[Talk-it] Fwd: Re: mkgmap e file typ

[Michele iw1gfv]

http://piemontegps.altervista.org/index.php?p=Sviluppo

Questo é il link corretto , sono rimasto fregato dal correttore.

Il 6 dicembre 2017 14:08:01 CET, e.rossin...@alice.it ha scritto:
>ciao, scusami, ti ringrazio ma a questo link
>http://piemontese.altervista.org/
>non trovo nulla, dove intendi di preciso?
>grazie
>--enrico
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Re: [Talk-it] nuovo servizio per aiutare a mappare

[Marco Ciampa]

On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:47:52AM -0600, Aury88 wrote:
> Andrea Albani wrote
> > Questa è stata appena aggiunta a transifex per la sua traduzione e mi
> > sembra ancora più fantasmagorica delle altre due che ho già segnalato:
> > 
> > Around the World in Five Minutes
> > 
> > Let's create a changeset with an enourmous bounding box. Map something
> > first in [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=5/-48.487/-69.895 South
> > Chile], and then in [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=6/55.912/159.335
> > Kamchatka].
> > 
> > Avrà un senso, ma io non l'ho trovato.
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> l'ho tradotto, ma lo trovo pure io assurdo. non ha alcun senso o utilità
> avere bounding box enormi...ogni tanto mi capita di farne qualcuno quando
> aggiungo dei tag a degli elementi simili posizionati lontano fra loro ma
> l'obiettivo non è certo creare un bounding box enorme 
> Penso che lo scopo sia far vedere che non ci sono limiti all'area
> modificabie in un unico changeset, ma comunque una parolina in più per
> spiegare che solitamente questo non avviene ce l'avrei spesa
> 
> 

La cosa migliore IMHO è di segnalarlo come bug su github...

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Re: [Talk-it] mkgmap e file typ

[Andrea Albani]

   ...non ti sei perso nulla

...alla stringa ad esempio
place=city & population > 99 & name=* {set cityxx=yes} [0x0100
resolution 18 continue with_actions]
...corrisponde l'immagine che nel file typ è : tipo 001 e sottotipo 00
...e sono proprio queste le immagini poi che si vedono in mappa a partire da
uno zoom che per 18 corrisponde a 8-3km...e sono tute scelte che si fanno
nella descrizione dello style scelto per compilare la mappa...ora imagino
che demon sappia che con typviwer esista la possibilità di copiare le
immagini da altri file typ


Non ho capito la dissertazione che hai fatto e che valore porta alla
discussione.
Sicuramente non hai risposto alla domanda di demon.box a cui spetta di dire
se quanto da me riportato gli serve o no.
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Re: [Talk-it] Riconoscimento inaspettato

[Aury88]

Michele Malfatti wrote
> Ciao a tutti volevo condividere con la lista il riconoscimento che mi è
> arrivato via mail da hotosm per aver contribuito alla mappatura di Puerto
> Rico.
> Grazie Michele 
> 
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Vivissimi complimenti ;-)



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Re: [Talk-it] nuovo servizio per aiutare a mappare

[Aury88]

Andrea Albani wrote
> Questa è stata appena aggiunta a transifex per la sua traduzione e mi
> sembra ancora più fantasmagorica delle altre due che ho già segnalato:
> 
> Around the World in Five Minutes
> 
> Let's create a changeset with an enourmous bounding box. Map something
> first in [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=5/-48.487/-69.895 South
> Chile], and then in [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=6/55.912/159.335
> Kamchatka].
> 
> Avrà un senso, ma io non l'ho trovato.
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l'ho tradotto, ma lo trovo pure io assurdo. non ha alcun senso o utilità
avere bounding box enormi...ogni tanto mi capita di farne qualcuno quando
aggiungo dei tag a degli elementi simili posizionati lontano fra loro ma
l'obiettivo non è certo creare un bounding box enorme 
Penso che lo scopo sia far vedere che non ci sono limiti all'area
modificabie in un unico changeset, ma comunque una parolina in più per
spiegare che solitamente questo non avviene ce l'avrei spesa



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[OSM-talk-fr] Publication d'un Osmecum : Comment cartographier les services de santé ?

[Jean-Christophe Becquet]

Bonjour,

Notre Cartopartie : Libre information sur les services de santé, tous
acteurs, tous concernés ! du jeudi 16 novembre a réuni plus de 40
contributeurs qui ont recensé plusieurs dizaines de services de santé à
Digne.
http://ferme.animacoop.net/wikis/afnicarto/wakka.php?wiki=CartoSante
https://twitter.com/AssoAdrets/status/931275185919021058

Nous partageons sous licence libre (CC BY-SA) un Osmecum que nous avions
préparé pour les participants : Comment cartographier les services de
santé ?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OSMecum-sant%C3%A9.pdf

Qu'est-ce qu'un Osmecum ?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/Osmecum

Le contenu s'appuie principalement sur la page wiki francophone Comment
cartographier un (santé)
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Comment_cartographier_un_(sant%C3%A9)

Les sources sont disponibles au format Scribus 1.4.6
http://ferme.animacoop.net/wikis/afnicarto/wakka.php?wiki=PageMenu/download=Osmecumsantesourcesscribus146.zip

Ce document est le fuit d'un travail à trois voix avec le soutien
financier de la Fondation AFNIC  :
Guillaume Doukhan pour l'ADRETS  Camille
Bissuel pour Nylnook  et Jean-Christophe Becquet
pour APITUX .

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Re: [Talk-it] mkgmap e file typ

[scratera]

Andrea Albani wrote
> Prova con typviewer [0]. Ha un editor che ti permette di disegnare e
> importare icone.
> 
> 
> [0] https://sites.google.com/site/sherco40/
> 
> Il giorno 5 dicembre 2017 16:16, demon.box 

> e.rossini73@

>  ha
> scritto:
> 
>> Ciao, oltre a mappare mi piace crearmi con i dati OSM le mie mappe con
>> mkgmap
>> in modo da visualizzarle con MapSource e mettermele sul GPS per poi
>> uscire.
>> Sicuramente anche tanti di voi lo fanno.
>> Ora volevo chiedervi per creare le icone del file typ voi come fate?
>> Voglio
>> dire le importate da qualche fonte? Butto lì un'idea: c'è modo di creare
>> un
>> file typ con icone come quelle ad es. di OsmAnd o qualcosa di simile?
>> Grazie.
>> --enrico
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...non ti sei perso nulla
...alla stringa ad esempio 
place=city & population > 99 & name=* {set cityxx=yes} [0x0100
resolution 18 continue with_actions]
...corrisponde l'immagine che nel file typ è : tipo 001 e sottotipo 00
...e sono proprio queste le immagini poi che si vedono in mappa a partire da
uno zoom che per 18 corrisponde a 8-3km...e sono tute scelte che si fanno
nella descrizione dello style scelto per compilare la mappa...ora imagino
che demon sappia che con typviwer esista la possibilità di copiare le
immagini da altri file typ



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Re: [talk-au] Using "national_park" rather than "protected_area" tags where appropriate

[Andrew Davidson]

On 07/12/17 14:24, cleary wrote:



In the wiki entry for "Key:leisure",  the main statement is that the
leisure tag is for places people go in their spare time.  


Ignoring the obvious problem, which is that this is just the usual 
sub-optimal tagging you get in OSM (should have been 
landuse=nature_reserve), your interpretation lead us to the problem of 
verifiability. So I can only map a leisure=swimming_pool I see in some 
aerial imagery if I know more than one person has ever used it (or more 
than one in the last year? last month? last week?) in their spare time 
(if they bunked off from the work that they were supposed to be doing is 
that spare time? if they aren't employed is that spare time?)?


On the other hand, if at least two scientists or parkies have spent a 
couple of minutes enjoying the view, while they had lunch, I guess that 
makes that IUCN IA reserve leisure=nature_reserve?


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Re: [talk-au] Using "national_park" rather than "protected_area" tags where appropriate

[Warin]

I too don't think the leisure tag should be added to national parks as a 
default.
What is the point then of the national park tagging?
Some sections of national parks are not available for leisure so the leisure 
tag is inappropriate,
these include 'wilderness' areas.
Those areas have a higher level of protection - and should carry both an access 
and a different protection value.


On 07-Dec-17 02:24 PM, cleary wrote:


In the wiki entry for "Key:leisure",  the main statement is that the
leisure tag is for places people go in their spare time.  That is why I
had thought that it was not an appropriate tag  to use for places where
people cannot usually go.

However, if there is general agreement  that this is an appropriate tag
to be added to nature protected areas, then I would be happy to use it
that way.



On Thu, Dec 7, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote:


On 07/12/17 10:54, cleary wrote:

Protected areas will be rendered on the map if the tag
"leisure=nature_reserve" is added. However not all nature protected
areas are open for leisure purposes (depending on one's definition of
"leisure"). Access may sometimes be restricted to research or
educational purposes or similar. It seems preferable that such areas be
tagged as "national_park" accompanied with an "access=restricted" or
similar tag.

I don't understand why you think tagging something leisure indicates the
access characteristics. Tagging leisure=nature_reserve no more indicates
public access than leisure=marina, leisure=swimming_pool, or
leisure=sauna. If you want to indicate access use the access tag.

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Re: [talk-au] Using "national_park" rather than "protected_area" tags where appropriate

[cleary]

In the wiki entry for "Key:leisure",  the main statement is that the
leisure tag is for places people go in their spare time.  That is why I
had thought that it was not an appropriate tag  to use for places where 
people cannot usually go.

However, if there is general agreement  that this is an appropriate tag
to be added to nature protected areas, then I would be happy to use it
that way.  



On Thu, Dec 7, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote:
> 
> 
> On 07/12/17 10:54, cleary wrote:
> > Protected areas will be rendered on the map if the tag
> > "leisure=nature_reserve" is added. However not all nature protected
> > areas are open for leisure purposes (depending on one's definition of
> > "leisure"). Access may sometimes be restricted to research or
> > educational purposes or similar. It seems preferable that such areas be
> > tagged as "national_park" accompanied with an "access=restricted" or
> > similar tag.
> 
> I don't understand why you think tagging something leisure indicates the 
> access characteristics. Tagging leisure=nature_reserve no more indicates 
> public access than leisure=marina, leisure=swimming_pool, or 
> leisure=sauna. If you want to indicate access use the access tag.
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Re: [talk-au] Using "national_park" rather than "protected_area" tags where appropriate

[Leith Bade]

I also find it interesting that state forests in Australia are treated
quite differently then state forests in the US.

In the US they get borders which are thinner then national parks, whereas
here they just show up as a forested area (even if the entire state forest
is not actually covered in trees). I haven't dug into how they are tagged
in the US.


Thanks,
Leith Bade
le...@bade.nz

On 7 December 2017 at 12:20, Leith Bade  wrote:

> I agree as I recently encountered this issue. Following the GitHub issue
> on the protected area tag, it seems support in the renderer is a still the
> source of a large amount of debate and argument because of the large number
> of clases and regional variations in use of the tag.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Leith Bade
> le...@bade.nz
>
> On 7 December 2017 at 10:54, cleary  wrote:
>
>> There are long-standing problems in relation to the rendering of
>> protected areas in OpenStreetMap. This is not surprising as there many
>> protection classes (there is provision for up to 99) including
>> nature-protected, resources-protected and social-protected areas.
>> Presumably various types of protection classes would warrant different
>> rendering but currently none seem to appear on the map unless certain
>> additional  tags are used.
>>
>> Currently some nature-protected areas operated by Australian state
>> national park organisations are tagged as "protected areas" and are not
>> rendered on the map. These are large and significant areas missing from
>> the map.
>>
>> Nature-protected areas could be identified with the alternate "national
>> park" tag. The wiki page on "boundary=national_park" states "A national
>> park is a relatively large area of land declared by a government (just
>> as boundary=administrative are declared/recognised by governments), to
>> be set aside for human recreation and enjoyment, as well as the
>> protection of the natural environment and/or cultural heritage of an
>> area. This would normally also come with restrictions on human activity,
>> particularly development, for the protection of wildlife and scenery."
>> It proceeds to explain that the words "national park" do not need to
>> appear in the name but the area, however named, should satisfy the above
>> definition.
>>
>> Many Australian areas whose titles include nomenclature such as "State
>> Conservation Area" or "Nature Reserve" or "Wilderness Park" could all be
>> encompassed under the "boundary=national_park" tag.
>>
>> I understand arguments about not mapping for the renderer. However, in
>> this instance, there appear to be two acceptable forms of tagging but
>> only one is reliably rendered. Therefore I propose that the Australian
>> Tagging Guidelines be modified to encourage preference for nature
>> protected areas, which satisfy the above definition of "national park",
>> to be tagged as such. At some time in the future, if there is progress
>> in the rendering of protected areas, this guideline could be revised if
>> warranted.  In the interim, using the option of "boundary=national_park"
>> would be consistent with the guidelines for that tag and would permit
>> these significant areas to appear on the map.
>>
>> Protected areas will be rendered on the map if the tag
>> "leisure=nature_reserve" is added. However not all nature protected
>> areas are open for leisure purposes (depending on one's definition of
>> "leisure"). Access may sometimes be restricted to research or
>> educational purposes or similar. It seems preferable that such areas be
>> tagged as "national_park" accompanied with an "access=restricted" or
>> similar tag.
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Re: [talk-au] Using "national_park" rather than "protected_area" tags where appropriate

[Leith Bade]

I agree as I recently encountered this issue. Following the GitHub issue on
the protected area tag, it seems support in the renderer is a still the
source of a large amount of debate and argument because of the large number
of clases and regional variations in use of the tag.


Thanks,
Leith Bade
le...@bade.nz

On 7 December 2017 at 10:54, cleary  wrote:

> There are long-standing problems in relation to the rendering of
> protected areas in OpenStreetMap. This is not surprising as there many
> protection classes (there is provision for up to 99) including
> nature-protected, resources-protected and social-protected areas.
> Presumably various types of protection classes would warrant different
> rendering but currently none seem to appear on the map unless certain
> additional  tags are used.
>
> Currently some nature-protected areas operated by Australian state
> national park organisations are tagged as "protected areas" and are not
> rendered on the map. These are large and significant areas missing from
> the map.
>
> Nature-protected areas could be identified with the alternate "national
> park" tag. The wiki page on "boundary=national_park" states "A national
> park is a relatively large area of land declared by a government (just
> as boundary=administrative are declared/recognised by governments), to
> be set aside for human recreation and enjoyment, as well as the
> protection of the natural environment and/or cultural heritage of an
> area. This would normally also come with restrictions on human activity,
> particularly development, for the protection of wildlife and scenery."
> It proceeds to explain that the words "national park" do not need to
> appear in the name but the area, however named, should satisfy the above
> definition.
>
> Many Australian areas whose titles include nomenclature such as "State
> Conservation Area" or "Nature Reserve" or "Wilderness Park" could all be
> encompassed under the "boundary=national_park" tag.
>
> I understand arguments about not mapping for the renderer. However, in
> this instance, there appear to be two acceptable forms of tagging but
> only one is reliably rendered. Therefore I propose that the Australian
> Tagging Guidelines be modified to encourage preference for nature
> protected areas, which satisfy the above definition of "national park",
> to be tagged as such. At some time in the future, if there is progress
> in the rendering of protected areas, this guideline could be revised if
> warranted.  In the interim, using the option of "boundary=national_park"
> would be consistent with the guidelines for that tag and would permit
> these significant areas to appear on the map.
>
> Protected areas will be rendered on the map if the tag
> "leisure=nature_reserve" is added. However not all nature protected
> areas are open for leisure purposes (depending on one's definition of
> "leisure"). Access may sometimes be restricted to research or
> educational purposes or similar. It seems preferable that such areas be
> tagged as "national_park" accompanied with an "access=restricted" or
> similar tag.
>
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Re: [Talk-de] OSMF-Vorstandswahlen 2017

[Christoph Hormann]

On Thursday 07 December 2017, Michael Reichert wrote:
>
> 1. Paul Norman
> 2. Joost Schouppe
> 3. David Dean oder leer lassen
> 4. (leer lassen)

Ohne eine Empfehlung abgeben zu wollen (ich bin da anders als Michael 
sehr zurückhaltend) - wenn man bei der STV-Wahl einen Kandidaten 
unbedingt verhindern will dann sollte man alle anderen Kandidaten auf 
die Liste setzen.

Denn wenn man nur zwei Kandidaten auf dem Wahlzettel hat und im 
STV-Verfahren dann einer davon eliminiert wird weil aussichtslos (siehe 
auch die Beschreibung von STV in Michaels erstem Teil) dann hat man 
ggf. keine Stimme mehr und somit auch keine gegen den Kandidaten, den 
man verhindern möchte.

Die vierte Position bei einer Wahl für zwei Sitze leer zu lassen, weil 
man einen der Kandidaten überhaupt nicht möchte, hat hingegen so weit 
ich das sehe keine große praktische Bedeutung, ist aber natürlich ein 
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Re: [Talk-de] OSMF-Vorstandswahlen 2017

[Michael Reichert]

Hallo,

Am 06.12.2017 um 13:35 schrieb Michael Reichert:
> ich habe gestern Abend im deutschen OSM-Blog einen längeren Beitrag über
> die Kandidaten der diesjährigen Wahlen zum Vorstand der OSMF veröffentlicht.
> 
> https://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2017/12/wahlen-zum-vorstand-der-openstreetmap-foundation-2017-teil-1/
> 
> In dem verlinkten ersten Teil fasse ich die Wahlprogramme, die Antworten
> auf Wählerfragen sowie die Kritiker zusammen. Teil 2 des Beitrags ist
> noch nicht fertig und passiert heute Abend hoffentlich die
> Rechtschreibkontrolle [1].

Teil 2 ist jetzt auch online.

http://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2017/12/wahlen-zum-vorstand-der-openstreetmap-foundation-2017-teil-2/

Mein Wahlvorschlag lautet:

1. Paul Norman
2. Joost Schouppe
3. David Dean oder leer lassen
4. (leer lassen)

Viele Grüße

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Re: [Talk-es] Importación de Catastro

[Javier Sánchez Portero]

Daniel, apúntate en la tabla al final de

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Catastro_espa%C3%B1ol/Importaci%C3%B3n_de_edificios/Conversi%C3%B3n_de_datos/Validaci%C3%B3n#Precisi.C3.B3n_respecto_a_im.C3.A1genes_a.C3.A9reas

El 6 de diciembre de 2017, 13:49, dcapillae  escribió:

> Hola, Javier.
>
> En primer lugar, agradecerte tu esmerado trabajo. Me gustaría colaborar
> como
> voluntario para comprobar la precisión de las importaciones de edificios si
> se hacen ensayos en Málaga.
>
> Personalmente llevo meses mapeando edificios de forma manual, uno a uno. Me
> limito a mapear únicamente los contornos exteriores, y así he completado ya
> varios distritos de mi ciudad. Mapear edificios manualmente es una tarea
> sencilla gracias a la información del Catastro, pero es poco productiva,
> consume demasiado tiempo que podríamos estar dedicando a otras cosas.
>
> Me gustaría completar el mapeado completo de edificios de mi ciudad, así
> que
> si se hacen ensayos en Málaga, cuenta conmigo para verificar la precisión
> de
> las importaciones.
>
> Gracias de nuevo por tu trabajo.
>
>
>
> -
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[talk-au] Using "national_park" rather than "protected_area" tags where appropriate

[cleary]

There are long-standing problems in relation to the rendering of
protected areas in OpenStreetMap. This is not surprising as there many
protection classes (there is provision for up to 99) including
nature-protected, resources-protected and social-protected areas.
Presumably various types of protection classes would warrant different
rendering but currently none seem to appear on the map unless certain
additional  tags are used. 

Currently some nature-protected areas operated by Australian state
national park organisations are tagged as "protected areas" and are not
rendered on the map. These are large and significant areas missing from
the map.

Nature-protected areas could be identified with the alternate "national
park" tag. The wiki page on "boundary=national_park" states "A national
park is a relatively large area of land declared by a government (just
as boundary=administrative are declared/recognised by governments), to
be set aside for human recreation and enjoyment, as well as the
protection of the natural environment and/or cultural heritage of an
area. This would normally also come with restrictions on human activity,
particularly development, for the protection of wildlife and scenery."
It proceeds to explain that the words "national park" do not need to
appear in the name but the area, however named, should satisfy the above
definition.

Many Australian areas whose titles include nomenclature such as "State
Conservation Area" or "Nature Reserve" or "Wilderness Park" could all be
encompassed under the "boundary=national_park" tag. 

I understand arguments about not mapping for the renderer. However, in
this instance, there appear to be two acceptable forms of tagging but
only one is reliably rendered. Therefore I propose that the Australian
Tagging Guidelines be modified to encourage preference for nature
protected areas, which satisfy the above definition of "national park",
to be tagged as such. At some time in the future, if there is progress
in the rendering of protected areas, this guideline could be revised if
warranted.  In the interim, using the option of "boundary=national_park"
would be consistent with the guidelines for that tag and would permit
these significant areas to appear on the map. 

Protected areas will be rendered on the map if the tag
"leisure=nature_reserve" is added. However not all nature protected
areas are open for leisure purposes (depending on one's definition of
"leisure"). Access may sometimes be restricted to research or
educational purposes or similar. It seems preferable that such areas be
tagged as "national_park" accompanied with an "access=restricted" or
similar tag.

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Re: [Talk-it] mkgmap e file typ

[Andrea Albani]

Prova con typviewer [0]. Ha un editor che ti permette di disegnare e
importare icone.


[0] https://sites.google.com/site/sherco40/

Il giorno 5 dicembre 2017 16:16, demon.box  ha
scritto:

> Ciao, oltre a mappare mi piace crearmi con i dati OSM le mie mappe con
> mkgmap
> in modo da visualizzarle con MapSource e mettermele sul GPS per poi uscire.
> Sicuramente anche tanti di voi lo fanno.
> Ora volevo chiedervi per creare le icone del file typ voi come fate? Voglio
> dire le importate da qualche fonte? Butto lì un'idea: c'è modo di creare un
> file typ con icone come quelle ad es. di OsmAnd o qualcosa di simile?
> Grazie.
> --enrico
>
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] bornes de recharge pour VE véhicule électrique

[François Lacombe]

Pour cela vous avez une petite clé devices=* bien pratique

Même si c'est pas pensé pour ça à la place, ca peut faire l'affaire

François

*François Lacombe*

fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com
www.infos-reseaux.com
@InfosReseaux 

Le 7 décembre 2017 à 00:11,  a écrit :

> Il va aussi créer des groupes de stations et distinguer le nombre de
> places et le nombre de véhicules pouvant charger en parallèle.
> Vu à Lorient : 2 places, lorsqu'on branche la seconde prise, message
> disant que le contrat ne permet pas de charger. Donc il faut attendre que
> la première voiture soit chargée pour que la seconde charge.
> La personne va à un emplacement à 3 places. Il se connecte, c'est le
> second. Ça marche.
> Arrive un troisième... qui fait tout disjoncter.
>
> Bon, peut-être qu'il suffit de noter quand l'opérateur est Morbihan
> Énergies...
>
> Jean-Yvon
>
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 05. Dezember 2017 um 12:57 Uhr
> > Von: marc marc - marc_marc_...@hotmail.com
> > An: talk-fr 
> > Betreff: [OSM-talk-fr] bornes de recharge pour VE véhicule électrique
> >
> > Bonjour,
> >
> > HS-157 sur irc signalait https://avent.data.gouv.fr/2017/04.html
> > En résumé, courant 2017 selon les cas,la publication est obligatoire en
> > OpenData. J'ai refais la comparaison que j'avais fait l'an passé :
> > ~1000 bornes dans osm en France
> > ~2000 bornes dans le fichier OpenData
> > ~1 bornes publiques sur ChargeMap (~12000 - ~2000 privés)
> >
> > Ce qi m'amène à 2 questions :
> > - est-il possible de faire une maj du fichier officiel ? voir en
> > automatique à chaque fois qu'un des fichiers fusionné s'enrichit ?
> > je sais pas si c'est Christian qui est seul au fourneau ou non.
> >
> > - est-il possible d'intégrer ce fichier dans osm ? je pense à 2 étapes
> > différentes : l’enrichissement des stations existantes (qui ne posera
> > pas de problème de qualité de localisation vu que l'info est déjà dans
> > osm) puis la création des bornes manquantes si la localisation du
> > fichier OpenData est satisfaisante.
> >
> > Cordialement,
> > Marc
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Re: [Talk-us] Willoughby, Ohio

[Paul Johnson]

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 3:32 AM, Simon Poole  wrote:

> I've likely done what we can do at this point, as said some on the ground
> information could improve the situation a bit, but I would not suggest a
> non-local mapper driving there just because of that.
>
>
But, wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for someone who is already in the
eastern Cleveland suburbs to wander up that way and work out a more
accurate picture of the ground truth or pull a OpenStreetCam run through
there if possible.
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] bornes de recharge pour VE véhicule électrique

[osm . sanspourriel]

Il va aussi créer des groupes de stations et distinguer le nombre de places et 
le nombre de véhicules pouvant charger en parallèle.
Vu à Lorient : 2 places, lorsqu'on branche la seconde prise, message disant que 
le contrat ne permet pas de charger. Donc il faut attendre que la première 
voiture soit chargée pour que la seconde charge.
La personne va à un emplacement à 3 places. Il se connecte, c'est le second. Ça 
marche.
Arrive un troisième... qui fait tout disjoncter.

Bon, peut-être qu'il suffit de noter quand l'opérateur est Morbihan Énergies...

Jean-Yvon

> Gesendet: Dienstag, 05. Dezember 2017 um 12:57 Uhr
> Von: marc marc - marc_marc_...@hotmail.com
> An: talk-fr 
> Betreff: [OSM-talk-fr] bornes de recharge pour VE véhicule électrique
>
> Bonjour,
> 
> HS-157 sur irc signalait https://avent.data.gouv.fr/2017/04.html
> En résumé, courant 2017 selon les cas,la publication est obligatoire en 
> OpenData. J'ai refais la comparaison que j'avais fait l'an passé :
> ~1000 bornes dans osm en France
> ~2000 bornes dans le fichier OpenData
> ~1 bornes publiques sur ChargeMap (~12000 - ~2000 privés)
> 
> Ce qi m'amène à 2 questions :
> - est-il possible de faire une maj du fichier officiel ? voir en 
> automatique à chaque fois qu'un des fichiers fusionné s'enrichit ?
> je sais pas si c'est Christian qui est seul au fourneau ou non.
> 
> - est-il possible d'intégrer ce fichier dans osm ? je pense à 2 étapes 
> différentes : l’enrichissement des stations existantes (qui ne posera 
> pas de problème de qualité de localisation vu que l'info est déjà dans 
> osm) puis la création des bornes manquantes si la localisation du 
> fichier OpenData est satisfaisante.
> 
> Cordialement,
> Marc
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Re: [Talk-it] nuovo servizio per aiutare a mappare

[Andrea Albani]

Questa è stata appena aggiunta a transifex per la sua traduzione e mi
sembra ancora più fantasmagorica delle altre due che ho già segnalato:

Around the World in Five Minutes

Let's create a changeset with an enourmous bounding box. Map something
first in [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=5/-48.487/-69.895 South
Chile], and then in [https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=6/55.912/159.335
Kamchatka].

Avrà un senso, ma io non l'ho trovato.
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Re: [Talk-it] R: Wayside_shrine

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 6. Dec 2017, at 18:05, Volker Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> Perché sono oggetti con chiaro carattere cristiano (religion=christian), ma 
> non penso che, prendiamo,  un anglicano (denomination=anglican") che passa lì 
> non lo considero un oggetto di culto anche "suo".


non ti saprei dire per gli anglicani, ma un protestante non considerebbe una 
madonna o un santo un oggetto di culto suo (suo nel senso che li vede cattolici 
e quindi cristiani).


Ciao,
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Re: [Talk-it] nuovo servizio per aiutare a mappare

[Andrea Albani]

Ho dato il mio contributo.
Ora le traduzioni sono complete e serve validarle, ma nel team non vedo
reviewers definiti.

Un commento su OSM streak. Il tool mi lascia un po freddino, soprattutto
per l'impostazione "mordi e fuggi" che gli è stata data. Traducendolo
inoltre vedo certi task per gli utenti che mi lasciano un po' perplesso. Ad
esempio questo dal titolo "Una piccola modifica":

"I commenti ai changeset sono importanti. Ma non in questo momento per te:
fai un cambiamento alla mappa e metti "fix" nel campo commento. Solo queste
tre lettere, niente di più."

Una vera e propria istigazione contro la buona pratica di inserire commenti
che abbiano un senso

oppure "Metti a posto un edificio"

Apri [https://tasks.hotosm.org/ HOT Tasking Manager] e scegli un task
attivo a caso. All'interno seleziona un rettangolo giallo e fai una
validazione. Nota come un mappatore principiante mappa gli edifici,
ragionaci su un po', e quindi mettili a posto: raddrizza i lati e migliora
la forma. Un paio bastano.

ovvero, con tutti gli edifici che ci sono mi devo improvvisare validatore
HOT per ortogonalizzarne un paio ?. Non capisco molto l'obiettivo... farmi
conoscere HOT ? boh




2017-12-06 17:53 GMT+01:00 Marco Ciampa :

> On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 05:21:15PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> > Segnalo questo nuovo "servizio" che Vi riccorda ogni giorno di mappare
> > tramite "Telegram" o email. ;-)
> >
> > http://streak.osmz.ru/
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Martin
> >
> >
> >
> > Questo è l'annuncio ufficiale dello sviluppatore Ilya Zverev (in
> inglese),
> > pubblicato il 3/12 in talk:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am Ilya and I have been uploading changesets 15 days in a row. Not
> > because I'm so into it or somebody makes me: I've made a tool that
> reminds
> > me to do it. In a year I expect my HDYC activity chart to be completely
> > filled. And you can have the same too.
> >
> > Introducing OSM Streak: a website that gives you points for submitting
> > changesets each day:
> >
> > http://streak.osmz.ru/
> >
> > You get 1 point for the first changeset, and then you get more: for
> > example, I will receive 4 points for my next changeset tomorrow. And that
> > is not all: it gives you a random task each day, so you don't stare at
> the
> > map trying to come up with an idea. For completing a task, you get an
> extra
> > point. And when you map many days in a row, you gain levels, which open
> > more tasks.
> >
> > Forgetting to visit a website is expectable, so OSM Streak is also a
> > Telegram bot (find the link on the "Connect" page). With the bot, you can
> > forget about the website: it accepts changesets and sends you tasks every
> > day. Alternatively, you can subscribe to e-mail notifications, which will
> > be sent on 1:00 UTC.
> >
> > All the tasks and the website and the bot can (and should!) be translated
> > into your language. We have English and Russian, and I would be very
> > grateful for more translations:
> >
> > https://www.transifex.com/openstreetmap/osm-streak/
> >
> > Have a truly mappy new year,
> > Ilya
>
>
> Ho cominciato a tradurlo in Italiano... chi mi dà una mano?
>
> https://www.transifex.com/openstreetmap/osm-streak/translate/#it
>
> bye
>
> --
>
>
> Marco Ciampa
>
> I know a joke about UDP, but you might not get it.
>
> 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Christmas / New Year Footpath Mapping meet

[SK53]

Link for Doodle poll: https://doodle.com/poll/d2hehkgrv7k7cq4a

Note Saturday 30th may be awkward for me, should learn a bit later this
evening.

Jerry

On 6 December 2017 at 14:58, SK53  wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I'll shortly be sending a link to a Doodle poll to try & select a suitable
> time for a Midlands footpath mapping meeting after Christmas.
>
> In all likelihood, the meeting will be centred on Coton-in-the-Elms in S.
> Derbyshire, a few miles S of Swadlincote and SE of Burton-on-Trent. The
> location is easily accessed from the A42 and A38.
>
> This area is odd: many paths in woodland areas of the National Forest have
> been mapped in great detail, but there are still lots of missing footpaths
> as well as ones missing detail, particularly centred on Coton-in-the-Elms.
> Detail in the village is again very patchy: some shops and schools, but on
> a flying visit yesterday I added 4 pubs.
>
> The main caveat about the area is that most of the pubs are either not
> open at lunchtime or don't do food. The one that does is perfectly
> pleasant, but seems to be under new management and has mixed reviews
> recently (Bulls Head ,
> Rosliston); and unfortunately The Black Horse
>  in Coton-in-the-Elms which
> is in the Good Beer Guide only does filled cobs (sandwich rolls to those
> uninitiated in E. Mids dialect) and may not be open for lunch. So we'll
> probably have to take our chances with the former.
>
> The geology is Mercia Mudstone, and much of it is arable, so likely to be
> muddy and claggy underfoot.
>
> This umap
> 
> shows the status of footpath mapping in the area in August. I'll update it
> shortly & add Warwickshire & Staffordshire paths (extracted from my EMids
> PRoW data).
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry
>
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Re: [Talk-it] R: Wayside_shrine

[Ivo Reano]

Non avevo capito l'osservazione...
Si sono d'accordo che la denominazione religiosa cristiano+cattolica
potrebbe non essere corretta, sempre riferendomi alla zona che mappo "quasi
sempre", se non sempre, è approppriato.
Mi riservo di non applicare il tag per quei piloni così antichi da lasciare
qualche dubbio o quando vi siano presenti elementi per cui vi possano
essere dei dubbi.
Certo che se le immagini presenti o le scritte non lasciano dubbi ci metto
cristiano-cattolico Esempio


Il giorno 6 dicembre 2017 18:14, liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu <
liste.gira...@posteo.eu> ha scritto:

> Il 06/12/2017 17:41, Ivo Reano ha scritto:
>
>> Il giorno 6 dicembre 2017 17:24, Volker Schmidt  ha
>> scritto:
>>
>> La denomination non la metterei.
>>>
>>>
>> Perché no?
>> Chiaramente si mette solo se il pilone ha un nome con cui è conosciuto!
>> Dalle mie parti ci sono alcuni piloni visibili da ben lontano e sono
>> conosciuti con quello che , oserei dire, è il loro nome ("Della Teppa,
>> "San
>> Pancrazio" , "Della Parneri", "Del Merlo", ecc.)
>> Anzi c'è n'è uno che è riportato anche sulle carte IGM (1931) , la
>> "Madonna
>> della Brustià"!
>>
>>
>>
> In questo caso la denomination=* non è per il nome, ma per il tipo di
> contesto religioso.
>
> Di solito in una chiesa consacrata, si mette, religion=chistian e
> denomination=catholic, ovvero per descrivere l'aspetto cristiano cattolico
> + amenity=place_of_worship.
>
> Nel caso dei capitelli/piloni/croci votivi o solo come opere d'arte, ve ne
> sono molti se non tutti cristiani in Italia, ma per cattolico è da vedere,
> perchè ci sono zone/aree dove vi è presenza di altre religioni diverse, che
> magari in passato oppure oggi, mettono cappelle votive/croci a loro modo di
> sentire, per esempio i protestanti.
>
> Io di solito, nel dubbio metto tutti e due i tag, perchè in passato/oggi
> sicuramente qui da me erano/sono per la maggior parte cattolici.
>
>
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Re: [Talk-es] Importación de Catastro

[pcvalverde]

Gran trabajo Javier que en mi opinión ayudará a mejorar mucho OSM sobre todo
el OSM rural.

 

Gracias.

 

Pepe 

 

  _  

De: Javier Sánchez Portero [mailto:javiers...@gmail.com] 
Enviado el: miércoles, 06 de diciembre de 2017 12:57
Para: Discusi, n en Espa, ol de OpenStreetMap
Asunto: [Talk-es] Importación de Catastro

 

Hola.

La propuesta de importación [1] de edificios y direcciones que inició
Gonzálo Pesquero el año pasado sigue adelante.

Ya está casi terminado el programa [2]. Sólo faltan unas pruebas de
funcionamiento en MacOS que espero tener listas la semana que viene.

 

El siguiente paso va a ser validar [3] el proceso de conversión. Van a hacer
falta voluntarios, especialmente para comprobar la precisión respecto a
imágenes aéreas [4].

 

Pero antes, me gustaría animar a todos los interesados a dar un último
repaso a la propuesta de conversión [5] para que esté cerrada antes de
validar el programa. Una vez pasada la validación, hacer cambios importantes
puede significar tener que repetirla.

 

Repasa la propuesta de conversión, ¿se puede mejorar? Prueba a instalar el
programa [4] y convertir algún municipio, ¿qué te parecen los datos?

 

Recuerda siempre que esto es todavía una propuesta y NO SE PUEDE IMPORTAR
NADA, como ya sabemos todos :)

 

Los cambios realizados en la wiki en los últimos meses han sido
principalmente: 

 

* Apartado combinación de datos y correcciones en [1]

* Listado de municipios en [5] y primeros datos proporcionados por el
programa en [4]

* Guía de uso del programa en [2]

 

Un saludo, Javier

 

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.

org/wiki/ES:Catastro_espa%C3%B1ol/Importaci%C3%B3n_de_edificios

 

[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.

org/wiki/ES:Catastro_espa%C3%B1ol/Importaci%C3%B3n_de_edificios/Conversi%C3%
B3n_de_datos#Problemas_encontrados_en_los_datos

 

[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.

org/wiki/ES:Catastro_espa%C3%B1ol/Importaci%C3%B3n_de_edificios/Conversi%C3%
B3n_de_datos#Validaci.C3.B3n_del_proceso_de_conversi.C3.B3n_de_datos

 

[4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.

org/wiki/ES:Catastro_espa%C3%B1ol/Importaci%C3%B3n_de_edificios/Conversi%C3%
B3n_de_datos/Validaci%C3%B3n#Precisi.C3.B3n_respecto_a_im.C3.A1genes_a.C3.A9
reas

 

[5] https://wiki.openstreetmap.

org/wiki/ES:Catastro_español/Importación_de_edificios/Conversión_de_datos

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Re: [Talk-it] mkgmap e file typ

[liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu]

Il 06/12/2017 09:32, demon.box ha scritto:

michele iw1gfv-2 wrote

Dai uno sguardo alla parte di sviluppo di piemontese.altervista.org magari
trovi qualcosa che ti puó essere utile.


ciao, ti ringrazio ma a questo link

http://piemontese.altervista.org/

non trovo nulla, dove intendi di preciso?

grazie

--enrico



Non conosco mkgmap e sto segueno la cosa con un certo interesse.

Però a naso, le icone sono quelle del programma il quale visualizza la 
mappa, e non pervenute/contenute nella mappa, da quel che ho visto sulla 
wiki, il file typ al massimo descrive lo stile della mappa, ma 
l'associazione ai tag/icone avviene mi pare nel software, con le sue 
gerarchie/associazioni.


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Re: [Talk-it] R: Wayside_shrine

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Il 06/12/2017 17:41, Ivo Reano ha scritto:

Il giorno 6 dicembre 2017 17:24, Volker Schmidt  ha
scritto:


La denomination non la metterei.



Perché no?
Chiaramente si mette solo se il pilone ha un nome con cui è conosciuto!
Dalle mie parti ci sono alcuni piloni visibili da ben lontano e sono
conosciuti con quello che , oserei dire, è il loro nome ("Della Teppa, "San
Pancrazio" , "Della Parneri", "Del Merlo", ecc.)
Anzi c'è n'è uno che è riportato anche sulle carte IGM (1931) , la "Madonna
della Brustià"!




In questo caso la denomination=* non è per il nome, ma per il tipo di 
contesto religioso.


Di solito in una chiesa consacrata, si mette, religion=chistian e 
denomination=catholic, ovvero per descrivere l'aspetto cristiano 
cattolico + amenity=place_of_worship.


Nel caso dei capitelli/piloni/croci votivi o solo come opere d'arte, ve 
ne sono molti se non tutti cristiani in Italia, ma per cattolico è da 
vedere, perchè ci sono zone/aree dove vi è presenza di altre religioni 
diverse, che magari in passato oppure oggi, mettono cappelle 
votive/croci a loro modo di sentire, per esempio i protestanti.


Io di solito, nel dubbio metto tutti e due i tag, perchè in passato/oggi 
sicuramente qui da me erano/sono per la maggior parte cattolici.





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Re: [Talk-it] R: Wayside_shrine

[Volker Schmidt]

La denomination non la metterei.
>>
>
> Perché no?
>
Perché sono oggetti con chiaro carattere cristiano (religion=christian), ma
non penso che, prendiamo,  un anglicano (denomination=anglican") che passa
lì non lo considero un oggetto di culto anche "suo".

Chiaramente si mette solo se il pilone ha un nome con cui è conosciuto!
> Dalle mie parti ci sono alcuni piloni visibili da ben lontano e sono
> conosciuti con quello che , oserei dire, è il loro nome ("Della Teppa, "San
> Pancrazio" , "Della Parneri", "Del Merlo", ecc.)
> Anzi c'è n'è uno che è riportato anche sulle carte IGM (1931) , la
> "Madonna della Brustià"!
>

La mia annotazione era solo contro l'inserimento del tag
"denomination=catholic" ("denominazione" in italiano - vedi
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Key:denomination) che non è da
confondere con i tag "name" o "religion")

D'altronde l'argomento non ha grande importanza.
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Re: [Talk-it] Riconoscimento inaspettato

[liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu]

Il 06/12/2017 08:21, Michele Malfatti ha scritto:

Ciao a tutti volevo condividere con la lista il riconoscimento che mi è 
arrivato via mail da hotosm per aver contribuito alla mappatura di Puerto Rico.
Grazie Michele



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Re: [Talk-it] nuovo servizio per aiutare a mappare

[Marco Ciampa]

On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 05:21:15PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Segnalo questo nuovo "servizio" che Vi riccorda ogni giorno di mappare
> tramite "Telegram" o email. ;-)
> 
> http://streak.osmz.ru/
> 
> Ciao,
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> Questo è l'annuncio ufficiale dello sviluppatore Ilya Zverev (in inglese),
> pubblicato il 3/12 in talk:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am Ilya and I have been uploading changesets 15 days in a row. Not
> because I'm so into it or somebody makes me: I've made a tool that reminds
> me to do it. In a year I expect my HDYC activity chart to be completely
> filled. And you can have the same too.
> 
> Introducing OSM Streak: a website that gives you points for submitting
> changesets each day:
> 
> http://streak.osmz.ru/
> 
> You get 1 point for the first changeset, and then you get more: for
> example, I will receive 4 points for my next changeset tomorrow. And that
> is not all: it gives you a random task each day, so you don't stare at the
> map trying to come up with an idea. For completing a task, you get an extra
> point. And when you map many days in a row, you gain levels, which open
> more tasks.
> 
> Forgetting to visit a website is expectable, so OSM Streak is also a
> Telegram bot (find the link on the "Connect" page). With the bot, you can
> forget about the website: it accepts changesets and sends you tasks every
> day. Alternatively, you can subscribe to e-mail notifications, which will
> be sent on 1:00 UTC.
> 
> All the tasks and the website and the bot can (and should!) be translated
> into your language. We have English and Russian, and I would be very
> grateful for more translations:
> 
> https://www.transifex.com/openstreetmap/osm-streak/
> 
> Have a truly mappy new year,
> Ilya


Ho cominciato a tradurlo in Italiano... chi mi dà una mano?

https://www.transifex.com/openstreetmap/osm-streak/translate/#it

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Re: [Talk-it] R: Wayside_shrine

[Ivo Reano]

Il giorno 6 dicembre 2017 17:24, Volker Schmidt  ha
scritto:

> La denomination non la metterei.
>

Perché no?
Chiaramente si mette solo se il pilone ha un nome con cui è conosciuto!
Dalle mie parti ci sono alcuni piloni visibili da ben lontano e sono
conosciuti con quello che , oserei dire, è il loro nome ("Della Teppa, "San
Pancrazio" , "Della Parneri", "Del Merlo", ecc.)
Anzi c'è n'è uno che è riportato anche sulle carte IGM (1931) , la "Madonna
della Brustià"!
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Re: [Talk-it] R: Wayside_shrine

[Volker Schmidt]

La denomination non la metterei.


2017-12-06 17:02 GMT+01:00 Ivo Reano :

> Ho guardato in wikipedia:
>>
>> Capitello votivo= Pilone Votivo
>>
>> Edicola votiva, come dici tu sono inserite in un muro.
>>
>> Esempio:
>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Capitello_Via_Bosco.jpg
>>
>>
>>
>> Per cui se sei d’accordo, tag per pilone o capitello, anche se non si
>> vedono le croci:
>>
>> denomination=catholic
>>
>> historic=wayside_shrine
>>
>> name=Nome
>>
>> religion=christian
>>
>>
>>
>> tag per croce:
>>
>> denomination=catholic
>>
>> historic=wayside_cross
>>
>> name=nome
>>
>> religion=christian
>>
>>
>>
>> Gianfranco Graizzaro
>>
>>
>>
>
> Concordo su questi tag
>
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Re: [Talk-it] R: Wayside_shrine

[Ivo Reano]

>
> Ho guardato in wikipedia:
>
> Capitello votivo= Pilone Votivo
>
> Edicola votiva, come dici tu sono inserite in un muro.
>
> Esempio:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Capitello_Via_Bosco.jpg
>
>
>
> Per cui se sei d’accordo, tag per pilone o capitello, anche se non si
> vedono le croci:
>
> denomination=catholic
>
> historic=wayside_shrine
>
> name=Nome
>
> religion=christian
>
>
>
> tag per croce:
>
> denomination=catholic
>
> historic=wayside_cross
>
> name=nome
>
> religion=christian
>
>
>
> Gianfranco Graizzaro
>
>
>

Concordo su questi tag
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Re: [Talk-cz] Dva ref u rozcestníku

[Jiří Komárek]

Díky za info. Znal jsem to z ostatních tagů, kde tento postup není 
doporučován.



Hlásím tedy hotovo! :-)


On 6.12.2017 13:07, Jan Macura wrote:


2017-12-06 11:54 GMT+01:00 Marián Kyral >:


Ahoj,
co vím, tak oddělit středníkem je správně. Kontrolní skripty se s
tím musí popasovat.
I když to u jiných tagů (sport, shop...) většinou moc nefunguje.


+1

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Re: [Talk-cz] dotaz na značení Skocké stezky

[Michal Pustějovský]

Vepíšeš to do sloupce "Role" v seznamu členů relace. Mám anglickou verzi, nevím, jak je to v české.On Dec 6, 2017 1:49 PM, Zdeněk Pražák  wrote:no josm používám ale nevím jak roli forward navolit v editoru relací
-- Původní e-mail --
Od: Michal Pustějovský 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 6. 12. 2017 13:44:07
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz]
	dotaz na značení Skocké stezky
Ahoj,jednosměrnost se určuje pomocí role v relaci: forward (po směru OSM cesty) a backward (proti směru OSM cesty). Pokud používáš JOSM, tak ten dělá i základní verifikaci v editoru relací.Snad pomůže,Michal.
-- Původní e-mail --
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Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 6. 12. 2017 13:19:11
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz]
	dotaz na značení Skocké stezky
díky a ještě dotaz jak vyznačit, že je pouze značena jednosměrně - ve směru z Teplé do Skoků
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Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz]
 dotaz na značení Skocké stezky

  
Poutní stezky:
  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:pilgrimage
osmc:symbol:
  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:osmc:symbol


podle vzoru
osmc:symbol=waycolor:background[:foreground][[:foreground2]:text:textcolor]


tedy osmc:symbol=white:blue:white_star
případně https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:wiki:symbol


On 6.12.2017 12:48, Zdeněk Pražák
  wrote:

chtěl jsem se
  zeptat, jak mám pomocí symbolů osmc  a KČT otagovat poutní stezku
  (Skocká stezka) vedoucí z kláštera Teplá přes Toužim do poutního
  místa Skoky.
  
  Stezka je značena jednosměrně z kláštera Teplá do Skoků bílou
  mariánskou hvězdou na modrém podkladu viz
  http://www.skoky.eu/clanky/skokovska-stezka/
  
  Zatím jsem ji otagoval jako relaci 6489327 jako místní modrou
  značku
  
  
  
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[Talk-it] R: Wayside_shrine

[Gianfranco Graizzaro]

 

 

Da: Ivo Reano [mailto:reano...@gmail.com] 



>Sono nel dubbio di cosa siano i "capitelli" Mi segnali qualche immagine?

>Io per quello che trovo distinguo i "piloni" che sono delle costruzioni in 
>pietra a secco o cemento o vie di mezzo dalla forma solitamente quadrata con 
>le nicchie più o meno profonde su uno o più lati.

>Esistono nella mia zona alcune "edicole votive", almeno le chiamo così quelle 
>nicchie scavate o naturali entro cui sono poste delle immagini o statuette 
>sacre.

>credo che nella lingua italiana il termine più generico sia "edicola votiva" 
>indipendentemente dalla forma o dal termine più usato che cambia di regione in 
>regione.

 

Ho guardato in wikipedia:

Capitello votivo= Pilone Votivo

Edicola votiva, come dici tu sono inserite in un muro.

Esempio:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Capitello_Via_Bosco.jpg

 

Per cui se sei d’accordo, tag per pilone o capitello, anche se non si vedono le 
croci:

denomination=catholic

historic=wayside_shrine

name=Nome

religion=christian

 

tag per croce:

denomination=catholic

historic=wayside_cross

name=nome

religion=christian

 

Gianfranco Graizzaro

 

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Re: [Talk-de] OSMF-Vorstandswahlen 2017

[Manfred A. Reiter]

Danke für die große Mühe, die Du Dir gemacht hast!

M.

Am 6. Dezember 2017 um 13:35 schrieb Michael Reichert <
osm...@michreichert.de>:

> Hallo,
>
> ich habe gestern Abend im deutschen OSM-Blog einen längeren Beitrag über
> die Kandidaten der diesjährigen Wahlen zum Vorstand der OSMF
> veröffentlicht.
>
> https://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2017/12/wahlen-zum-
> vorstand-der-openstreetmap-foundation-2017-teil-1/
>
> In dem verlinkten ersten Teil fasse ich die Wahlprogramme, die Antworten
> auf Wählerfragen sowie die Kritiker zusammen. Teil 2 des Beitrags ist
> noch nicht fertig und passiert heute Abend hoffentlich die
> Rechtschreibkontrolle [1].
>
> Wer OSMF-Mitglied ist und es 30 Tage vor der Mitgliederversammlung am
> Samstagnachmittag schon war, der möge bitte seine Stimme abgeben. Jede
> Stimme zählt! Ja, wirklich! Es gibt Kandidaten, die z.B. fordern, dass
> Community-Manager eingesetzt werden. Allein der Begriff passt gar nicht
> zu OSM. Ich will keinen Chef, der mir in meinem Hobby sagt, was ich tun
> soll. In einem unfreien Community-Projekt wie Foursquare mag es
> angemessen sein, da man dort die Community bei Laune halten muss. OSM
> sollte aber kein hierarchisches Projekt werden. Mehr dazu in Teil 2.
>
> Viele Grüße
>
> Michael
>
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Re: [Talk-cz] Poslední letošní kvartální pivo Q4/2017

[Jethro]

Dorazím kolem sedmé k Voraři.
MSF
Jethro

2017-12-05 21:59 GMT+01:00 Jan Macura :
> Tak copa plzeňácí? Tentokrát nic?
>
> H.
>
> 2017-12-05 21:56 GMT+01:00 Marián Kyral :
>>
>> Ahoj,
>> tak se nám to blíží, připomínám že kvartální pivko je již zítra.
>>
>> Ostrava se sejde 18:00 v Babylon Café Ostrava
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4592369716
>>
>> I když to podle názvu moc nevypadá, pivo a něco na zub tam mají ;-)
>>
>> Těším se.
>>
>> Marián
>>
>>
>> Dne 22.11.2017 v 07:13 Marián Kyral napsal(a):
>>
>> Ahoj,
>> připomínám kvartální pivko, které bude přesně za dva týdny. Prosím všechny
>> o zapsání. Aktuálně vede Ostrava se třemi potvrzenými účastníky před Brnem
>> (2) a Prahou (1).
>> Přece nás nenecháte vyhrát ;-)
>>
>> Marián
>>
>> -- Původní e-mail --
>> Od: Marián Kyral 
>> Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
>> Datum: 6. 11. 2017 10:06:23
>> Předmět: [Talk-cz] Poslední letošní kvartální pivo Q4/2017
>>
>> Ahoj,
>> poslední letošní kvartální pivo se bude konat přesně za měsíc, ve středu
>> 6.12.
>>
>> Aktualizoval jsem wiki stránku
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Kvart%C3%A1ln%C3%AD_pivo
>>
>> Svou účast prosím potvrďte v google doc tabulce:
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12zGtW414R9se_g_87FdmpHj2B6xO1gf5mG94avTmFb4/edit#gid=150217035
>>
>> Tentokrát se budu snažit, abych byl v Ostravě, tak se to snad po delší
>> době opět podaří.
>>
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Re: [Talk-transit] OSM Public transport tools

[Wiklund Johan]

No, we don't have OSM data in these datasets. We just use OSM to route 
foot-transfers in journeys, and we fetch some POI's.

License is forthcoming :)




Johan Wiklund
Data manager
johan.wikl...@entur.org




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-Original Message-
From: Felix Delattre [mailto:felix-li...@delattre.de]
Sent: onsdag 6. desember 2017 15.18
To: talk-transit@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] OSM Public transport tools

Thanks Johan, for the link. I'm acutally excited to follow the pioneer work you 
are doing in Norway with the NeTEx format. Congratulations!

However, I think we don't need to add this to an OSM wiki page. As far as I 
understand, this data is not obtained from OpenStreetMap, or am I wrong? Is it 
Open Data? I didn't see any license/permission statement anywhere.

Generally (open) sources for GTFS are already nicely published on websites like:

* https://transit.land/feed-registry/
* http://transitfeeds.com/

All the best,
Felix


On 12/05/2017 01:12 PM, Wiklund Johan wrote:
> If you want to list open data sources as well, here is Norway:
> http://www.entur.org/dev/rutedata/
>
>
>
>
>
> Johan Wiklund
> Data manager
> johan.wikl...@entur.org
>
>
>
>
> www.entur.org
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felix Delattre [mailto:felix-li...@delattre.de]
> Sent: tirsdag 5. desember 2017 12.30
> To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics
> 
> Subject: [Talk-transit] OSM Public transport tools
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> Just to let you know about a simple wiki page we created:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport/Tools
>
> It is a recompilation of the tools people are using for handling public 
> transport data and information in OpenStreetMap. From collecting, editing, 
> exporting and using.
>
> Maybe you want to have a look. Hopefully you can help us to improve this page.
>
> Thanks,
> Felix
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[Talk-GB] Christmas / New Year Footpath Mapping meet

[SK53]

Dear All,

I'll shortly be sending a link to a Doodle poll to try & select a suitable
time for a Midlands footpath mapping meeting after Christmas.

In all likelihood, the meeting will be centred on Coton-in-the-Elms in S.
Derbyshire, a few miles S of Swadlincote and SE of Burton-on-Trent. The
location is easily accessed from the A42 and A38.

This area is odd: many paths in woodland areas of the National Forest have
been mapped in great detail, but there are still lots of missing footpaths
as well as ones missing detail, particularly centred on Coton-in-the-Elms.
Detail in the village is again very patchy: some shops and schools, but on
a flying visit yesterday I added 4 pubs.

The main caveat about the area is that most of the pubs are either not open
at lunchtime or don't do food. The one that does is perfectly pleasant, but
seems to be under new management and has mixed reviews recently (Bulls Head
, Rosliston); and
unfortunately The Black Horse 
in Coton-in-the-Elms which is in the Good Beer Guide only does filled cobs
(sandwich rolls to those uninitiated in E. Mids dialect) and may not be
open for lunch. So we'll probably have to take our chances with the former.

The geology is Mercia Mudstone, and much of it is arable, so likely to be
muddy and claggy underfoot.

This umap

shows the status of footpath mapping in the area in August. I'll update it
shortly & add Warwickshire & Staffordshire paths (extracted from my EMids
PRoW data).

Regards,

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Re: [Talk-de] OSMF-Vorstandswahlen 2017

[Ludwig Baumgart]

+1
:Ludwig
On 06.12.2017 13:38, Stefan Keller wrote:

+1
:Stefan

Am 6. Dezember 2017 um 13:35 schrieb Michael Reichert :

Hallo,

ich habe gestern Abend im deutschen OSM-Blog einen längeren Beitrag über
die Kandidaten der diesjährigen Wahlen zum Vorstand der OSMF veröffentlicht.

https://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2017/12/wahlen-zum-vorstand-der-openstreetmap-foundation-2017-teil-1/

In dem verlinkten ersten Teil fasse ich die Wahlprogramme, die Antworten
auf Wählerfragen sowie die Kritiker zusammen. Teil 2 des Beitrags ist
noch nicht fertig und passiert heute Abend hoffentlich die
Rechtschreibkontrolle [1].

Wer OSMF-Mitglied ist und es 30 Tage vor der Mitgliederversammlung am
Samstagnachmittag schon war, der möge bitte seine Stimme abgeben. Jede
Stimme zählt! Ja, wirklich! Es gibt Kandidaten, die z.B. fordern, dass
Community-Manager eingesetzt werden. Allein der Begriff passt gar nicht
zu OSM. Ich will keinen Chef, der mir in meinem Hobby sagt, was ich tun
soll. In einem unfreien Community-Projekt wie Foursquare mag es
angemessen sein, da man dort die Community bei Laune halten muss. OSM
sollte aber kein hierarchisches Projekt werden. Mehr dazu in Teil 2.

Viele Grüße

Michael


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Re: [Talk-transit] OSM Public transport tools

[Felix Delattre]

Thanks Johan, for the link. I'm acutally excited to follow the pioneer
work you are doing in Norway with the NeTEx format. Congratulations!

However, I think we don't need to add this to an OSM wiki page. As far
as I understand, this data is not obtained from OpenStreetMap, or am I
wrong? Is it Open Data? I didn't see any license/permission statement
anywhere.

Generally (open) sources for GTFS are already nicely published on
websites like:

* https://transit.land/feed-registry/
* http://transitfeeds.com/

All the best,
Felix


On 12/05/2017 01:12 PM, Wiklund Johan wrote:
> If you want to list open data sources as well, here is Norway: 
> http://www.entur.org/dev/rutedata/
>
>
>
>
>
> Johan Wiklund
> Data manager 
> johan.wikl...@entur.org
>
>
>
>
> www.entur.org
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felix Delattre [mailto:felix-li...@delattre.de] 
> Sent: tirsdag 5. desember 2017 12.30
> To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics 
> 
> Subject: [Talk-transit] OSM Public transport tools
>
> Hello everybody,
>
> Just to let you know about a simple wiki page we created:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport/Tools
>
> It is a recompilation of the tools people are using for handling public 
> transport data and information in OpenStreetMap. From collecting, editing, 
> exporting and using.
>
> Maybe you want to have a look. Hopefully you can help us to improve this page.
>
> Thanks,
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[OSM-talk-fr] Pokemon Go migre sur OpenStreetMap !

[Cédric Frayssinet]

https://linuxfr.org/users/blink38/journaux/pokemon-go-migre-sur-openstreetmap

Alors bonne ou mauvaise nouvelle ?

Il semblerait que les commentaires soient divergents sous l'article.

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Re: [Talk-it] Riconoscimento inaspettato

[Andreas Lattmann]

Wow! Complimenti!
Una bella pacca virtuale sulla spalla!!
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Re: [Talk-es] Importación de Catastro

[dcapillae]

Hola, Javier.

En primer lugar, agradecerte tu esmerado trabajo. Me gustaría colaborar como
voluntario para comprobar la precisión de las importaciones de edificios si
se hacen ensayos en Málaga.

Personalmente llevo meses mapeando edificios de forma manual, uno a uno. Me
limito a mapear únicamente los contornos exteriores, y así he completado ya
varios distritos de mi ciudad. Mapear edificios manualmente es una tarea
sencilla gracias a la información del Catastro, pero es poco productiva,
consume demasiado tiempo que podríamos estar dedicando a otras cosas.

Me gustaría completar el mapeado completo de edificios de mi ciudad, así que
si se hacen ensayos en Málaga, cuenta conmigo para verificar la precisión de
las importaciones.

Gracias de nuevo por tu trabajo.



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Intégration des toilettes depuis l'Open Data à Paris #IWheelShare

[PanierAvide]

À défaut d'une visite terrain, il y a eu de la part de Florian un 
recalage à partir de l'imagerie aérienne pour les objets visibles, et un 
fixme pour ceux cachés par la verdure (qui peuvent aussi faire l'objet 
d'une vérification par photos via Pic4Carto).


Mais l'idée c'est effectivement de passer sur Osmose pour les prochains 
jeux de données, ce qui assurera de pouvoir vérifier minutieusement et à 
plusieurs l'ajout de ces infos.


Adrien.



Le 06/12/2017 à 14:15, Vincent de Château-Thierry a écrit :
D'accord avec toi JB sur ce point. L'OpenData c'est tentant, c'est à 
portée de main, mais la contrepartie, c'est que ce doit être 
irréprochable ou tout comme. Soit la geoloc est impeccable car 
constatée comme telle par sondage, soit sur le terrain (au mieux), 
soit par confrontation sur les amenity=toilets déjà présentes dans OSM 
(au moins), soit.. on n'importe pas. Pour éviter de voir la base 
devenir un réceptacle à OpenData. La connaissance terrain de chacun.e 
d'entre nous reste un gage de valeur qu'un import ne peut égaler.

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Intégration des toilettes depuis l'Open Data à Paris #IWheelShare

[Vincent de Château-Thierry]

Bonjour,

> De: "JB" 
> 
> Il faut bien un râleur, alors je m'y colle (même si le but est
> louable et tout et tout…).
> Il me semblait que quand chaque objet d'un import contient un fixme,
> c'est que ça ne devrait pas être importé ?

D'accord avec toi JB sur ce point. L'OpenData c'est tentant, c'est à portée de 
main, mais la contrepartie, c'est que ce doit être irréprochable ou tout comme. 
Soit la geoloc est impeccable car constatée comme telle par sondage, soit sur 
le terrain (au mieux), soit par confrontation sur les amenity=toilets déjà 
présentes dans OSM (au moins), soit.. on n'importe pas. Pour éviter de voir la 
base devenir un réceptacle à OpenData. La connaissance terrain de chacun.e 
d'entre nous reste un gage de valeur qu'un import ne peut égaler.

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Re: [Talk-cz] dotaz na značení Skocké stezky

[Zdeněk Pražák]

no josm používám ale nevím jak roli forward navolit v editoru relací
-- Původní e-mail --
Od: Michal Pustějovský 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 6. 12. 2017 13:44:07
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] dotaz na značení Skocké stezky
"Ahoj,

jednosměrnost se určuje pomocí role v relaci: forward (po směru OSM cesty) a
backward (proti směru OSM cesty). Pokud používáš JOSM, tak ten dělá i
základní verifikaci v editoru relací.

Snad pomůže,
Michal.

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Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 6. 12. 2017 13:19:11
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] dotaz na značení Skocké stezky
"díky a ještě dotaz jak vyznačit, že je pouze značena jednosměrně - ve směru
z Teplé do Skoků
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Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 6. 12. 2017 13:05:19
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] dotaz na značení Skocké stezky
"

Poutní stezky: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:pilgrimage
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:pilgrimage)

osmc:symbol: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:osmc:symbol
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:osmc:symbol)




podle vzoru osmc:symbol=waycolor:background[:foreground][[:foreground2]:
text:textcolor]




tedy osmc:symbol=white:blue:white_star

případně https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:wiki:symbol
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:wiki:symbol)



On 6.12.2017 12:48, Zdeněk Pražák wrote:

"chtěl jsem se zeptat, jak mám pomocí symbolů osmc  a KČT otagovat poutní
stezku (Skocká stezka) vedoucí z kláštera Teplá přes Toužim do poutního
místa Skoky.

Stezka je značena jednosměrně z kláštera Teplá do Skoků bílou mariánskou
hvězdou na modrém podkladu viz http://www.skoky.eu/clanky/skokovska-stezka/
(http://www.skoky.eu/clanky/skokovska-stezka/)

Zatím jsem ji otagoval jako relaci 6489327 jako místní modrou značku





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Re: [Talk-cz] dotaz na značení Skocké stezky

[Michal Pustějovský]

Ahoj,

jednosměrnost se určuje pomocí role v relaci: forward (po směru OSM cesty) a
backward (proti směru OSM cesty). Pokud používáš JOSM, tak ten dělá i
základní verifikaci v editoru relací.

Snad pomůže,
Michal.

-- Původní e-mail --
Od: Zdeněk Pražák 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 6. 12. 2017 13:19:11
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] dotaz na značení Skocké stezky
"díky a ještě dotaz jak vyznačit, že je pouze značena jednosměrně - ve směru
z Teplé do Skoků
-- Původní e-mail --
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Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 6. 12. 2017 13:05:19
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] dotaz na značení Skocké stezky
"

Poutní stezky: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:pilgrimage
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:pilgrimage)

osmc:symbol: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:osmc:symbol
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:osmc:symbol)




podle vzoru osmc:symbol=waycolor:background[:foreground][[:foreground2]:
text:textcolor]




tedy osmc:symbol=white:blue:white_star

případně https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:wiki:symbol
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:wiki:symbol)



On 6.12.2017 12:48, Zdeněk Pražák wrote:

"chtěl jsem se zeptat, jak mám pomocí symbolů osmc  a KČT otagovat poutní
stezku (Skocká stezka) vedoucí z kláštera Teplá přes Toužim do poutního
místa Skoky.

Stezka je značena jednosměrně z kláštera Teplá do Skoků bílou mariánskou
hvězdou na modrém podkladu viz http://www.skoky.eu/clanky/skokovska-stezka/
(http://www.skoky.eu/clanky/skokovska-stezka/)

Zatím jsem ji otagoval jako relaci 6489327 jako místní modrou značku





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Re: [Talk-de] OSMF-Vorstandswahlen 2017

[Stefan Keller]

+1
:Stefan

Am 6. Dezember 2017 um 13:35 schrieb Michael Reichert :
> Hallo,
>
> ich habe gestern Abend im deutschen OSM-Blog einen längeren Beitrag über
> die Kandidaten der diesjährigen Wahlen zum Vorstand der OSMF veröffentlicht.
>
> https://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2017/12/wahlen-zum-vorstand-der-openstreetmap-foundation-2017-teil-1/
>
> In dem verlinkten ersten Teil fasse ich die Wahlprogramme, die Antworten
> auf Wählerfragen sowie die Kritiker zusammen. Teil 2 des Beitrags ist
> noch nicht fertig und passiert heute Abend hoffentlich die
> Rechtschreibkontrolle [1].
>
> Wer OSMF-Mitglied ist und es 30 Tage vor der Mitgliederversammlung am
> Samstagnachmittag schon war, der möge bitte seine Stimme abgeben. Jede
> Stimme zählt! Ja, wirklich! Es gibt Kandidaten, die z.B. fordern, dass
> Community-Manager eingesetzt werden. Allein der Begriff passt gar nicht
> zu OSM. Ich will keinen Chef, der mir in meinem Hobby sagt, was ich tun
> soll. In einem unfreien Community-Projekt wie Foursquare mag es
> angemessen sein, da man dort die Community bei Laune halten muss. OSM
> sollte aber kein hierarchisches Projekt werden. Mehr dazu in Teil 2.
>
> Viele Grüße
>
> Michael
>
>
> [1] Wer sich als einmaliger Lektor melden möchte, ohne sich zu
> irgendeiner Wochennotiz-Mitarbeit zu verpflichten, kann sich einfach bei
> mir per Mail melden.
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[Talk-de] OSMF-Vorstandswahlen 2017

[Michael Reichert]

Hallo,

ich habe gestern Abend im deutschen OSM-Blog einen längeren Beitrag über
die Kandidaten der diesjährigen Wahlen zum Vorstand der OSMF veröffentlicht.

https://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2017/12/wahlen-zum-vorstand-der-openstreetmap-foundation-2017-teil-1/

In dem verlinkten ersten Teil fasse ich die Wahlprogramme, die Antworten
auf Wählerfragen sowie die Kritiker zusammen. Teil 2 des Beitrags ist
noch nicht fertig und passiert heute Abend hoffentlich die
Rechtschreibkontrolle [1].

Wer OSMF-Mitglied ist und es 30 Tage vor der Mitgliederversammlung am
Samstagnachmittag schon war, der möge bitte seine Stimme abgeben. Jede
Stimme zählt! Ja, wirklich! Es gibt Kandidaten, die z.B. fordern, dass
Community-Manager eingesetzt werden. Allein der Begriff passt gar nicht
zu OSM. Ich will keinen Chef, der mir in meinem Hobby sagt, was ich tun
soll. In einem unfreien Community-Projekt wie Foursquare mag es
angemessen sein, da man dort die Community bei Laune halten muss. OSM
sollte aber kein hierarchisches Projekt werden. Mehr dazu in Teil 2.

Viele Grüße

Michael


[1] Wer sich als einmaliger Lektor melden möchte, ohne sich zu
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Re: [Talk-cz] dotaz na značení Skocké stezky

[Zdeněk Pražák]

díky a ještě dotaz jak vyznačit, že je pouze značena jednosměrně - ve směru
z Teplé do Skoků
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Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] dotaz na značení Skocké stezky
"

Poutní stezky: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:pilgrimage
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:pilgrimage)

osmc:symbol: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:osmc:symbol
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:osmc:symbol)




podle vzoru osmc:symbol=waycolor:background[:foreground][[:foreground2]:
text:textcolor]




tedy osmc:symbol=white:blue:white_star

případně https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:wiki:symbol
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:wiki:symbol)



On 6.12.2017 12:48, Zdeněk Pražák wrote:

"chtěl jsem se zeptat, jak mám pomocí symbolů osmc  a KČT otagovat poutní
stezku (Skocká stezka) vedoucí z kláštera Teplá přes Toužim do poutního
místa Skoky.

Stezka je značena jednosměrně z kláštera Teplá do Skoků bílou mariánskou
hvězdou na modrém podkladu viz http://www.skoky.eu/clanky/skokovska-stezka/
(http://www.skoky.eu/clanky/skokovska-stezka/)

Zatím jsem ji otagoval jako relaci 6489327 jako místní modrou značku





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Re: [Talk-cz] Dva ref u rozcestníku

[Jan Macura]

2017-12-06 11:54 GMT+01:00 Marián Kyral :

> Ahoj,
> co vím, tak oddělit středníkem je správně. Kontrolní skripty se s tím musí
> popasovat.
> I když to u jiných tagů (sport, shop...) většinou moc nefunguje.
>

+1

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Re: [Talk-dk] nominatim

[Anders]

På Wed, 06 Dec 2017 12:56:27 +0100
Michael Andersen  skrev:
> Bemærk at Nominatim er et opensource værktøj og at man frit kan
> installere sin egen instans:
> http://nominatim.org/release-docs/latest/Installation. Hvis man
> f.eks. vil eksperimentere lidt med opsætning osv i forsøg på at få
> resultater der giver bedre mening i vores del af verden, kunne det
> måske være en god ide (jeg ser også underlige resultater herovre i
> Sønderjylland).

Det kunne måske være en ide. Jeg har ikke kunnet finde et eneste helt
meningsfuldt resultat i dk, af to grunde hovedsagelig: Støj fra små
steder som "hamlet" og "isolatet_dwelling" som synes at være medtaget
i alle adresser, og det manglende navn på postdistriktet.

Vh,
Anders

> On onsdag den 6. december 2017 12.40.15 CET Anders wrote:
> > Jeg har tilføjet dk templates på siden - men har ingen anelse om de
> > vil blive brugt. Siden er sidst redigeret for nogle år siden, så
> > jeg er ikke så optimistisk :\
> > 
> > På Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:16:02 +0100
> > 
> > Ole Laursen  skrev:  
> > > 2017-12-05 23:09 GMT+01:00 Anders :  
> > > > På Tue, 5 Dec 2017 22:53:56 +0100
> > > > 
> > > > Anders  skrev:  
> > > >> Jeg har kigget på denne liste over skabeloner til
> > > >> adressegeneration, og konkluderet at det faktisk ikke er
> > > >> muligt at lave en skabelon der virker for danske adresser,
> > > >> hvis de data nominatim kombinerer fra er hvad der er.  
> > > > 
> > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Country_Address_Format  
> > > 
> > > Jeg synes du skulle prøve at tilpasse dem så godt som muligt og så
> > > skrive til dem der har lavet Nominatim om de resterende
> > > problemer. Jeg tænker vi alle har en fælles interesse i at de
> > > bliver løst, og der skal måske ikke tilpasses meget andet end
> > > nogle få linjer kode.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ole  
> > 
> > ---
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Re: [Talk-cz] dotaz na značení Skocké stezky

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Poutní stezky: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:pilgrimage

osmc:symbol: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:osmc:symbol


podle vzoru 
osmc:symbol=waycolor:background[:foreground][[:foreground2]:text:textcolor]



tedy osmc:symbol=white:blue:white_star

případně https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:wiki:symbol


On 6.12.2017 12:48, Zdeněk Pražák wrote:
chtěl jsem se zeptat, jak mám pomocí symbolů osmc  a KČT otagovat 
poutní stezku (Skocká stezka) vedoucí z kláštera Teplá přes Toužim do 
poutního místa Skoky.


Stezka je značena jednosměrně z kláštera Teplá do Skoků bílou 
mariánskou hvězdou na modrém podkladu viz 
http://www.skoky.eu/clanky/skokovska-stezka/


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[Talk-es] Importación de Catastro

[Javier Sánchez Portero]

Hola.

La propuesta de importación [1] de edificios y direcciones que inició
Gonzálo Pesquero el año pasado sigue adelante.

Ya está casi terminado el programa [2]. Sólo faltan unas pruebas de
funcionamiento en MacOS que espero tener listas la semana que viene.

El siguiente paso va a ser validar [3] el proceso de conversión. Van a
hacer falta voluntarios, especialmente para comprobar la precisión respecto
a imágenes aéreas [4].

Pero antes, me gustaría animar a todos los interesados a dar un último
repaso a la propuesta de conversión [5] para que esté cerrada antes de
validar el programa. Una vez pasada la validación, hacer cambios
importantes puede significar tener que repetirla.

Repasa la propuesta de conversión, ¿se puede mejorar? Prueba a instalar el
programa [4] y convertir algún municipio, ¿qué te parecen los datos?

Recuerda siempre que esto es todavía una propuesta y NO SE PUEDE IMPORTAR
NADA, como ya sabemos todos :)

Los cambios realizados en la wiki en los últimos meses han sido
principalmente:

* Apartado combinación de datos y correcciones en [1]
* Listado de municipios en [5] y primeros datos proporcionados por el
programa en [4]
* Guía de uso del programa en [2]

Un saludo, Javier

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Catastro_espa%C3%
B1ol/Importaci%C3%B3n_de_edificios

[2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Catastro_espa%C3%
B1ol/Importaci%C3%B3n_de_edificios/Conversi%C3%B3n_de_
datos#Problemas_encontrados_en_los_datos

[3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Catastro_espa%C3%
B1ol/Importaci%C3%B3n_de_edificios/Conversi%C3%B3n_de_
datos#Validaci.C3.B3n_del_proceso_de_conversi.C3.B3n_de_datos

[4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Catastro_espa%C3%
B1ol/Importaci%C3%B3n_de_edificios/Conversi%C3%B3n_de_
datos/Validaci%C3%B3n#Precisi.C3.B3n_respecto_a_im.C3.A1genes_a.C3.A9reas

[5] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Catastro_español/
Importación_de_edificios/Conversión_de_datos
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Re: [Talk-dk] nominatim

[Michael Andersen]

Bemærk at Nominatim er et opensource værktøj og at man frit kan installere sin 
egen instans: http://nominatim.org/release-docs/latest/Installation.
Hvis man f.eks. vil eksperimentere lidt med opsætning osv i forsøg på at få 
resultater der giver bedre mening i vores del af verden, kunne det måske være 
en god ide (jeg ser også underlige resultater herovre i Sønderjylland).

On onsdag den 6. december 2017 12.40.15 CET Anders wrote:
> Jeg har tilføjet dk templates på siden - men har ingen anelse om de vil
> blive brugt. Siden er sidst redigeret for nogle år siden, så jeg er
> ikke så optimistisk :\
> 
> På Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:16:02 +0100
> 
> Ole Laursen  skrev:
> > 2017-12-05 23:09 GMT+01:00 Anders :
> > > På Tue, 5 Dec 2017 22:53:56 +0100
> > > 
> > > Anders  skrev:
> > >> Jeg har kigget på denne liste over skabeloner til
> > >> adressegeneration, og konkluderet at det faktisk ikke er muligt at
> > >> lave en skabelon der virker for danske adresser, hvis de data
> > >> nominatim kombinerer fra er hvad der er.
> > > 
> > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Country_Address_Format
> > 
> > Jeg synes du skulle prøve at tilpasse dem så godt som muligt og så
> > skrive til dem der har lavet Nominatim om de resterende problemer. Jeg
> > tænker vi alle har en fælles interesse i at de bliver løst, og der
> > skal måske ikke tilpasses meget andet end nogle få linjer kode.
> > 
> > 
> > Ole
> 
> ---
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> 
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Intégration des toilettes depuis l'Open Data à Paris #IWheelShare

[Éric Gillet]

Le 6 décembre 2017 à 12:27, JB  a écrit :
>
> PS : access=yes, c'était vraiment nécessaire ?
>

Oui à mon avis, pour distinguer des toilettes privées de restaurant par
exemple.
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[Talk-cz] dotaz na značení Skocké stezky

[Zdeněk Pražák]

chtěl jsem se zeptat, jak mám pomocí symbolů osmc  a KČT otagovat poutní
stezku (Skocká stezka) vedoucí z kláštera Teplá přes Toužim do poutního
místa Skoky.

Stezka je značena jednosměrně z kláštera Teplá do Skoků bílou mariánskou
hvězdou na modrém podkladu viz http://www.skoky.eu/clanky/skokovska-stezka/

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[Talk-dk] OSM streak

[Michael Andersen]

Hej alle

For folk der er til "gamification" har en af vores meget aktive udviklere for 
kort tid siden lavet en lille hjemmeside der kort sagt giver point for at 
redigere OSM en lille smule hver dag: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/
pipermail/talk/2017-December/079823.html.
Jeg tænkte der måske var nogle enkelte her på listen der kunne have glæde af 
det.

God fornøjelse

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Re: [Talk-dk] nominatim

[Anders]

Jeg har tilføjet dk templates på siden - men har ingen anelse om de vil
blive brugt. Siden er sidst redigeret for nogle år siden, så jeg er
ikke så optimistisk :\

På Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:16:02 +0100
Ole Laursen  skrev:
> 2017-12-05 23:09 GMT+01:00 Anders :
> > På Tue, 5 Dec 2017 22:53:56 +0100
> > Anders  skrev:  
> >> Jeg har kigget på denne liste over skabeloner til
> >> adressegeneration, og konkluderet at det faktisk ikke er muligt at
> >> lave en skabelon der virker for danske adresser, hvis de data
> >> nominatim kombinerer fra er hvad der er.  
> >
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Country_Address_Format  
> 
> Jeg synes du skulle prøve at tilpasse dem så godt som muligt og så
> skrive til dem der har lavet Nominatim om de resterende problemer. Jeg
> tænker vi alle har en fælles interesse i at de bliver løst, og der
> skal måske ikke tilpasses meget andet end nogle få linjer kode.
> 
> 
> Ole

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Intégration des toilettes depuis l'Open Data à Paris #IWheelShare

[JB]

Salut,
Il faut bien un râleur, alors je m'y colle (même si le but est louable 
et tout et tout…).
Il me semblait que quand chaque objet d'un import contient un fixme, 
c'est que ça ne devrait pas être importé ?

Avec entre-autres options :
 - quelqu'un s'y colle pour faire le tour avec un vélo (d'autres l'ont 
fait pour d'autres objets, je ne vise pas l'auteur du message), c'est 
l'histoire d'une demi-journée, une journée ? (vu qu'il semble y avoir de 
l'argent dans le projet, ça ne me semble pas exagéré de le demander).

 - une voie de service du coté d'Osmose.
JB.

PS : access=yes, c'était vraiment nécessaire ?

Le 06/12/2017 à 11:53, Florian LAINEZ a écrit :

Hello,
Adrien et moi travaillons pour I Wheel Share à intégrer les toilettes 
issues des données Open Data de Paris dans OSM.
On a trouvé 48 toilettes non-intégrées, sur le critère qu'il n'existe 
pas de toilettes dans OSM à moins de 20m.
Le résultat est ici : 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/54397052#map=13/48.8627/2.3288


avec un joyeux usage des tags suivants :
access=yes
amenity=toilets
drinking_water=yes
fee=no
female=yes
male=yes
note=intégré pour @I Wheel Share depuis les données Open Data de la 
mairie de Paris

operator=JC Decaux
source=https://opendata.paris.fr/explore/dataset/sanisettesparis2011
toilets:disposal=flush
toilets:position=seated
wheelchair=yes
fixme=vérifier la position exacte sur le terrain
opening_hours=*

Vos retours sont bienvenus.
Nous étudions actuellement sur une méthode pour industrialiser ce 
process pour la France entière, on vous en parle bientôt ...



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Re: [Talk-it] Wayside_shrine

[Ivo Reano]

> Allora suggerisci di usare wayside cross per capitelli e cappelle, anche se
> non è corretto?
>
> Graizzaro Gianfranco
>

Non credo volesse dire questo.
wayside_cross sono proprio delle croci in legno, in Italia credo di averne
vista qualcuna in Valle d'Aosta e in Trentino, Svizzera e Germania.
Sono un simbolo di devozione e non sono un luogo di culto.

Sono nel dubbio di cosa siano i "capitelli" Mi segnali qualche immagine?
Io per quello che trovo distinguo i "piloni" che sono delle costruzioni in
pietra a secco o cemento o vie di mezzo dalla forma solitamente quadrata
con le nicchie più o meno profonde su uno o più lati.
Esistono nella mia zona alcune "edicole votive", almeno le chiamo così
quelle nicchie scavate o naturali entro cui sono poste delle immagini o
statuette sacre.
credo che nella lingua italiana il termine più generico sia "edicola
votiva" indipendentemente dalla forma o dal termine più usato che cambia di
regione in regione.
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Re: [Talk-ee] kaart.maakaart masina lõpp

[Jaak Laineste]

Jah, skypesin ja emailisin Sulev Õitspuu-iga sealt, aga pärast seda oli vaikus 
:( Ma sain aru et nad peavad selle siis Datelilt tellima (kui nad ikka tahavad 
üldse seda teha), ja kes teab mis aastal veel see protseduur valmis võiks saada.

Konkreetne teenus oli ortopilt tiledena, et osm editoris näiteks toimiks? 
Põhimõtteliselt võib ju proovida seda mapproxy-t kusagile virtuaalmasina 
kettanurgale installida; kasvõi zone-sse. Ja püüda sama URL teha nagu vana oli, 
et OSM editor hakkaks jälle toimima.

Jaak

> On 6 Dec 2017, at 13:02, Tormi Tabor  wrote:
> 
> Jaak, kas suhtlesid sel teemal Maa-ametiga? Mul oleks seda hädasti vaja.
> 
> Tervitades,
> Tormi Tabor
> 5451 3000
> 
> 17. november 2017 11:16 kirjutas Tormi Tabor  >:
> > Kiusan pisut Maaameti inimesi, et nad oma teenuse teeksid OSM editoriga 
> > ühilduvaks. 
> 
> +1. Olen Tanel Hurdaga sel teemal 2014 suhelnud, toona oli vastus "WGS84 tuge 
> TMS-ile ei ole lähiajal oodata."
> 
> Tervitades,
> Tormi Tabor
> 5451 3000 
> 
> 17. november 2017 11:03 kirjutas Jaak Laineste  >:
> 
> Mida täpselt sealt kasutasid? Kui vaja tõesti, tekitaks otsast samanimelise 
> tänapäevase virtuaali, ma oletan et koormus pole kõrge ja saab väiksema 
> ressursiga hakkama.
> 
> On see 
> http://kaart.maakaart.ee/tiles/1.0.0/osm_EPSG900913/${z}/${x}/${y}.png?origin=nw
>  
> 
>   - MapProxy-põhine WMS->cached tile teenus? 
> 
> Kiusan pisut Maaameti inimesi, et nad oma teenuse teeksid OSM editoriga 
> ühilduvaks. Seni tundub et nende tiled on vaid Eesti projektsioonis jätkuvalt.
> 
> 
> Jaak
> 
>> On 16 Nov 2017, at 16:49, Mihkel Oviir > > wrote:
>> 
>> ää, ja ka osm'i muutmise jaoks tehtud maa-ameti orto?
>> 
>> 16. november 2017 16:47 kirjutas Mihkel Oviir > >:
>> Seega Eestikeelne maakaart on ajalugu? Kahju, oli mul ühes kohas kasutusel...
>> 
>> 16. november 2017 15:49 kirjutas Jaak Laineste > >:
>> Hoi,
>> 
>> Tartu LV informaatikute palvel sai toodud nende juurest maakaardi server ära 
>> (http://www.maakaart.ee/index.php/kasutamine/kaartmaakaartee 
>> ), ja vedasin 
>> ta enda töö kontorisse (Tartu Raeplatsil samuti). Moraalselt on see ligi 
>> 6-aastane Supermicro kast vananenud tänaseks - on hulk HDD kettaid (osad 
>> isegi SAS, teised SATA), mälu mida ei saa laiendada jne, vaata detaile 
>> https://github.com/osmee/maakaart-ee/blob/master/notes/Silja_riistvara.wiki.md
>>  
>> .
>>  Füüsiliselt kestaks iseenesest veel mõned aastad.
>> 
>> Käima enam ei pannud, sest selle võrku taasühendamine on päris palju 
>> jändamist. Kui seal on mõni teenus, mida tõesti on vaja ja mujalt ei leia, 
>> siis tõenäoliselt on lihtsam kasutada mõnda odavat virtuaalpakkujat, ja 
>> sinna panna värske tarkvara ja andmed; vanal masinal kasvõi elektrikulu 
>> tuleb suurem. 
>> 
>> Kui on kellelgi vajadust või hea mõte mida “vanarauaga” teha, andke teada. 
>> Lisaks on Juniper-i SRX100 riistvaraline tulemüür/ruuter, mille moraalne 
>> olukord on sarnane.
>> 
>> Jaak
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Re: [Talk-ee] kaart.maakaart masina lõpp

[Tormi Tabor]

Jaak, kas suhtlesid sel teemal Maa-ametiga? Mul oleks seda hädasti vaja.

Tervitades,
Tormi Tabor
5451 3000

17. november 2017 11:16 kirjutas Tormi Tabor :

> > Kiusan pisut Maaameti inimesi, et nad oma teenuse teeksid OSM editoriga
> ühilduvaks.
>
> +1. Olen Tanel Hurdaga sel teemal 2014 suhelnud, toona oli vastus "WGS84
> tuge TMS-ile ei ole lähiajal oodata."
>
> Tervitades,
> Tormi Tabor
> 5451 3000
>
> 17. november 2017 11:03 kirjutas Jaak Laineste :
>
>>
>> Mida täpselt sealt kasutasid? Kui vaja tõesti, tekitaks otsast
>> samanimelise tänapäevase virtuaali, ma oletan et koormus pole kõrge ja saab
>> väiksema ressursiga hakkama.
>>
>> On see http://kaart.maakaart.ee/tiles/1.0.0/osm_EPSG900913/${z}
>> /${x}/${y}.png?origin=nw  - MapProxy-põhine WMS->cached tile teenus?
>>
>> Kiusan pisut Maaameti inimesi, et nad oma teenuse teeksid OSM editoriga
>> ühilduvaks. Seni tundub et nende tiled on vaid Eesti projektsioonis
>> jätkuvalt.
>>
>>
>> Jaak
>>
>> On 16 Nov 2017, at 16:49, Mihkel Oviir  wrote:
>>
>> ää, ja ka osm'i muutmise jaoks tehtud maa-ameti orto?
>>
>> 16. november 2017 16:47 kirjutas Mihkel Oviir :
>>
>>> Seega Eestikeelne maakaart on ajalugu? Kahju, oli mul ühes kohas
>>> kasutusel...
>>>
>>> 16. november 2017 15:49 kirjutas Jaak Laineste :
>>>
 Hoi,

 Tartu LV informaatikute palvel sai toodud nende juurest maakaardi
 server ära (http://www.maakaart.ee/index.php/kasutamine/kaartmaakaartee),
 ja vedasin ta enda töö kontorisse (Tartu Raeplatsil samuti). Moraalselt on
 see ligi 6-aastane Supermicro kast vananenud tänaseks - on hulk HDD kettaid
 (osad isegi SAS, teised SATA), mälu mida ei saa laiendada jne, vaata
 detaile https://github.com/osmee/maakaart-ee/blob/master/not
 es/Silja_riistvara.wiki.md. Füüsiliselt kestaks iseenesest veel mõned
 aastad.

 Käima enam ei pannud, sest selle võrku taasühendamine on päris palju
 jändamist. Kui seal on mõni teenus, mida tõesti on vaja ja mujalt ei leia,
 siis tõenäoliselt on lihtsam kasutada mõnda odavat virtuaalpakkujat, ja
 sinna panna värske tarkvara ja andmed; vanal masinal kasvõi elektrikulu
 tuleb suurem.

 Kui on kellelgi vajadust või hea mõte mida “vanarauaga” teha, andke
 teada. Lisaks on Juniper-i SRX100 riistvaraline tulemüür/ruuter, mille
 moraalne olukord on sarnane.

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[Talk-it] Wayside_shrine

[Gianfranco Graizzaro]

[Talk-it] Wayside_shrine
Volker Schmidt voschix a gmail.com 
Mer 6 Dic 2017 08:33:19 UTC

>Il wayside cross viene renderizzato con una piccola croce. Esempio:
>http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2555424719

Allora suggerisci di usare wayside cross per capitelli e cappelle, anche se
non è corretto?

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Re: [Talk-cz] Dva ref u rozcestníku

[Marián Kyral]

Ahoj,
co vím, tak oddělit středníkem je správně. Kontrolní skripty se s tím musí
popasovat.
I když to u jiných tagů (sport, shop...) většinou moc nefunguje.

Marián

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Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 6. 12. 2017 11:47:41
Předmět: [Talk-cz] Dva ref u rozcestníku
"Ahojte,


mám problém s rozcestníkem, který má dvě referenční čísla:
https://api.openstreetmap.cz/img/guidepost/DSC_1117.jpg

Nejedná se o starý a nový systém, ale o dva nové: BL651 a TS105. Zatímco
BL651 je jak na červené, tak i na rozcestníku nahoře, TS105 je novější
(byl přidán v roce 2016, BL651 v roce 2010).


Co s tím? Napadlo mne několik řešení, ale všechna jsou z nějakého důvodu
špatně:

- jedno referenční číslo vynechat (to je špatně, neboť tím ztrácíme
informaci, která v reálu existuje)

- dát do ref oboje a oddělit je čárkou či středníkem (to je špatně,
neboť to nepůjde automaticky kontrolovat)

- vytvořit dva rozcestníky vedle sebe (to je špatně, neboť se jedná v
reálu o jeden jediný rozcestník)


Jirka


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[OSM-talk-fr] Intégration des toilettes depuis l'Open Data à Paris #IWheelShare

[Florian LAINEZ]

Hello,
Adrien et moi travaillons pour I Wheel Share à intégrer les toilettes
issues des données Open Data de Paris dans OSM.
On a trouvé 48 toilettes non-intégrées, sur le critère qu'il n'existe pas
de toilettes dans OSM à moins de 20m.
Le résultat est ici :
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/54397052#map=13/48.8627/2.3288

avec un joyeux usage des tags suivants :
access=yes
amenity=toilets
drinking_water=yes
fee=no
female=yes
male=yes
note=intégré pour @I Wheel Share depuis les données Open Data de la mairie
de Paris
operator=JC Decaux
source=https://opendata.paris.fr/explore/dataset/sanisettesparis2011
toilets:disposal=flush
toilets:position=seated
wheelchair=yes
fixme=vérifier la position exacte sur le terrain
opening_hours=*

Vos retours sont bienvenus.
Nous étudions actuellement sur une méthode pour industrialiser ce process
pour la France entière, on vous en parle bientôt ...


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[Talk-cz] Dva ref u rozcestníku

[Jiří Komárek]

Ahojte,


mám problém s rozcestníkem, který má dvě referenční čísla: 
https://api.openstreetmap.cz/img/guidepost/DSC_1117.jpg


Nejedná se o starý a nový systém, ale o dva nové: BL651 a TS105. Zatímco 
BL651 je jak na červené, tak i na rozcestníku nahoře, TS105 je novější 
(byl přidán v roce 2016, BL651 v roce 2010).



Co s tím? Napadlo mne několik řešení, ale všechna jsou z nějakého důvodu 
špatně:


- jedno referenční číslo vynechat (to je špatně, neboť tím ztrácíme 
informaci, která v reálu existuje)


- dát do ref oboje a oddělit je čárkou či středníkem (to je špatně, 
neboť to nepůjde automaticky kontrolovat)


- vytvořit dva rozcestníky vedle sebe (to je špatně, neboť se jedná v 
reálu o jeden jediný rozcestník)



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Re: [Talk-it] Elezione membri OSMF

[Marco Minghini]

> state seguendo la (le) discussione in osmf-talk ?
>

purtroppo non ho così tanto tempo, dopo le prime mail accusatorie verso HOT
ho deciso di fermarmi :)

>
> Avete già scelto per chi votare?
>

Ho avuto a che fare in passato con due dei quattro candidati, ma ho cercato
di votare in base ai programmi che hanno proposto.

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Re: [Talk-dk] nominatim

[Anders]

På Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:16:02 +0100
Ole Laursen  skrev:
> 2017-12-05 23:09 GMT+01:00 Anders :
> > På Tue, 5 Dec 2017 22:53:56 +0100
> > Anders  skrev:  
> >> Jeg har kigget på denne liste over skabeloner til
> >> adressegeneration, og konkluderet at det faktisk ikke er muligt at
> >> lave en skabelon der virker for danske adresser, hvis de data
> >> nominatim kombinerer fra er hvad der er.  
> >
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Country_Address_Format  
> 
> Jeg synes du skulle prøve at tilpasse dem så godt som muligt og så
> skrive til dem der har lavet Nominatim om de resterende problemer. Jeg
> tænker vi alle har en fælles interesse i at de bliver løst, og der
> skal måske ikke tilpasses meget andet end nogle få linjer kode.

Hej Ole, jeg er faktisk gået i gang med det så småt, så jeg prøver at
finde ud af om det system bliver brugt i alt fald.

Der mangler i mine øjne stadig oplysninger om postdistriktets navn i de
data nominatim leverer. Jeg kan ikke se en sammenhæng, og ofte mangler
dataen.

---
Vh,
Anders

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[Marco Minghini]

Bravo Michele!

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Re: [Talk-dk] nominatim

[Ole Laursen]

2017-12-05 23:09 GMT+01:00 Anders :
> På Tue, 5 Dec 2017 22:53:56 +0100
> Anders  skrev:
>> Jeg har kigget på denne liste over skabeloner til adressegeneration,
>> og konkluderet at det faktisk ikke er muligt at lave en skabelon der
>> virker for danske adresser, hvis de data nominatim kombinerer fra er
>> hvad der er.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Country_Address_Format

Jeg synes du skulle prøve at tilpasse dem så godt som muligt og så
skrive til dem der har lavet Nominatim om de resterende problemer. Jeg
tænker vi alle har en fælles interesse i at de bliver løst, og der
skal måske ikke tilpasses meget andet end nogle få linjer kode.


Ole

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Re: [Talk-it] Riconoscimento inaspettato

[Francesco Pelullo]

Bravo!

Ciao
/niubii/
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Re: [Talk-it] Elezione membri OSMF

[Francesco Pelullo]

Il 06 dic 2017 9:32 AM, "Cristiano Giovando"  ha scritto:


Invito tutti coloro che vogliono/possono votare ad informarsi, leggere
i programmi dei candidati ed evitare di fare una scelta solo leggendo
messaggi come quelli di Martin ...o il mio :)


Certo, alla fine ciascuno voterà/ha votato con la propria testa.

Rimane l'amarezza di una elezione in cui un candidato costruisce il proprio
programma sulle accuse (fondate o no) verso altri, mentre altri tre
dichiarano che si impegneranno per "...la pace nel mondo...".

Se noi italiani avessimo la stessa mentalità dei nostri politici, (mi
riferisco alla comunità OSM italiana), oltre ad esserci candidati tutti
:-), avremmo già individuato il candidato più rappresentativo per la
comunità e dato indicazioni su come votare compatti per eleggerlo.

Ciao
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Re: [Talk-it] [Talk-it-trentino] Riconoscimento inaspettato

[Michele Malfatti]

Ciao si il mio account su twitter è @mich74.
Grazie

Il giorno 6 dicembre 2017 09:47, Maurizio Napolitano 
ha scritto:

> Grande Michele
> Qui il messaggio twitter originale
> https://twitter.com/hotosm/status/938075511183458304
>
> ... in modo che così lo si diffonde :)
>
> @michele
> se non erro il tuo nickname su twitter è @mich74
> https://twitter.com/mich74
> Giusto?
>
>
> 2017-12-06 8:21 GMT+01:00 Michele Malfatti :
> > Ciao a tutti volevo condividere con la lista il riconoscimento che mi è
> arrivato via mail da hotosm per aver contribuito alla mappatura di Puerto
> Rico.
> > Grazie Michele
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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[Maurizio Napolitano]

Grande Michele
Qui il messaggio twitter originale
https://twitter.com/hotosm/status/938075511183458304

... in modo che così lo si diffonde :)

@michele
se non erro il tuo nickname su twitter è @mich74
https://twitter.com/mich74
Giusto?


2017-12-06 8:21 GMT+01:00 Michele Malfatti :
> Ciao a tutti volevo condividere con la lista il riconoscimento che mi è 
> arrivato via mail da hotosm per aver contribuito alla mappatura di Puerto 
> Rico.
> Grazie Michele
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-it-trentino] [Talk-it] Riconoscimento inaspettato

[Maurizio Napolitano]

Grande Michele
Qui il messaggio twitter originale
https://twitter.com/hotosm/status/938075511183458304

... in modo che così lo si diffonde :)

@michele
se non erro il tuo nickname su twitter è @mich74
https://twitter.com/mich74
Giusto?


2017-12-06 8:21 GMT+01:00 Michele Malfatti :
> Ciao a tutti volevo condividere con la lista il riconoscimento che mi è 
> arrivato via mail da hotosm per aver contribuito alla mappatura di Puerto 
> Rico.
> Grazie Michele
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Riconoscimento inaspettato

[Marco Ciampa]

On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 08:21:01AM +0100, Michele Malfatti wrote:

> Ciao a tutti volevo condividere con la lista il riconoscimento che mi è
> arrivato via mail da hotosm per aver contribuito alla mappatura di Puerto
> Rico.
> Grazie Michele 

Solo per tua informazione: il file allegato ha estensione PNG ma in
realtà è un jpg ... qualcuno potrebbe avere problemi ad aprirlo...

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Re: [Talk-it] Wayside_shrine

[Volker Schmidt]

>
> > Mi piaceva che nel rendering apparisse la croce, cosa che succede solo se 
> > c’è il tag amenity=place_of_worship, altrimenti sul rendering di OSM non si 
> > distinguono ed anzi non si vedono se sono inseriti come wpt.
>
>
> La grande croce nel rendering "standard" di OSM indica (grossomodo) una
chiesa. Esempio: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/362602008
Il wayside cross viene renderizzato con una piccola croce. Esempio:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2555424719
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Re: [Talk-it] mkgmap e file typ

[demon.box]

michele iw1gfv-2 wrote
> Dai uno sguardo alla parte di sviluppo di piemontese.altervista.org magari
> trovi qualcosa che ti puó essere utile.

ciao, ti ringrazio ma a questo link

http://piemontese.altervista.org/

non trovo nulla, dove intendi di preciso?

grazie

--enrico





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Re: [Talk-it] Elezione membri OSMF

[Cristiano Giovando]

Premessa: ero impiegato di HOT fino al mese scorso, ed adesso come
consulente esterno. Continuo a lavorare in ambito umanitario
promuovendo l'uso di OSM.

Non ho seguito le lunghe discussioni in OSMF-Talk quest'anno, ma se ci
fossero delle statistiche del numero di interventi di Severin e
Nicolas in mailing lists, potrei scommettere che siano direttamente
correlate al periodo precedente ogni elezione.

Hanno rancori con HOT che non riescono a superare ed ogni volta non
perdono l'occasione di fare attacchi personali in pubblico e denigrare
l'organizzazione. Sono bravissimi a criticare e fare le vittime, ma
non si mettono mai in gioco - magari proponendo la loro candidatura.

Invito tutti coloro che vogliono/possono votare ad informarsi, leggere
i programmi dei candidati ed evitare di fare una scelta solo leggendo
messaggi come quelli di Martin ...o il mio :)

Cristiano

2017-12-06 1:31 GMT+01:00 Luigi Toscano :
> Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto:
>>
>>
>> sent from a phone
>>
>>> On 5. Dec 2017, at 21:19, Francesco Pelullo  wrote:
>>>
>>> Conoscete personalmente qualcuno dei candidati?
>>
>>
>> ho seguito le discussioni, in particolare i discorsi HOT tra Nicolas, 
>> Severin, Jean Guillaume e il attuale e ex-board di HOT.
>>
>> Personalmente non voterò per nessuno da HOT o affiliato, anche perché HOT ha 
>> già 2 persone nel board (Mikel e Kate), e perché stanno in “contenzioso” con 
>> la OSMF (per via del trademark). E perché mi convincono più le voci che 
>> vogliono un impronta piccola di OSMF che quelli che vogliono una struttura 
>> con leadership (e quindi pecore come mappatori, che seguono).
>
> Attenzione che una delle incompresioni del senso di "leadership" sta qua, che
> *non* si riferisce ad una struttura con capipopolo da un lato pecore
> dall'altro. Ha un senso diverso, e se qualcuno sta faticando a spiegarlo, gli
> altri non lo sentono proprio. Ma amen.
>
>>
>> Se dovessi considerare di votare Heather Leson ti invito a leggere alcuni 
>> post di severin e nicolas e come il CoC in HOT è probabilmente stato 
>> (ab)usato per azzittare i critici.
>
> Forse. Ancora non sono riuscito a capire bene come sia andata. Non sarebbe la
> prima volta che chi ha fatto casini poi reclama di essere perseguitato, ma
> ripeto, è tutto molto complicato.
>
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Re: [Talk-cz] [osm_sk] WeeklyOSM CZ 382

[Marián Kyral]

-- Původní e-mail --
Od: Martin Ždila 
Komu: osm_sk 
Datum: 6. 12. 2017 9:24:10
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] [osm_sk] WeeklyOSM CZ 382
"
> (dotaz redakce: jak se slovensky řeknou horolezecké mačky
(https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma%C4%8Dky)    ?)



Mačky(https://sk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma%C4%8Dka_(obuv)) :-)



"



Dík,

že by to mělo něco společného s drápy od koček? :-D





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Re: [Talk-cz] [osm_sk] WeeklyOSM CZ 382

[Martin Ždila]

> (dotaz redakce: jak se slovensky řeknou horolezecké mačky
 [image: ] ?)

Mačky  :-)

2017-12-05 21:52 GMT+01:00 Tom Ka :

> Ahoj, je dostupné vydání 382 týdeníku WeeklyOSM:
>
> http://www.weeklyosm.eu/cz/archives/9699
>
> * fell3 stále řádí v ČR,
> * Reklamace v RUIAN.
> * Navigace pro lyžaře.
> * StreetComplete a adresy v CZ a SK.
> * Problém s mapery Wheelmap.
> * Setkání členů Nadace OSM.
> * HOT v Iráku a Iránu.
> * Vlastní routování v OsmAnd.
> * Poslední změny v OSM.
> * Mapy z paleolitu.
>
> Pěkné počtení ...
>
> --
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> „Openstreetmap Slovakia“ služby Skupiny Google.
>
> Ak chcete zrušiť odber tejto skupiny a prestať od nej prijímať e-maily,
> pošlite e-mail na adresu osm_sk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> Ak chcete zobraziť túto diskusiu na webe, prejdite na adresu
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/osm_sk/CAHqEKC1%
> 2BzvYrYT1x7B6tBxVxUWKP8OyBod98MAVYfcE8Qc0ReQ%40mail.gmail.com.
> Ďalšie možnosti nájdete na stránke https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>



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Re: [Talk-it] Riconoscimento inaspettato

[Simone Saviolo]

Complimenti! È bello vedere il proprio lavoro riconosciuto: significa che
ha davvero avuto qualche impatto su qualcuno.

Ciao,

Simone
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