead St (including what appears to be an old rail weighbridge), and a short three metre section in Edinburgh Gardens, and the old North Carlton station building is still there) If there are no complaints, I'm going to remove it. It's historical, and appears on old maps, but does not exist today. Matt I'm in two minds about removing 'historical' data. Yes, objects no longer visible on the ground shouldn't be rendered on the map. BUT, by default, OSM has become a source for mappers doing more than mere street maps and the loss of historical data would be a serious setback. mick ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 17:15:59 +1100 Matt White mattwh...@iinet.net.au wrote: A question for the list regarding historical/disused rail lines. The old inner circle rail line in Melbourne is mapped in OSM, and I'm unconvinced of it being a good thing. Here's a little bit of it that I can talk about with some local knowledge of: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-37.780512lon=144.982887zoom=18layers=M Given that there is pretty much no trace of the rail line left, why are we mapping it? It was on the ground 30 years ago, but it certainly isn't now. (That said, there are some small pieces of the track remaining - where it crosses Rae St and Brunswick St Nth, two or three 15 metre sections + a set of points just north of the end of Birkenhead St (including what appears to be an old rail weighbridge), and a short three metre section in Edinburgh Gardens, and the old North Carlton station building is still there) If there are no complaints, I'm going to remove it. It's historical, and appears on old maps, but does not exist today. Matt I'm in two minds about removing 'historical' data. Yes, objects no longer visible on the ground shouldn't be rendered on the map. BUT, by default, OSM has become a source for mappers doing more than mere street maps and the loss of historical data would be a serious setback. mick ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines
On 26/11/2012 10:38 AM, mick wrote: I'm in two minds about removing 'historical' data. Yes, objects no longer visible on the ground shouldn't be rendered on the map. I've been following this discussion with interest. We do mark and should mark administrative boundaries which are not visible on the ground. Can the logic for these boundaries which be usefully extended to historical data? Alex ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines
On 26 November 2012 12:36, Alex Sims a...@softgrow.com wrote: I've been following this discussion with interest. We do mark and should mark administrative boundaries which are not visible on the ground. Can the logic for these boundaries which be usefully extended to historical data? I don't think so. Keeping historical data in OSM is going to require a more complex model. Maybe a separate project, maybe layers, maybe something else. There is a mailing list and a wiki page set up to gather ideas.. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/historic There are two main aspects to consider here. Firstly, how you map that what no longer exists? Secondly, how you track changes made to OSM, so you can capture history within the OSM changesets. The first one we have plenty of time. The second we need right now, every addition I make it is impossible to tell whether I'm adding a new feature that didn't exist on the ground before, or just filling in a feature that has always existed but wasn't mapped. And every feature I remove, it is impossible to tell if I'm removing it before it is wrong, or removing it because it has been demolished. So, we're actually losing information as we go. Ian. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines
From: Alex Sims [mailto:a...@softgrow.com] Subject: Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines On 26/11/2012 10:38 AM, mick wrote: I'm in two minds about removing 'historical' data. Yes, objects no longer visible on the ground shouldn't be rendered on the map. I've been following this discussion with interest. We do mark and should mark administrative boundaries which are not visible on the ground. Can the logic for these boundaries which be usefully extended to historical data? The subject of historical rail lines and historical roads came up on the talk-us@ mailing list relatively recently. As always, there were multiple views. The result of the discussion was that the general view is that historic information only belongs in OSM when there is some trace on the ground. As a practical matter, historic roads are not generally mapped in OSM. Whenever a road is physically realigned and the new alignment mapped in OSM the old alignment is not saved as a separate way. If I survey the area I only look at how it looks now so I don't know if the old alignment in the database is because it was aligned that way in the past or because the data was inaccurate. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:06:27 +1030 Alex Sims a...@softgrow.com wrote: On 26/11/2012 10:38 AM, mick wrote: I'm in two minds about removing 'historical' data. Yes, objects no longer visible on the ground shouldn't be rendered on the map. I've been following this discussion with interest. We do mark and should mark administrative boundaries which are not visible on the ground. Can the logic for these boundaries which be usefully extended to historical data? Alex I'd forgotten about virtual Objects like administrative boundaries. They are made visible by the objects and vectors that define them, eg. trees, buildings, hills, roads and watercourses. Yes, Boundaries are essential and underlying historical objects that illustrate their logical basis should be available, even if the are not rendered. mick ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Historical rail lines
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:18:30 +1100 Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 November 2012 12:36, Alex Sims a...@softgrow.com wrote: I don't think so. Keeping historical data in OSM is going to require a more complex model. Maybe a separate project, maybe layers, maybe something else. There is a mailing list and a wiki page set up to gather ideas.. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/historic Thanks for the heads-up on the historical list, somehow I missed its birth notice. There are two main aspects to consider here. Firstly, how you map that what no longer exists? Most of my mapping interests relate to historical mapping, English parishes, Civil and Church, for my family history. Studying the Roman occupation of Britain, etc. My usual methodology is to start with available, free to use, current maps; For UK OS Open Data, for Aust. Geoscience Australia TOPO250K series and for both OSM subsets; And clean them up. Next, grab what I can find of earlier maps, georeference and trace them and then pull them into shape, I always seem to got plenty of distortion. When the map layers are as clean as I can get them, I overlay them and copy the required details onto a fresh layer and work-up suitable tagging. Secondly, how you track changes made to OSM, so you can capture history within the OSM changesets. The first one we have plenty of time. The second we need right now, every addition I make it is impossible to tell whether I'm adding a new feature that didn't exist on the ground before, or just filling in a feature that has always existed but wasn't mapped. And every feature I remove, it is impossible to tell if I'm removing it before it is wrong, or removing it because it has been demolished. So, we're actually losing information as we go. I fear this can only be successfully done on the micro scale unless the tagging guidelines can be tightened. The free and easy approach to tagging makes outside the box application of the data a largely manual job. I'm sure this is far from insurmountable, I just can't get my head around it. mick ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [Talk-br] Oficina de mapas começa em um instante
Obrigado a vocês por participar. Foi bem legal fazer o webcast, quero fazer mais vezes. Não consegui abrir o link, estará correto? Vitor George mapaslivres.org twitter.com/mapaslivres 2012/11/24 Arlete Meneguette arletemenegue...@gmail.com Vitor Parabéns pela Oficina, gostei muito de participar e aprender mais. Tomei a liberdade de organizar um álbum no Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.3689978379628.2124871.1580298438type=1 Por favor, dê uma olhada nos textos descritivos de cada imagem, pois posso ter cometido algum equívoco. Um abraço e até a próxima oportunidade. Arlete 2012/11/24 Vitor George vitor.geo...@gmail.com Olá pessoal, Em 15 minutos começam as oficinas de mapas para o Desarrollando America Latina: http://www.mapaslivres.org/2012/11/11/oficina-de-mapas-para-a-dal/ Para participar, acessem este link: http://www.anymeeting.com/mapaslivres1 Vitor George mapaslivres.org twitter.com/mapaslivres ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-de] RFC zum Proposal winter_service
winter_service=yes sollte es prinzipiell nicht geben, finde ich. Man könnte angeben - wann geräumt wird (vielleicht in Kategorien, wenn sich die übernational finden lassen) - was gestreut wird z.B. winter_service=no (Weg/Straße wird bei Schnee nicht geräumt) winter_service=primary_roads (das heisst bei uns fast rund um die Uhr und Salzstreuung) winter_service:hours=6-20 winter_service:material=grit|salt Und dann halt noch Spezifika, z.B. winter_service:bicycle=yes (da macht das yes IMO Sinn, wenn man angeben will, dass dass dieser Radweg oder die Radspur grundsätzlich geräumt wird) Über snowplowing findest du verschiedene Kategorien winter_service vs snowplowing sind zwei verschiedene keys für ein und dasselbe. Bitte NICHT. /al ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Stammtisch / Mailingliste für die Region Anhalt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo zusammen, auf der lokalen Mappingparty Operation Cowboy in Dessau wurde vorgestern ein Stammtisch für die Region Anhalt gegründet. Unter Anhalt ist in diesem Fall die Gegend rund um Lutherstadt Wittenberg, Dessau, Köthen und Bernburg zu verstehen. Andere Sachsen-Anhaltiner sind aber auch willkommen, schließlich sind die Anhaltiner derzeit der einzige Stammtisch in Sachsen-Anhalt. Die dazu gehörige Mailingliste wurde eingerichtet. Wer möchte, kann sich unter http://lists.openstreetmap.de/mailman/listinfo/anhalt eintragen. Die Wikiseite des Stammtischs ist folgende: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dessau-Ro%C3%9Flau Viele Grüße, Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQsgnGAAoJEO7A7cvElxja+EEH/AlL0HkuQ9b5YNISdf1VcMxc 6XNt1SKBCsP0txfsY3P5od+9FZ3l1eBw3R0mOFosBpqwKVWHsiSZdsPc8hq+iOKS WTVTuwU3T6qyETq9SlHp0PoYFFHI5y+w8kLrY/CxlRTpVht+zYpMuxISQnF4fzbI HaTiSUa9rFuwoGRVk3VXND4am6V1ZY0M0b+OBTkVhkj8kewFo6JwEPo8Zti5nIyi vtZC8yQKHcneX6R3dzV8TItNktKM7CDhHIn8MG7fz8o5nN/PkyOuF+cH+3dOrMlR Enkob9tTKPAncvXghLvbGUzB3lf9QaQQRnNIs7VGYjEb+lR6dQNRlHgvwAFgoSU= =VHVD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) mQENBFCZdYIBCADRggutiS7+wtQ3jZ7ocCvDXWtu7HGSLAkv9P7eM08LwVCy91pb sjrivFWIw56X/oAAqdSH6zSNKE83VGMSX2LsJi0bX3VyteKp+TARdBho+Zm0QfBx gm95oxgrorvLcgEgoCr75649Y+FGPnX/m2eKZdRzljGg7iNrPt3qAk9UC686wj+9 Kb3uwED8Yl4Le+SdyDd+PevZWw2sVdFqCR9lRjIEyjk+VHS496FTOAAi87da1/qg KSTnbtUNzsPNSuk+hisjjwvYlv1jnPoRIY0LZGnSJfP5hei6I+xSYG9k2Y5HOXmw 5uaDaIHKDUj/L6kAan63IwdjSR4HDP2psD69ABEBAAG0Q01pY2hhZWwgUmVpY2hl cnQgKE5yLiAxIC8gNi4xMS4yMDEyIC0gMjIuMTEuMjAxMykgPG5ha2FuZXJAZ214 Lm5ldD6JAT4EEwECACgFAlCZdYICGwMFCQH1Gu4GCwkIBwMCBhUIAgkKCwQWAgMB Ah4BAheAAAoJEO7A7cvElxjaGTkIAKMs/ZLDZf8yz5bNbUcs1ICEHY5jFDtxz4Td Ab9TgDhaqo8u/gmbbL1Nxu8rYcD/x7BVKpxyB4n7xR+eAm5NmAYwFVkgg9S69b4K gHfj/8CdxdHOfjgeTfDUWHkcB4C5bK/iD6kAXPSNJyCxxHoPs1GS2kfcz9ubyJ0v BcfLfaO4KV3lCi7SXLNBFYjqy4cM5ieiTfhYhquFbZULAZ5KXb9v2TS9r6e4oQ9Q AVVYuYSw610MCa0WH23SOnCGuMk6Ge0t3CJSpfBKTmTeFbbCId+NDR+SYa0f4pO6 s1R/USDFSDMmokNPS9RD5N7OFBLXwR9qE4K8KhVxLv3pcWS215m5AQ0EUJl1ggEI AOaIOwO+LdDYkp26tIFZYo4Xo28188HqyboaLSGU98ivpxFuaA7tpeB+OD/MbgtC L0UEexmY4IbmquL5uVF4UGd02qUMscOYINF1AokXug+EkK4SSo+VWq1Nm2UWX0Rj SfXVgt59/cKuQeEEdfeaSF4CKKWWLhOm1RB/kIUzCTWq6K2TZZEo3oX8wIJ3LUPZ nMsCk3+1v7H2Dj0KZqcLjTWaZgOeBl2o1prinE2Z6+0e+9qkAnYqG3r2SXzwz700 0ffDjVpQryOZliCK1bjtm4jjnnsgPAGtia9BGkLR1aqzMC/dFyVdB0IUqIXayFiY UudfaW3Z8zzdUrauCkcTDqUAEQEAAYkBJQQYAQIADwUCUJl1ggIbDAUJAfUa7gAK CRDuwO3LxJcY2o8WCACfkc3Z3ZsRziA94PmHyoNlCJt5Av5+93iM/utuZ1Yn3YJT l64hk5twOQNfsexJKD4W2vpYI+RkT5/un4oL6unbflZMXGbk6l+UnFSqlzPc9dpy l5V7GL7K32XX6U/C1qXcq472QpAN+k+pf51DXWQZZeXeSst2o90jYBF8qWhtXhky 9s5SC8Phy9jgdcqsRB3tuKcK7M+NqP6kObo1jhtemrpBxsbdH8BPUw7euEPdB3wg rCmHOiVcerPZ8rMifhlz8cxG8oFaVWcsxxI+U6XDT9+IL9VxrlzQ3D5UDBGHSft+ Vd7CEREDAbBiGGoIN0A6oAk0S6tg4zLeJ/++uEfc =WNlY -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Wie kontaktiert man nicht existierende Benutzer?
Hallo, kurze Zusammenfassung: Also der Nutzer Joachim_444 wurde gelöscht, daher gibt es keine Nutzerseite mehr. Der Nutzername wird jetzt vom System als user_863632 angezeigt, was aber kein richtiger Nutzername ist, sondern eben nur der Anzeigename. Daher gibt es auch keine Nutzerseite für user_863632. Und um auf meine Frage im Betreff zurückzukommen: Kontakt ist ausgeschlossen. Ich war erst etwas sauer, weil es jetzt auch keine Übersicht der Changesets mehr gibt. Die wolle ich mir ansehen um einschätzen zu können, ob ich alle zweifelhaften Bearbeitungen des Nutzers überprüfen muss oder ob ich bedenkenlos reverten kann. Aber zum Glück gibt es Pascal seine Seite ([4]), und bei den Changesets wird ein Link auf den nächsten und vorherigen Changeset des Nutzers angezeigt. So kann man sich durchhangeln. Den Bearbeitungen nach würde ich auf Anfänger tippen. Sieht man z.B. schön an schiefen Häusern (die vorher mal rechtwinklig waren). So langsam verstehe ich auch warum schärfere Regeln gerade für Anfänger gefordert werden. Es geht schon viel Zeit für solche Nachforschungen wie dieser hier und dem Wiederherstellen der Daten drauf. Dazu wird noch Spezialwissen benötigt, daher vielen Dank an Steffen für den richtigen Nutzernamen. Danke Holger [4] http://hdyc.neis-one.org/?Joachim_444 Am 24.11.2012 20:48, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 24. November 2012 15:28 schrieb Steffen Wolf s...@gmx.de: Der Nutzer hat sich umbenannt. In den Extrakten der Geofabrik ist er noch als Joachim_444 aufgefuehrt. Nicht dass das weiterhelfe, da kommt die gleiche Meldung. Du kannst hoffen, dass er sich wieder einen richtigen Namen zulegt, oder dass die Webseite umgestaltet wird, so dass auch diese numerischen Nutzer abrufbar werden. Sie werden ja auch so angezeigt. der kommt nicht wieder, jedenfalls nicht unter der Nummer. Wenn der Account gelöscht wurde, dann wird der Username auf die Usernummer gesetzt. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Broken Turn Relations
Hallo, hier ist ein Update von Broken Turn Relations, wie sie von Navits maptool berichtet werden: http://bokomoko.de/~rd/broken_turn_relations_121125.log Es ist leider noch ein bug in maptool, der ein paar falsche Warnungen generiert: http://trac.navit-project.org/ticket/1076 Gruß Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch http://bokomoko.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Broken Turn Relations
Hallo Rainer, Am Sonntag, 25. November 2012, 18:25:58 schrieb Rainer Dorsch: hier ist ein Update von Broken Turn Relations, wie sie von Navits maptool berichtet werden: http://bokomoko.de/~rd/broken_turn_relations_121125.log OSM Warning: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2545313 turn restriction: to member not found Was ist die Bedeutung der Fehlermeldung hier genau? Die Relation sieht einwandfrei aus (und das schon seit dem 1. November). Eckhart ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Broken Turn Relations
Hallo, Deine Liste habe ich in unserem Wiki ergänzt [1], damit jeder seine korrigierten Restrictions dort abhaken kann. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Relation:restriction/Fehlerhafte_Abbiegebeschr%C3%A4nkungen Grüße, Franz ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Broken Turn Relations
Danke, Franz. Rainer Am Sunday 25 November 2012 schrieb Franz vonGordon: Hallo, Deine Liste habe ich in unserem Wiki ergänzt [1], damit jeder seine korrigierten Restrictions dort abhaken kann. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Relation:restriction/Fehlerhafte_Abbi egebeschr%C3%A4nkungen Grüße, Franz ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de -- Rainer Dorsch http://bokomoko.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Broken Turn Relations
Hallo Eckhart, guter Punkt, da muss ich selbst nachfragen. Gruß Rainer Am Sunday 25 November 2012 schrieb Eckhart Wörner: Hallo Rainer, Am Sonntag, 25. November 2012, 18:25:58 schrieb Rainer Dorsch: hier ist ein Update von Broken Turn Relations, wie sie von Navits maptool berichtet werden: http://bokomoko.de/~rd/broken_turn_relations_121125.log OSM Warning: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2545313 turn restriction: to member not found Was ist die Bedeutung der Fehlermeldung hier genau? Die Relation sieht einwandfrei aus (und das schon seit dem 1. November). Eckhart ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de -- Rainer Dorsch Lärchenstr. 6 D-72135 Dettenhausen 07157-734133 email: rdor...@web.de jabber: rdor...@jabber.org GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ -- Rainer Dorsch http://bokomoko.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-it] Toponomi quando non ci sono i cartelli
Vale sempre il consiglio di guardare nei documenti del comune e loro allegati (magari pubblicati in rete): delibere comunali, modifiche al piano regolatore, ecc sono leggi e non sono coperte da copyright. Saluti Fabrizio Il giorno 24 novembre 2012 12:12, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2012/11/22 Salemme Guido salemme.gu...@email.it: qui nella mia città sono segnate anche le più piccole strade ma nel resto della provincia di Latina molti comuni (soprattutto i più piccoli) sono molto carenti in questo, per non parlare della provincia di Frosinone dove trovare un cartello che indica un nome di una strada è un miraggio :-( confermo pienamente, ho fatto anch'io dei rilievi in provincia di Frosinone questo estate e spesso non c'era traccia dei nomi, alle volte anche perchè tempo fa li avevano scritti sui muri e ad oggi spesso risultavano illeggibili. Secondome è buono l'approccio di chiedere alla gente, anche se forse raramente si sbagliano (e prima o poi qualcuno si accorgerà e correggerà). In certi casi potrebbe anche essere che la gente usa un altro nome di quello ufficiale (e quindi sarebbe interessante mettere il nome locale nella chiave loc_name). ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Errors in changeset
Ciao a tutti, un utente estero mi fa notare che c'e' un utente milanese, texano95, che nel suo primo edit ha cancellato dei percorsi in zona Baggio a Milano [1]. Qualcuno di zona puo' dare un occhio per favore? Saluti Fabrizio Hi, In the region of Milano this changeset seems te be full of errors : http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/texano95/edits Could you have a look ? Kind regards, Georges http://www.openstreetmap.org/message/reply/316089 [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14004620 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ferrovie: situazione stazioni e routing
Il 24/11/2012 19:53, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: 2012/11/24 Any Fileanysomef...@gmail.com: 2012/11/24 Martin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com: A proposito: come faccio a trovare una pagina wikipedia cancellata? Ho tempo fa messo dei link da OSM e ultimamente mi sono accorto che uno dei articoli non esisteva più in wikipedia. ma cosa intendi con trovare una pagina wikipedia cancellata? Se vuoi sapere se la pagina esiste ancora, l'unico metodo è quello di accedere alla pagina. si, quello è chiaro, volevo sapere chi ha cancellato la pagina e quando, e se ha cancellato anche altre pagine simili, e avrei voluto anche vedere il contenuto della pagina. Se ti ricordi il titolo della voce vai su Speciale:Registri/delete e mettilo su Azione effettuata su, così ti viene fuori solo la voce che ti interessa e puoi vedere il motivo per cui è stata cancellata. Per quanto riguarda il chi: le voci possono cancellarle solo i sysop, ma non è detto che sia stato il sysop a segnalare che la pagina era da cancellare o a proporla per la cancellazione. Se si è trattato di una cancellazione immediata (su Speciale:Registri/delete le riconosci subito perché nella motivazione c'è il numero del criterio, tipo C1, C2 e così via) non riuscirai a scoprire chi è stato a segnalare la cancellazione (a meno che non chiedi ad un sysop), se invece si è trattato di una cancellazione consensuale (nel registro la motivazione è come da votazione...) o semplificata (nel registro la motivazione è come da procedura...) allora ti basta guardare su Wikipedia:Pagine da cancellare/titolo e lì potrai vedere chi ha proposto la cancellazione ed i motivi. ciao Paolo M ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] consiglio
Vorrei il vostro parere sui TAG che ritenete più opportuni per referenziare la restrizione di accesso al punto e/o via di varco accesso a ZTL (con telecamera di monitoraggio entrate). Sono già presenti i tag identificativi della strada e la relation enforcement sul dispositivo di controllo. Quello che mi lascia nel dubbio è il tag di restrizione di accesso: magari: access=official? Ciao Beppe ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] consiglio
Dipende dalla ZTL che devi mappare. Dovresti dare un'occhiata all'ordinanza o almeno ai segnali stradali (anche se spesso sono ambigui). A Padova ho optato, dopo una discussione qui in lista, per il tagging riportato su: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Padova#Zona_a_Traffico_Limitato ciao Tiziano 2012/11/25 Giuseppe Amici giuseppeam...@virgilio.it Vorrei il vostro parere sui TAG che ritenete più opportuni per referenziare la restrizione di accesso al punto e/o via di varco accesso a ZTL (con telecamera di monitoraggio entrate). ** ** Sono già presenti i tag identificativi della strada e la relation enforcement sul dispositivo di controllo. ** ** Quello che mi lascia nel dubbio è il tag di restrizione di accesso: magari: access=official? ** ** Ciao Beppe ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ferrovie: situazione stazioni e routing
Il 24/11/2012 14:58, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: il landuse=railway vale per tutta l'area della ferrovia, anche fuori la stazione (tutti binari e zone limitrofe, aree di servizio, smistamento, ecc.) Si. Ed è per questo che nell'area della stazione forse è meglio aggiungere railway=station a landuse=railway. Del resto la stazione comprende tutto non solo il locale viaggiatori ed i binari. no, il problema è che il numero descrive il binario, su ogni platform al solito hai 2 binari (numeri). Metto entrambi i numeri sul ref separati dal ; (per primo metto quello più vicino all'edificio stazione, ovvero il numero più basso). Il numero del binario è poi di facile intuizione osservando gli altri platform e la posizione dell'edificio stazione. Eventualmente si potrebbe pensare ad un ref:left=* e ref:right=* ciao Paolo M ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Orario distributori di benzina
Ciao a tutti. Ha senso inserire nei tag di un distributore di benzina l'orario di apertura 24/7 , considerando che ora praticamente tutti i distributori hanno il servizio self service quando non c'è il gestore? Grazie. -- Gianluca Boero ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Trafori autostradali
Ho notato che i 3 trafori autostradali del Monte Bianco, del Gran San Bernardo e del Frejus sono tutti classificati in modo diverso: rispettivamente trunk, primary e motorway. Il traforo del Gran San Bernardo ha ref=21 (non so se è la classificazione svizzera, quella italiana è T2) e mancano le barriere di pedaggio. Quello del Monte Bianco ha ref=N 205,T1 (separato da virgola; non dovrebbe essere separato da punto e virgola?) e solo per il tunnel stesso e non per le strade di accesso. Il tunnel del Frejus ha ref=T4 solo nel tunnel; tra l'inizio del tunnel e la barriera di pedaggio è classificato come A32; manca la classificazione francese. All'estero il traforo del S. Gottardo è trunk, S. Bernardino è trunk, l'Arlberg è trunk. Riusciamo a standardizzare in trunk visto che questi trafori non hanno carreggiate separate per le due direzioni di marcia, e non hanno almeno due corsie di marcia per ogni carreggiata (che sono richiesti per essere motorway)? Ciao, Andrea. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Josm preset per indirizzi
Ciao a tutti, avrei bisogno su Vespucci di un preset che mi preinserisca sui nodi sia il tag addr:housenumber che addr:street . Come si fa? O quanto meno... come si fa a creare un preset del genere su Josm? Stefano Fraccaro ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Josm preset per indirizzi
Il 25/11/2012 15:21, stefano.fracc...@libero.it ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, avrei bisogno su Vespucci di un preset che mi preinserisca sui nodi sia il tag addr:housenumber che addr:street . Come si fa? O quanto meno... come si fa a creare un preset del genere su Josm? Io ce l'ho (in josm) sotto preimpostazioni/annotazioni/indirizzi, ma non ricordo se l'ho attivato come plugin o è di default. Esiste comunque anche un plugin per taggare i numeri civici e un altro per fare il check di quelli incompleti Ciao. Maurizio ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] consiglio
2012/11/25 Giuseppe Amici giuseppeam...@virgilio.it: Quello che mi lascia nel dubbio è il tag di restrizione di accesso: magari: access=official? No, quel tag (peraltro molto discusso) si applica solo a casi del tipo foot=official, bicycle=official oppure horse=official Ciao, Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Openstreetmap.it, forum
Ciao, segnalo alcuni typo nella FAQ:** - Sezione Come posso aiutare? La maggior parte della communità - comunità Per il progetto anche l’aiuto piccolo è molto prezioso: Sono ben mappate - s in minuscolo trovi dei piccoli errori che potresti corregere? - correggere Forse lavori adirittura alle poste e conosci tanti numeri civici a mente?-addirittura c’è tanto da fare – al database centrale, - dal database ai software per editing, al software che renderizza le mappe - ai software per editing e rendering delle mappe - Sezione Che cos’è un “Mapping Weekend” o una “Mapping Party”? I Mapping Parties - non sono sicuro ma il plurale mi sembra sbagliato. In italiano converrebbe I Mapping Party. sono ideali per connoscere altri mappatori della communità. - conoscere e comunità Ed è anche divertente. - Ed è anche divertente! (diamo un pò di enfasi alla parte del divertimento :) ) - Sezione Cos’è questa storia della licenza? La licenza dice che qualsiasi forma di uso dei dati OpenStreetMap, anche a scopo di lucro / commercialmente, sia consentita, finché i condizioni della licenza vengono rispettate. - è consentita finché le condizioni della licenza vengono rispettate Banche dati derivati possono essere distribuiti soltanto sotto la ODbL - Banche dati derivatE possono essere distribuitE Il link alla traduzione non ufficiale manda a una pagina vuota :/ - Sezione Quante persone partecipano ad OpenStreetMap? turbinosamente - vertiginosamente (meglio?) - Sezione Come si finanzia? I server su cui girano il db - database, meglio non usare abbreviazioni ed altri servizi centrali sono da una parte sponsorizzati - C'è una pagina web con gli sponsor da linkare? e dal’altra - dall' Le utenze dei servers - non c'è il plurale in italiano, usare server. vengono pagate da un università inglese - citiamo l'università? Spero di essere stato utile! Leonardo ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Trafori autostradali
... e non hanno almeno due corsie di marcia per ogni carreggiata (che sono richiesti per essere motorway)? Questo non è un requisito di motorway. Il wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Motorway dice solo che *normalmente *hanno 2+2 corsie. In effetti ci sono pezzi di Autobahn in Germania e in Svizzera che hanno una sola carreggiata a due corsie o due carreggiate a corsia singola. Lo stesso fanno parte della rete di autostrade e sono soggette alle stesse restrizioni di accesso. Quindi anche il traforo del San Gottardo potrebbe/dovrebbe essere un 'motorway'. Sto indagando per quale motivo lo hanno declassato nel 2010 da 'motorway' a 'trunk' Volker Ciao, Andrea. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Orario distributori di benzina
Il 25 novembre 2012 15:07, Gianluca Boero gianlucabo...@alice.it ha scritto: Ciao a tutti. ciao Ha senso inserire nei tag di un distributore di benzina l'orario di apertura 24/7 , considerando che ora praticamente tutti i distributori hanno il servizio self service quando non c'è il gestore? direi di si, anche per distinguere quelli (pochi) che non lo sono. poi c'è questa [0].. Grazie. [0] http://www.netzwolf.info/kartografie/osm/time_domain/map_opening?zoom=12lat=46.08436lon=11.1231layers=B0T -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Trafori autostradali
2012/11/25 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com ... e non hanno almeno due corsie di marcia per ogni carreggiata (che sono richiesti per essere motorway)? Questo non è un requisito di motorway. Il wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Motorway dice solo che *normalmente *hanno 2+2 corsie. In effetti ci sono pezzi di Autobahn in Germania e in Svizzera che hanno una sola carreggiata a due corsie o due carreggiate a corsia singola. Hai ragione. Se hai qualche contatto in Svizzera, puoi verificare la classificazione del Gran San Bernardo? Mi sembra che quella attuale derivi dalla strada primary che la raggiunge. Ciao, Andrea. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Trafori autostradali
2012/11/25 Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com 2012/11/25 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com ... e non hanno almeno due corsie di marcia per ogni carreggiata (che sono richiesti per essere motorway)? Questo non è un requisito di motorway. Il wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Motorway dice solo che *normalmente *hanno 2+2 corsie. In effetti ci sono pezzi di Autobahn in Germania e in Svizzera che hanno una sola carreggiata a due corsie o due carreggiate a corsia singola. Hai ragione. Se hai qualche contatto in Svizzera, puoi verificare la classificazione del Gran San Bernardo? Mi sembra che quella attuale derivi dalla strada primary che la raggiunge. Intendevo il ref... sorry. Andrea. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Orario distributori di benzina
Il 25/11/2012 18:03, Luca Delucchi ha scritto: direi di si, anche per distinguere quelli (pochi) che non lo sono. poi c'è questa [0].. Grazie. [0] http://www.netzwolf.info/kartografie/osm/time_domain/map_opening?zoom=12lat=46.08436lon=11.1231layers=B0T Che bel servizio. A occhio si direbbe che i tag indicanti gli orari non sono assolutamente utilizzati in Italia. Me lo memorizzo. Ogni quanto viene aggiornato? Bisogna considerare molto l'utilizzo di questo tag. -- Gianluca Boero ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Openstreetmap.it, forum
Il 25 novembre 2012 17:21, Leonardo kinetocor...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ciao, ciao segnalo alcuni typo nella FAQ: grazie! - Sezione Come posso aiutare? La maggior parte della communità - comunità Per il progetto anche l’aiuto piccolo è molto prezioso: Sono ben mappate - s in minuscolo trovi dei piccoli errori che potresti corregere? - correggere Forse lavori adirittura alle poste e conosci tanti numeri civici a mente?-addirittura c’è tanto da fare – al database centrale, - dal database ai software per editing, al software che renderizza le mappe - ai software per editing e rendering delle mappe - Sezione Che cos’è un “Mapping Weekend” o una “Mapping Party”? I Mapping Parties - non sono sicuro ma il plurale mi sembra sbagliato. In italiano converrebbe I Mapping Party. sono ideali per connoscere altri mappatori della communità. - conoscere e comunità Ed è anche divertente. - Ed è anche divertente! (diamo un pò di enfasi alla parte del divertimento :) ) - Sezione Cos’è questa storia della licenza? La licenza dice che qualsiasi forma di uso dei dati OpenStreetMap, anche a scopo di lucro / commercialmente, sia consentita, finché i condizioni della licenza vengono rispettate. - è consentita finché le condizioni della licenza vengono rispettate Banche dati derivati possono essere distribuiti soltanto sotto la ODbL - Banche dati derivatE possono essere distribuitE Il link alla traduzione non ufficiale manda a una pagina vuota :/ - Sezione Quante persone partecipano ad OpenStreetMap? turbinosamente - vertiginosamente (meglio?) - Sezione Come si finanzia? I server su cui girano il db - database, meglio non usare abbreviazioni ed altri servizi centrali sono da una parte sponsorizzati - C'è una pagina web con gli sponsor da linkare? e dal’altra - dall' Le utenze dei servers - non c'è il plurale in italiano, usare server. vengono pagate da un università inglese - citiamo l'università? dovrei aver risolto tutti i problemi segnalati, potresti comunque controllare? Spero di essere stato utile! utilissimo grazie mille! se vedi altri problemi in altre pagine segnala pure Leonardo -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Orario distributori di benzina
Il 25 novembre 2012 18:15, Gianluca Boero gianlucabo...@alice.it ha scritto: Che bel servizio. A occhio si direbbe che i tag indicanti gli orari non sono assolutamente utilizzati in Italia. una volta mi ricordo che ne visualizzava molti di più, a me sembra che ne manchino... Me lo memorizzo. Ogni quanto viene aggiornato? non lo so Bisogna considerare molto l'utilizzo di questo tag. si si -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/ www.lucadelu.org ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Orario distributori di benzina
Il 25 novembre 2012 18:15, Gianluca Boero ha scritto: Me lo memorizzo. Ogni quanto viene aggiornato? io vedolescritte in inglese, ma c'è anche questo che è tradotto in italiano, aggiornato oggi alle 0.30 http://www.openlinkmap.org/ Bisogna considerare molto l'utilizzo di questo tag. ci vorrebbe un'interfaccia semplificata per inserire opening_hours perché la sintassi non è facile -- Daniele Forsi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Trafori autostradali
Il passo del Gran San Bernardo è - secondo me correttamente - inserito come 'primary'. Il San Bernardino dovrebbe essere 'trunk' - vedi https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autostrada_A13_%28Svizzera%29 Volker 2012/11/25 Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com 2012/11/25 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com ... e non hanno almeno due corsie di marcia per ogni carreggiata (che sono richiesti per essere motorway)? Questo non è un requisito di motorway. Il wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Motorway dice solo che *normalmente *hanno 2+2 corsie. In effetti ci sono pezzi di Autobahn in Germania e in Svizzera che hanno una sola carreggiata a due corsie o due carreggiate a corsia singola. Hai ragione. Se hai qualche contatto in Svizzera, puoi verificare la classificazione del Gran San Bernardo? Mi sembra che quella attuale derivi dalla strada primary che la raggiunge. Ciao, Andrea. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Orario distributori di benzina
Il giorno 25/nov/2012 18:41, Daniele Forsi dfo...@gmail.com ha scritto: ci vorrebbe un'interfaccia semplificata per inserire opening_hours perché la sintassi non è facile C'è già un plugin per JOSM :) ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Trafori autostradali
2012/11/25 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com Il passo del Gran San Bernardo è - secondo me correttamente - inserito come 'primary'. Perché? Quale differenza c'è rispetto agli altri? Ciao, Andrea. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Trafori autostradali
Il Gran San Bernardo non è autostrada. 2012/11/25 Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com 2012/11/25 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com Il passo del Gran San Bernardo è - secondo me correttamente - inserito come 'primary'. Perché? Quale differenza c'è rispetto agli altri? Ciao, Andrea. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Trafori autostradali
2012/11/25 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com: ... e non hanno almeno due corsie di marcia per ogni carreggiata (che sono richiesti per essere motorway)? Questo non è un requisito di motorway. Il wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Motorway dice solo che normalmente hanno 2+2 corsie. In effetti ci sono pezzi di Autobahn in Germania e in Svizzera che hanno una sola carreggiata a due corsie o due carreggiate a corsia singola. Lo stesso fanno parte della rete di autostrade e sono soggette alle stesse restrizioni di accesso. Quindi anche il traforo del San Gottardo potrebbe/dovrebbe essere un 'motorway'. Sto indagando per quale motivo lo hanno declassato nel 2010 da 'motorway' a 'trunk' +1, il quesito per essere motorway è la dedica, quale noi possiamo vedere dalla segnaletica, il motorway comincia/finisce al cartello A verde. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Trafori autostradali
È autostrada come tutti gli altri trafori. Compare nell'elenco delle autostrade, paghi un pedaggio, è in sede separata con rampe di accesso. Ciao, Andrea. On 11/25/12, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote: Il Gran San Bernardo non è autostrada. 2012/11/25 Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com 2012/11/25 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com Il passo del Gran San Bernardo è - secondo me correttamente - inserito come 'primary'. Perché? Quale differenza c'è rispetto agli altri? Ciao, Andrea. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Trafori autostradali
Nei trafori c'è la segnaletica verde ma il ref inizia per T e non per A. Ciao, Andrea. On 11/25/12, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/25 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com: ... e non hanno almeno due corsie di marcia per ogni carreggiata (che sono richiesti per essere motorway)? Questo non è un requisito di motorway. Il wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Motorway dice solo che normalmente hanno 2+2 corsie. In effetti ci sono pezzi di Autobahn in Germania e in Svizzera che hanno una sola carreggiata a due corsie o due carreggiate a corsia singola. Lo stesso fanno parte della rete di autostrade e sono soggette alle stesse restrizioni di accesso. Quindi anche il traforo del San Gottardo potrebbe/dovrebbe essere un 'motorway'. Sto indagando per quale motivo lo hanno declassato nel 2010 da 'motorway' a 'trunk' +1, il quesito per essere motorway è la dedica, quale noi possiamo vedere dalla segnaletica, il motorway comincia/finisce al cartello A verde. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] consiglio
2012/11/25 Giuseppe Amici giuseppeam...@virgilio.it: Vorrei il vostro parere sui TAG che ritenete più opportuni per referenziare la restrizione di accesso al punto e/o via di varco accesso a ZTL (con telecamera di monitoraggio entrate). dipende chi ha permesso, mettrei per quelli che connosco motor_vehicle=private Non dimenticarti ti mappare anche la ztl stessa (probabilmente con un multipoligono): ;-) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boundary%3Dlimited_traffic_zone Quello che mi lascia nel dubbio è il tag di restrizione di accesso: magari: access=official? quello non direbbe dire niente, official si può usare solo con restrizioni di gruppo, per esempio bicicletta, perchè vuole dire che l'accesso è dedicato specialmente a questo tipo, e access è generico quindi non ha senso. Eviterei access come tag, perchè troppo generico (tutti e tutto viene permesso o escluso, ma spesso pedoni, veicoli a motore e biciclette hanno diritti diversi, infatti quando vedo che qualcuno ha messo access ha escluso anche i pedoni, dove nella realtà spesso sono amessi). Distinguerei sopratutto tra vehicle motor_vehicle (compreso in vehicle) bicycle (compreso in vehicle) foot e quando serve anche motorcar, motorcycle, hgv (camion). Il resto, incluso horse, ho visto pocchissime volte in Italia. Se il caso non è molto complesso, uno o due di restrizioni sono sufficienti (per una ztl anche di più, ma non ha molto senso mettere foot=yes, bicycle=yes, horse=yes, motorcar=yes, motorcycle=yes ecc. ad ogni strada come qualcuno fa). ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Venezia
2012/11/25 Paolo Monegato gato.selvad...@gmail.com: natural=bay no, piuttosto creiamo natural=lagoon hm, ci sono già 2 di questo tag, di bay ci sono 27634. Credo di capire che ogni laguna è un bay, ma non ogni bay è una laguna, vero? Se fosse così mettrei un subtag, se invece bay non comprende lagoon, allora mettrei un nuovo tag lagoon. ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Trafori autostradali
On 2012-11-25 at 18:03:34 +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: ... e non hanno almeno due corsie di marcia per ogni carreggiata (che sono richiesti per essere motorway)? Questo non è un requisito di motorway. Il wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Motorway dice solo che *normalmente *hanno 2+2 corsie. In effetti ci sono pezzi di Autobahn in Germania e in Svizzera che hanno una sola carreggiata a due corsie o due carreggiate a corsia singola. In italia è requisito per essere autostrada. Che io sappia lo è anche nel resto d'europa, al massimo ci sono le mezze-autostrade o altri nomi simili, che in certi casi possono non averle (ad esempio so che è così in svizzera). Di solito hanno comunque restrizioni simili a quelle dell'autostrada, così come le hanno le nostre superstrade (strade extraurbane principali) Quindi anche il traforo del San Gottardo potrebbe/dovrebbe essere un 'motorway'. Sto indagando per quale motivo lo hanno declassato nel 2010 da 'motorway' a 'trunk' Che io sappia il gottardo è mezza autostrada, non autostrada. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Trafori autostradali
On 2012-11-25 at 22:11:46 +0100, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote: In italia è requisito per essere autostrada. Che io sappia lo è anche nel resto d'europa, al massimo ci sono le mezze-autostrade o altri nomi simili, che in certi casi possono non averle (ad esempio so che è così in svizzera). e ovviamente mi ricordavo male il nome, che è semiautostrada e non mezza-autostrada https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiautostrada -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-lt] Bingo ortofoto papildymai
Sveiki Dar atsinaujino Bingo ortofoto. Jau turime Panevėžį!, Mažeikius, Skuodą, Šalčininkus. -- Tomas Straupis ___ Talk-lt mailing list Talk-lt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-lt
[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Listed Bdgs map on Mapbox
Hi everyone Well, having worked some more on cleaning and populating the data - guess what? The data is by no means complete or accurate. It's pretty good - probably about 95% complete and 95% accurate. It's just the usual annoying almost perfect but not quite there that we come to expect from government data sources. There are listed buildings missing, listed buildings about 100m from where they should be, out -of -date descriptions of buildings, and listed buildings shown where there are in fact none. So treat with the slight caution the data deserves. I've added listed parks and gardens as green markers , and I'm going to play around with adding blue plaques and public artworks So now there's no excuse as you go about surveying and mapping to taking a camera with you and snapping listed buildings to populate the underlying database.;-) Try not to take portrait shots of tall buildings like churches as currently they get terribly distorted. I'll set up a shared photos folder somewhere so you can upload them. As long as you name them unambiguously I can attach them to the correct record. Regards Brian ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-es] Nueva etiqueta highway=escape
Buenas, En primer lugar, felicidades José Juan por el highway=escape era de cajón que debía estar. Yo ya tengo alguna localizado alguno para meter en el mapa ;) , y por el renderizado yo cogería paciencia, ya saldrá. Sobre los radares Ricardo, te refieres a esto? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dspeed_camera Un saludo ALBERT 2012/11/25 Ricardo ricardosanz1...@gmail.com Es posible alguna etiqueta para radares fijos? Ricardo Sanz Moreno El 24/11/2012, a las 19:29, José Juan Sánchez del Arco jj_sanchez_alme...@live.com escribió: Buenos días, ayer mismo se ha aprobado la nueva etiqueta highway=escape, referente a zonas de frenado de emergencia en carreteras. Ahora quisiera haceros una pregunta al respecto. ¿Cuánto tardará en verse esta nueva característica renderizada en los mapas? ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- *KONFRARE ALBERT* La Konfraria de la Vila del Pingüí de La Palma WEB:http://www.konfraria.org TWITTER: http://twitter.com/La_Konfraria FACEBOOK: http://ca-es.facebook.com/people/Konfraria-Vila-Del-Pingui/11918952076 ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Nueva etiqueta highway=escape
El día 25 de noviembre de 2012 10:36, Ricardo ricardosanz1...@gmail.com escribió: Es posible alguna etiqueta para radares fijos? Aunque ya existe: highway=speed_camera http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt-br:Tag:highway%3Dspeed_camera Habría que proponer: radar=fixed // radar fijo radar=random // radar aleatorio radar=movile // radar móvil ¿En que punto ubicarlo? ¿Vale con el anterior? radar=tunnel //radar túnel radar=traffic_lights //radar en un semáforo radar=time // Un sector en el que se mide el tiempo de recorrido obviamente la velocidad máxima la daria la etiqueta maxspeed= :) -- Roberto Plà http://robertopla.net/ ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Nueva etiqueta highway=escape
Gracias a los 2 por la info. Es verdad, habría que añadir lo que dice Roberto Ricardo Sanz Moreno El 25/11/2012, a las 10:54, Roberto Pla p...@aire.org escribió: El día 25 de noviembre de 2012 10:36, Ricardo ricardosanz1...@gmail.com escribió: Es posible alguna etiqueta para radares fijos? Aunque ya existe: highway=speed_camera http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt-br:Tag:highway%3Dspeed_camera Habría que proponer: radar=fixed // radar fijo radar=random // radar aleatorio radar=movile // radar móvil ¿En que punto ubicarlo? ¿Vale con el anterior? radar=tunnel //radar túnel radar=traffic_lights //radar en un semáforo radar=time // Un sector en el que se mide el tiempo de recorrido obviamente la velocidad máxima la daria la etiqueta maxspeed= :) -- Roberto Plà http://robertopla.net/ ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Nueva etiqueta highway=escape
Móvil en inglés sería mobile con b. El 25 de noviembre de 2012 11:13, Ricardo ricardosanz1...@gmail.comescribió: Gracias a los 2 por la info. Es verdad, habría que añadir lo que dice Roberto Ricardo Sanz Moreno El 25/11/2012, a las 10:54, Roberto Pla p...@aire.org escribió: El día 25 de noviembre de 2012 10:36, Ricardo ricardosanz1...@gmail.com escribió: Es posible alguna etiqueta para radares fijos? Aunque ya existe: highway=speed_camera http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt-br:Tag:highway%3Dspeed_camera Habría que proponer: radar=fixed // radar fijo radar=random // radar aleatorio radar=movile // radar móvil ¿En que punto ubicarlo? ¿Vale con el anterior? radar=tunnel //radar túnel radar=traffic_lights //radar en un semáforo radar=time // Un sector en el que se mide el tiempo de recorrido obviamente la velocidad máxima la daria la etiqueta maxspeed= :) -- Roberto Plà http://robertopla.net/ ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Saludos ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] Nueva etiqueta highway=escape
El día 25 de noviembre de 2012 12:39, David cyme...@gmail.com escribió: Móvil en inglés sería mobile con b. Gracias! es que tengo el corrector en castellano:) y mi 'británico' es de andar por casa. -- Roberto Plà http://robertopla.net/ ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] OpenLayer
Como consejo: evalúa la posibilidad de usar Leaflet en lugar de Openlayers. Un cordial saludo. El 25 de noviembre de 2012 10:15, Manuel Isasa Figueroa manolois...@gmail.com escribió: Muchas gracias Wladimir, ya os contare lo que estoy haciendo, en principio es una aplicación para móviles con phonegap y lo primordial es geolocalizar por eso estoy viendo un poco como utilizar openlayer. -- Clave pública: http://netikerty.puntoabierto.net/Manuel%20Isasa%20Figueroa.asc ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- David Marín Carreño dav...@gmail.com ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] OpenLayer
Claridad, limpieza y rapidez. El 25 de noviembre de 2012 17:05, Jose Alberto Gonzalez von Schmeling joseg...@gmail.com escribió: porque aconsejas utilizar Leaflet, envés de OpenLayers? 2012/11/25 David Marín Carreño dav...@gmail.com Como consejo: evalúa la posibilidad de usar Leaflet en lugar de Openlayers. Un cordial saludo. El 25 de noviembre de 2012 10:15, Manuel Isasa Figueroa manolois...@gmail.com escribió: Muchas gracias Wladimir, ya os contare lo que estoy haciendo, en principio es una aplicación para móviles con phonegap y lo primordial es geolocalizar por eso estoy viendo un poco como utilizar openlayer. -- Clave pública: http://netikerty.puntoabierto.net/Manuel%20Isasa%20Figueroa.asc ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- David Marín Carreño dav...@gmail.com ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Podes encontrarme o comunicarte conmigo en: - *Mi blog*: http://proyectosbeta.net/http://proyectosbeta.blogspot.com/ - *Facebook*: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Proyectos-Beta/113277785412256http://www.facebook.com/jose.gonzalezvonschmeling - *Twitter*: @proyectosbeta http://twitter.com/proyectosbeta ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- David Marín Carreño dav...@gmail.com ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
Re: [Talk-es] OpenLayer
ah ok.. gracias 2012/11/25 David Marín Carreño dav...@gmail.com Claridad, limpieza y rapidez. El 25 de noviembre de 2012 17:05, Jose Alberto Gonzalez von Schmeling joseg...@gmail.com escribió: porque aconsejas utilizar Leaflet, envés de OpenLayers? 2012/11/25 David Marín Carreño dav...@gmail.com Como consejo: evalúa la posibilidad de usar Leaflet en lugar de Openlayers. Un cordial saludo. El 25 de noviembre de 2012 10:15, Manuel Isasa Figueroa manolois...@gmail.com escribió: Muchas gracias Wladimir, ya os contare lo que estoy haciendo, en principio es una aplicación para móviles con phonegap y lo primordial es geolocalizar por eso estoy viendo un poco como utilizar openlayer. -- Clave pública: http://netikerty.puntoabierto.net/Manuel%20Isasa%20Figueroa.asc ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- David Marín Carreño dav...@gmail.com ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Podes encontrarme o comunicarte conmigo en: - *Mi blog*: http://proyectosbeta.net/http://proyectosbeta.blogspot.com/ - *Facebook*: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Proyectos-Beta/113277785412256http://www.facebook.com/jose.gonzalezvonschmeling - *Twitter*: @proyectosbeta http://twitter.com/proyectosbeta ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- David Marín Carreño dav...@gmail.com ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es -- Podes encontrarme o comunicarte conmigo en: - *Mi blog*: http://proyectosbeta.net/http://proyectosbeta.blogspot.com/ - *Facebook*: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Proyectos-Beta/113277785412256http://www.facebook.com/jose.gonzalezvonschmeling - *Twitter*: @proyectosbeta http://twitter.com/proyectosbeta ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-es
[Talk-at] Übersicht der Edits in einem Gebiet
Hi, kennt ihr bequeme Möglichkeiten zu sehen wer wie häufig / wie viel in einem Gebiet editiert hat? Mich würds interessieren wer in meiner Gegend noch so (jetzt gerade) aktiv ist. Ich erinnere mich, dass mal was auf blog.openstreetmap.de gepostet worden ist, hab aber vergessen was das war. LG, Markus ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Übersicht der Edits in einem Gebiet
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 05:34:01PM +0100, Markus Straub wrote: kennt ihr bequeme Möglichkeiten zu sehen wer wie häufig / wie viel in einem Gebiet editiert hat? Mich würds interessieren wer in meiner Gegend noch so (jetzt gerade) aktiv ist. ito world hat sehr nette Visualisierungen: http://www.itoworld.com/static/openstreetmap_tools/osm_mapper.html gruesse, Stephan -- Seid unbequem, seid Sand, nicht Öl im Getriebe der Welt! - Günther Eich ,-. | Stephan Plepelits, | | Technische Universität Wien -Studien Informatik Raumplanung | | Projects: | | openstreetbrowser.org couchsurfing.org tubasis.at bl.mud.at | | Contact:| | Mail: sk...@xover.mud.at Blog: plepe.at | | Twitter: twitter.com/plepe Jabber: sk...@jabber.at | `-' signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Übersicht der Edits in einem Gebiet
Hallo Markus, guckst Du hier: http://zverik.osm.rambler.ru/whodidit/ Lässt sich einstellen vom Zeitraum her, Changeset oder user. Einfach auf Deinen gewünschten Bereich reinzoomen und kurz warten. Funktioniert recht gut. Viel Spass damit, Erwin ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Gewässernetz Tirol
Hallo Simon, habe gerade festgestellt, dass Du unter der Kennung simon04_data_tirol_gv_at mit dem Import begonnen hast, den Inn und die Sill. Wenn Du schon importierst, dann sollten doch ein paar mehr Attribute von tirol.gv.at übernommen werden, so meine Meinung. Ich halte zum Beispiel GEW_ID (T2010R1) zur einwandfreien Identifizierung für sehr wichtig. So gibt es doch einige Bäche und Flüsse mit absolut gleichen Namen. Durch diese ID könnten die Gewässer einwandfrei identifiziert werden, jeder Bach hat eine andere Bezeichnung. Auch würde ich HZBGEW (2-8-153) am Objekt belassen. Durch diese Nummer kann ein Interessierter den Verlauf absolut richtig zurück verfolgen. Die 2-8 stünde für den Inn, 2-8-153 steht für die Sill. Die Zahl 2-8-153-60 besagt also, dass der Viller Bach (2-8-153-60) in die Sill (2-8-153) und die in den Inn fließt (2-8). Dies könnte doch für Interessierte sehr interessant sein, so denke ich. Über die restlichen Attribute könnte man auch noch diskutieren. Schönen Tag noch Erwin ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Gewässernetz Tirol
Am 25.11.2012 19:36, schrieb Erwin OSM: Auch würde ich HZBGEW (2-8-153) am Objekt belassen. Durch diese Nummer kann ein Interessierter den Verlauf absolut richtig zurück verfolgen. Die 2-8 stünde für den Inn, 2-8-153 steht für die Sill. Die Zahl 2-8-153-60 besagt also, dass der Viller Bach (2-8-153-60) in die Sill (2-8-153) und die in den Inn fließt (2-8). Dies könnte doch für Interessierte sehr interessant sein, so denke ich. Hier noch ein Tread zu obigem Thema: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=19061 Ein Kollege aus Deutschland erfasst auch die dortigen Gewässerkennzahlen. Über die restlichen Attribute könnte man auch noch diskutieren. Schönen Tag noch Erwin ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-ro] Zona rezidențială a Bucureștiului
Ok. Problema cu plugin este cunoscut. http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/8137 A funționat cu reverter plugin. Am Samstag, 24. November 2012, 19:23:05 schrieb Michael Häckel: Salut, Zona rezidențială a Bucureștiului a fost ștersă aici: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13950294 Am încercat să repar problema dar cred că undelete plugin in JOSM nu funcționeză correct. Pot restora farmland dar pentru zona rezidențială și un alt farmland primesc doar drumuru fără noduri. Cineva are experiență cu o problemă cum aceasta? În afară de ștergerea aceasta utilizatorul jonnybest a făcut schimbări utile. Michael ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] opendata...
En tout cas c'est bien écrit, et les sujets de ce blog sont intéressants. Personnellement je ne vois pas de problème dans ce titre de blog. Le 23 novembre 2012 18:10, Ab_fab gamma@gmail.com a écrit : Petit détail, vu le jeu de mot un peu pourrave choisi comme titre de blog, on pouvait naturellement penser à Libé. ^^ Mais non, c'est sur la plate-forme du Monde que cela se passe Le 23 novembre 2012 17:22, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : A lire sur le blog J'ai du bon data de libé: http://data.blog.lemonde.fr/2012/11/22/ou-en-est-lopen-data-gouvernemental/ -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquesthttp://openstreetmap.fr/u/christian-quest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr -- ab_fab http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ab_fab Il n'y a pas de pas perdus, Nadja ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] [forum-osm-fr] Tag: Waterway et codage d’un gué.
Le message suivant de : ## Bonjour, Je cherche à positionner un passage au niveau d’un ruisseau qui ne se traverse pas par l’intermédiaire d’un petit pont ou passerelle, mais tout simplement un gué. Existe-t-il une façon pour taguer cela. J’ai jeté un œil sur le wiki traitant des tags Highway et Waterway mais n’ai rien trouvé. [url]http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features[/url] a été posté sur le forum http://forum.openstreetmap.fr/viewforum.php?f=2 Une réponse par mail sur l'adresse d'expédition n'arrivera nulle part Une réponse à la liste ne sera pas transmise au forum, ce qui n'empêche pas une concertation sur la liste avant de recopier la/les meilleurs réponses sur le forum. Notez qu'il n'est pas necessaire d'avoir un compte sur le forum pour répondre. -- Les questions sur ce robot de transfert forum-liste peuvent être posées à sylvainaletuffe.org ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] [forum-osm-fr] Retour info Osmose - Mauvaise valeur pour man_made=poteau té
Le message suivant de : ## J’ai un retour info erreur sur Osmose m’indiquant qu’un tag est mal formé. Alors, effectivement le tag [b]man_made=poteau téléphone[/b] n’est pas acceptable, en toute logique, mais peut on taguer ce type de structures. a été posté sur le forum http://forum.openstreetmap.fr/viewforum.php?f=2 Une réponse par mail sur l'adresse d'expédition n'arrivera nulle part Une réponse à la liste ne sera pas transmise au forum, ce qui n'empêche pas une concertation sur la liste avant de recopier la/les meilleurs réponses sur le forum. Notez qu'il n'est pas necessaire d'avoir un compte sur le forum pour répondre. -- Les questions sur ce robot de transfert forum-liste peuvent être posées à sylvainaletuffe.org ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] [forum-osm-fr] OSM et import des bornes géodésiques
Le message suivant de : ## Etant tout particulièrement intéressé par les tags bornes géodésiques présents dans OSM, quelqu’un aurait il un lien sur le wiki, où d’autres sources, à me communiquer, me permettant de savoir si l’import a repris la totalité des bornes présentes en France, et référencées par l’IGN, où est-ce que cette importation est partielle où encore en cours de traitement. a été posté sur le forum http://forum.openstreetmap.fr/viewforum.php?f=2 Une réponse par mail sur l'adresse d'expédition n'arrivera nulle part Une réponse à la liste ne sera pas transmise au forum, ce qui n'empêche pas une concertation sur la liste avant de recopier la/les meilleurs réponses sur le forum. Notez qu'il n'est pas necessaire d'avoir un compte sur le forum pour répondre. -- Les questions sur ce robot de transfert forum-liste peuvent être posées à sylvainaletuffe.org ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] [forum-osm-fr] API et extraction de données
Le message suivant de : ## Outre le serveur http://api.openstreetmap.fr/xapi, existe-t-il d’autres serveurs permettant l’extraction de données ??? a été posté sur le forum http://forum.openstreetmap.fr/viewforum.php?f=5 Une réponse par mail sur l'adresse d'expédition n'arrivera nulle part Une réponse à la liste ne sera pas transmise au forum, ce qui n'empêche pas une concertation sur la liste avant de recopier la/les meilleurs réponses sur le forum. Notez qu'il n'est pas necessaire d'avoir un compte sur le forum pour répondre. -- Les questions sur ce robot de transfert forum-liste peuvent être posées à sylvainaletuffe.org ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] limites des communes en Midi-Pyrénnées
Félicitations pour ce travail énorme ! Y-a-t-il une doc sur le wiki qui explique la procédure de calage des feuilles cadastrales rasters ? Je vais sans doute m'y mettre sur le Languedoc-Roussillon, notamment dans l'Aude où il manque plein de limites communales. J'aurai peut-être besoin de ton aide Hélène. J'avance doucement sur l'Aude. Il n'en reste pas tant que ça : 65 sur 373 -- Sylvain ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Table des matières Openstreetmap.org
Les nouveaux usagers qui consultent la table des matières de OpenStreetMap.org se voient systématiquement offrir les pages anglaises du wiki même si les pages dans leur langue préférée existent. Un petit effort permettrait de mieux s'adapter au contexte multiculurel du projet OSM et faciliter l'intégration de non anglophones. Pierre ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Table des matières Openstreetmap.org
Complètement d'accord, c'est pas forcément simple de se plonger dans OSM, mais le fait qu'il faille à chaque page vérifier si la page existe en français est assez pénible. Une correction serait apprécié à sa juste valeur :) Le 25/11/2012 16:49, Pierre Béland a écrit : Les nouveaux usagers qui consultent la table des matières de OpenStreetMap.org se voient systématiquement offrir les pages anglaises du wiki même si les pages dans leur langue préférée existent. Un petit effort permettrait de mieux s'adapter au contexte multiculurel du projet OSM et faciliter l'intégration de non anglophones. Pierre ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] [forum-osm-fr] bonsoir à tous: 1 petit nouveau et 1 question
Le message suivant de : ## Bonsoir a tous. Merci pour ce forum. j'avais un Garmin qui à rendu l’âme. Et en butinant de ci-de là j'ai découvert ce projet (bien avancé) .Le concept participatif et open convient au vieux liuxien que je suis. Or je vais souvent aux USA dans des zones perdues , sans connexion téléphone ni autre et un gps of road of connexion me serai ++ utile. Je part egalement bientôt seul au japon sans parler la langue. aussi j'ai butiné le web depuis 4 longues soirées complète et pas de réponse à ma question: - peut- on charger openstreetmap sur un Samsung galaxy s3 ? - télécharger les cartes( et tuiles zoom zone) pour - les USA - le Japon. Si oui quel methode suivre ?? car si sur ordi win ou linux je tourne sans problème. je n'y connais rien , mais réellement rien du maniement d'un galaxy ( supr cadeau mais bien trop pour moi qui n'ai qu'une ligne téléphone , pas de sms , ni messagerie ni net car je viens directement d'un téléphone qui ne fait que téléphone ! et réveil matin(-:)) je n'ai pas d'autre usage. Bref je sort de la grotte et face aux vastes étendues..arghhh Merci pour vos conseils a+ clodd a été posté sur le forum http://forum.openstreetmap.fr/viewforum.php?f=10 Une réponse par mail sur l'adresse d'expédition n'arrivera nulle part Une réponse à la liste ne sera pas transmise au forum, ce qui n'empêche pas une concertation sur la liste avant de recopier la/les meilleurs réponses sur le forum. Notez qu'il n'est pas necessaire d'avoir un compte sur le forum pour répondre. -- Les questions sur ce robot de transfert forum-liste peuvent être posées à sylvainaletuffe.org ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Grosse suppression de données autour de valenciennes
Bonjour, Ce sujet a été traité sur la liste GA de gestion des contributeurs et de leurs erreurs d'ajout de donnée. Mais le problème remonte à novembre 2010. Faisons court : 200 000 objets (chemin/noeuds/relation) vont vraisemblablement être retiré de la base aux alentours de valenciennes car ils ont été copiés depuis google maps il y a 2 ans. Rien n'a été fait à l'époque et c'est maintenant encore pire car plein de contributeurs ont retouché ces données mais hélas, en se basant sur les données copiées de google. Il n'est pas possible de laisser ça, il me semble, et la seule solution... c'est d'effacer, et ça va laisser un gros trou tout en effaçant toute retouche faite à ces données. Je n'attends pas vraiment de solution miracle de votre part (m'enfin si vous en avez une, dites moi !), mais je veux prévenir pour expliquer le pourquoi d'un futur trou. Le détail est là : http://trac.openstreetmap.fr/ticket/147 Et je compte faire la demande au DWG d'ici 2/3 jours. Si quelqu'un se motive pour faire une copie, de la zone (qu'on trouvera de toute façon dans les minute diffs des fichiers anciens) qu'il se manifeste pour dire voilà la zone à refaire mais je ne le ferais pas moi. -- sly (sylvain letuffe) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Limite 78/95... cassée et réparée.
Je viens de réparer la limite entre le 78 et le 95 vers Maurecourt/Jouy qui avait été supprimée par erreur par un nouveau contributeur. Bien sûr, c'était aussi une limite de canton électoral, d'EPCI, de communes et j'en passe... j'espère n'avoir rien oublié, si un addict du découpage veut regarde qu'il en profite ! N'ayant pas pu récupérer par revert l'objet supprimé, je suis donc reparti du cadastre actuel (un peu foireux d'ailleurs). Voici l'objet supprimé : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/165083117 Et le nouveau: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/192727814 -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquesthttp://openstreetmap.fr/u/christian-quest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Compte-rendu de l'atelier (J)OSM lors de Capitole du Libre
Bonsoir, Voici un rapide compte-rendu de l'atelier animé par Vincent Privat et moi-même aujourd'hui à Toulouse dans le cadre de Capitole du Libre : http://www.capitoledulibre.org/2012/ateliers-grand-public-dimanche-25-novembre.html#atelier-openstreetmap Une semaine avant l'événement, nous n'avions que 4 inscrits, vendredi soir ils étaient 8, hier soir 15 et ce sont finalement 22 personnes qui sont venues découvrir (J)OSM ! L'atelier a duré 3h30. Pendant que je déroulais l'atelier et répondait aux questions, Vincent courait de poste en poste pour aider qui en avait besoin. J'avais demandé à chaque personne d'éditer une zone qu'elle connaissait bien afin qu'elle ait un regard critique sur l'existant. Mais du coup, chacun rencontrait sur sa zone des problèmes particuliers. Le public avait l'air plutôt satisfait en sortant malgré un petit souci de machine qui nous a fait perdre dix minutes (l'éternel effet démo, cette fois-ci imputable à un vidéo-projecteur de basse résolution et des fenêtres impossibles à réduire avec la version de JOSM que j'utilisais) et la perte de la connexion wifi sur mon poste (point d'accès saturé) dans les vingt dernières minutes. L'expérience est donc concluante malgré la bonne dose 'improvisation de l'atelier (j'ai enchaîné les conférences sur des sujets différents ces derniers jours et j'ai du pour chacune d'entre elles préparer un nouveau support, la préparation de l'atelier (J)OSM en a souffert). Je remercie chaleureusement Vincent pour son aide inestimable. L'année prochaine, il viendra certainement avec des baskets mais il serait quand même préférable que nous soyons plus nombreux. :) Bonne soirée, Sébastien -- Sébastien Dinot, sebastien.di...@free.fr http://sebastien.dinot.free.fr/ Ne goûtez pas au logiciel libre, vous ne pourriez plus vous en passer ! ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Limite 78/95... cassée et réparée.
Christian, Dans JOSM, il était possible de récupérer simplement le chemin effacé à l'aide du plugin Undelete avec instruction w165083117.Le nouveau chemin correspond à celui effacé. En regardant de plus près les 11 relations, j'observe deux relations Canton L'Hautil avec la même liste de membres. Elles ont un code INSEE distinct. Doublons? Relation L'Hautil (2199608) ref:INSEE = 9532 Relation L'Hautil (2507835) ref:INSEE = 9539 Pierre De : Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr À : Discussions sur OSM en français talk-fr@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Dimanche 25 novembre 2012 14h26 Objet : [OSM-talk-fr] Limite 78/95... cassée et réparée. Je viens de réparer la limite entre le 78 et le 95 vers Maurecourt/Jouy qui avait été supprimée par erreur par un nouveau contributeur. Bien sûr, c'était aussi une limite de canton électoral, d'EPCI, de communes et j'en passe... j'espère n'avoir rien oublié, si un addict du découpage veut regarde qu'il en profite ! N'ayant pas pu récupérer par revert l'objet supprimé, je suis donc reparti du cadastre actuel (un peu foireux d'ailleurs). Voici l'objet supprimé : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/165083117 Et le nouveau: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/192727814 -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Limite 78/95... cassée et réparée.
Pas de problème le nouveau chemin fait bien partie des 11 relations qui référençaient l'ancien chemin supprimé Le 25 novembre 2012 20:26, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr a écrit : Je viens de réparer la limite entre le 78 et le 95 vers Maurecourt/Jouy qui avait été supprimée par erreur par un nouveau contributeur. Bien sûr, c'était aussi une limite de canton électoral, d'EPCI, de communes et j'en passe... j'espère n'avoir rien oublié, si un addict du découpage veut regarde qu'il en profite ! N'ayant pas pu récupérer par revert l'objet supprimé, je suis donc reparti du cadastre actuel (un peu foireux d'ailleurs). Voici l'objet supprimé : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/165083117 Et le nouveau: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/192727814 -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquesthttp://openstreetmap.fr/u/christian-quest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Limite 78/95... cassée et réparée.
Il y a certainement confusion avec l'une d'elle qui a le mauvais code INSEE. l'autre canton limitrophe est la relation 7839 pour le canton d'Andrésy dans l'autre département) et qui est déjà dans les 11 relations. reste à savoir quel est le bon code canton (il a peut-être changé de code ce qui expliquerait le doublon apparent, ou bien le premier avait été saisi avec le mauvais code, visiblement une erreur de frappe d'un chiffre ou une mauvaise lecture de la base INSEE en cliquant à côté sans vérifier le nom du canton affiché, ce qui explique qu'on ne le trouvait pas et qu'il a été réimporté avec le bon code). Le 25 novembre 2012 21:44, Pierre Béland infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Christian, Dans JOSM, il était possible de récupérer simplement le chemin effacé à l'aide du plugin Undelete avec instruction w165083117. Le nouveau chemin correspond à celui effacé. En regardant de plus près les 11 relations, j'observe deux relations Canton L'Hautil avec la même liste de membres. Elles ont un code INSEE distinct. Doublons? Relation L'Hautil (2199608) ref:INSEE = 9532 Relation L'Hautil (2507835) ref:INSEE = 9539 Pierre -- *De :* Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr *À :* Discussions sur OSM en français talk-fr@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 25 novembre 2012 14h26 *Objet :* [OSM-talk-fr] Limite 78/95... cassée et réparée. Je viens de réparer la limite entre le 78 et le 95 vers Maurecourt/Jouy qui avait été supprimée par erreur par un nouveau contributeur. Bien sûr, c'était aussi une limite de canton électoral, d'EPCI, de communes et j'en passe... j'espère n'avoir rien oublié, si un addict du découpage veut regarde qu'il en profite ! N'ayant pas pu récupérer par revert l'objet supprimé, je suis donc reparti du cadastre actuel (un peu foireux d'ailleurs). Voici l'objet supprimé : http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/165083117 Et le nouveau: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/192727814 -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquesthttp://openstreetmap.fr/u/christian-quest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Limite 78/95... cassée et réparée.
Le 25 novembre 2012 21:44, Pierre Béland infosbelas-...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Christian, Dans JOSM, il était possible de récupérer simplement le chemin effacé à l'aide du plugin Undelete avec instruction w165083117. Le nouveau chemin correspond à celui effacé. J'ai aussi essayé cette méthode mais je me suis retrouvé avec des noeuds récupérés mais par de way... donc j'ai préféré repartir du cadastre. En regardant de plus près les 11 relations, j'observe deux relations Canton L'Hautil avec la même liste de membres. Elles ont un code INSEE distinct. Doublons? Relation L'Hautil (2199608) ref:INSEE = 9532 Relation L'Hautil (2507835) ref:INSEE = 9539 11 relations c'est effectivement un compte pas rond... en général on en a un nombre paire si elles sont complète de part et d'autre. Ca sent le doublon... -- Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France - http://openstreetmap.fr/u/cquesthttp://openstreetmap.fr/u/christian-quest ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Grosse suppression de données autour de valenciennes
Le dimanche 25 novembre 2012 23:10:24, Vincent Privat a écrit : Idée: on restaure le plugin JOSM licensechange en le customisant non pas sur le statut d'acceptance des CT, mais sur l'id du compte utilisateur de Cédric. idée ? ... ou proposition de le faire ? Et combien de temps ça va traîner dans la base avant que tout le monde oubli et qu'on ne soit pas plus avancé ? -- sly (sylvain letuffe) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Compte-rendu de l'atelier (J)OSM lors de Capitole du Libre
Merci à toi pour avoir animé la plus grosse partie de l'atelier :) La méthode était bien puisque entre les gens qui avaient des problèmes avec les paquets Ubuntu josm en plus du JOSM téléchargé, ceux qui avaient des problèmes parce que le wifi avait sauté pendant une manip', ceux qui avaient des Mac, ou qui avaient tout simplement des questions sur des points précis, j'ai pas vu 2 fois le même souci :) A refaire définitivement l'an prochain vu l'intérêt que ça a suscité ! A+ Vincent Le 25 novembre 2012 21:27, Sébastien Dinot sebastien.di...@free.fr a écrit : ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Grosse suppression de données autour de valenciennes
Proposition s'il y a des motivé(e)s pour remapper. Je veux bien restaurer le plugin mais pas restaurer 200k objets tout seul ^^ Le 25 novembre 2012 23:13, sly (sylvain letuffe) li...@letuffe.org a écrit : Le dimanche 25 novembre 2012 23:10:24, Vincent Privat a écrit : Idée: on restaure le plugin JOSM licensechange en le customisant non pas sur le statut d'acceptance des CT, mais sur l'id du compte utilisateur de Cédric. idée ? ... ou proposition de le faire ? Et combien de temps ça va traîner dans la base avant que tout le monde oubli et qu'on ne soit pas plus avancé ? -- sly (sylvain letuffe) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Grosse suppression de données autour de valenciennes
Le dimanche 25 novembre 2012 à 20:18 +0100, sly (sylvain letuffe) a écrit : Bonjour, Le détail est là : http://trac.openstreetmap.fr/ticket/147 Je viens de lire le ticket et un point me choque au plus au point. Modifié il y a 2 heures par sly Edit : modération du message de philippe V, c'est hors sujet et n'est pas là la question. Modifié il y a 2 heures par sly Et en quoi mon message précédent que tu viens juste de modérer était hors sujet ? Parce que je l'ai décidé. Les messages de philippe sont certes, la plupart du temps, lourd, verbeux et hors sujet, mais de là a les supprimer parce que tu peux le faire est inacceptable. Je trouve ce comportement déplorable et injustifiable. Librement, -- Christophe Merlet (RedFox) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Grosse suppression de données autour de valenciennes
Bon c'est ptet pas aussi simple. J'ai modifié et recompilé le plugin mais ça ne fonctionne plus car le Quick History Service (http://wtfe.gryph.de) semble avoir été arrêté depuis. S'il y a beaucoup de motivé(e)s pour du remapping préventif je peux regarder plus en détail pour utiliser l'historique classique (mais beaucoup plus lent). Sinon je laisse tomber, on fait la requête au DWG et du remapping après suppression. Le 25 novembre 2012 23:19, Christophe Merlet red...@redfoxcenter.org a écrit : Le dimanche 25 novembre 2012 à 20:18 +0100, sly (sylvain letuffe) a écrit : Bonjour, Le détail est là : http://trac.openstreetmap.fr/ticket/147 Je viens de lire le ticket et un point me choque au plus au point. Modifié il y a 2 heures par sly Edit : modération du message de philippe V, c'est hors sujet et n'est pas là la question. Modifié il y a 2 heures par sly Et en quoi mon message précédent que tu viens juste de modérer était hors sujet ? Parce que je l'ai décidé. Les messages de philippe sont certes, la plupart du temps, lourd, verbeux et hors sujet, mais de là a les supprimer parce que tu peux le faire est inacceptable. Je trouve ce comportement déplorable et injustifiable. Librement, -- Christophe Merlet (RedFox) ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-ja] highway=escape タグが承認
箱根ターンパイクでも見たことがあります。 エンジンブレーキ使用を促す標識がある道路に多いですね。 鉄道だと、単線の交換駅には必ずと言っていいほどあるので、使用頻度は高いと思います。 2012年11月25日日曜日 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 12:26:30PM +0900, Shu Higashi wrote: あまり無いんですかね。 例えばこちらのようなものです。東 http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/access0772/5667074.html なるほど。 でも、escapeはhighway だけではなくてrailwayにも使いたいですね。 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AE%89%E5%85%A8%E5%81%B4%E7%B7%9A oota ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org javascript:; http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
[Talk-us] Operation Cowboy - Preaparing Thank you gift
Hi, if we look at the current stats, 150 users joined the OPC2012 which results in 300 active mappers in the US (as the usual 200 ones). Personally I like to send out an Thank you all! message, but maybe we all can build something more personal? Just a few ideas: 1. Collecting photo snapshots of the american OSM community and build a collage with it? Maybe the string Thank you with your faces? Or as part in a animation? (who can do this videoediting?) 2. Writing the String in all possible languages (in german: Vielen Dank!) in the USA deserts at OSM, taking a snapshot and removing them afterwards? Maybe you have another ideas, how you can thank people contributing from the other end of the world? Matthias ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] street name expansion thoughts
On 11/25/2012 8:20 PM, Richard Welty wrote: however, should we perhaps also run expansion over the addr:street tags at the same time? No objection here - we can expand the addr:street tag based on its proximity to the actual street, and therefore the root TIGER tags that ensure a quality expansion. i'm becoming involved in the effort to get house number addressing and routing working in mkgmap and it'd be nice if it could be presumed that addr:street on an address and name on a street probably matched without doing any fooling around. One complication is hand-entered street data, which may result in an abbreviation in addr:street with no TIGER ancestor to trace back for finding the base name and type for a safe machine expansion. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
