Re: [Talk-ca] Forestry Roads

2015-07-16 Per discussione Duncan Hill
I agree with James and have been tagging forestry roads with highway=track
in my area of Ontario.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Tristan Anderson 
andersontris...@hotmail.com wrote:

 This is how I tag forestry roads:

 tertiary: major logging roads in remote areas, sometimes also access mines
 or hydro dams.  Well graded, suitable for all vehicles although most
 traffic is often trucks, usually wide enough for vehicles to pass without
 slowing down.  They're often hundreds of kilometers long with long straight
 sections, and can connect remote towns or first nation reserves.  Still
 owned by logging companies so should be access=permissive.

 unclassified: narrower but still drivable with a mid-size front-wheel
 drive car, may lead to hunting lodges or lakes for boating/fishing/camps...
 not exclusively forestry traffic but primarily a forestry road.  Usually
 access=permissive.

 service: mostly for logging activities, accessing current or former
 clear-cutting sites.  Usually access=private, especially if there are no
 trespassing or authorized vehicles only type signs.  Also service would
 be any road behind a gate that is closed to regular traffic.

 track: two tire tracks with vegetation growing in the middle, regardless
 of where it goes or who uses it... can be packed gravel (grade2) right down
 to ATV/feller buncher tracks (grade5).  Grade1 generally refers to paved
 tracks, the likes of which I have never seen or heard of in Canada.


 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway

 Should be track

 Roads for mostly agricultural or forestry uses. To describe the quality of
 a track, see tracktype=*. Note: Although tracks are often rough with
 unpaved surfaces, this tag is not describing the quality of a road but its
 use. Consequently, if you want to tag a general use road, use one of the
 general highway values instead of track.
 On Jul 15, 2015 7:15 PM, Steve Roy st...@ssni.ca wrote:

 Whenever I have created forestry roads I have used highway=track -
 particularly if I know the road is rough and unmaintained.
 These are your typical BC forestry roads that are able to be used after
 logging is completed in the area and the roads haven't been
 de-activated.  I have had people change them to
 highway=minor/unclassified after my edits are done and for the most part
 I leave them unless I know the road is a rough/4x4 road, the kind you
 wouldn't take a Honda Civic on.

 However I have been emailing with a person adding forestry roads on
 Vancouver Island and they insist on the tag highway=service for their
 edits when mapping forestry roads.  These aren't the main A to B
 forestry roads, rather smaller gravel roads.

 What is the correct tag in Canada?

 Thanks
 Steve Roy

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Re: [Talk-ca] ON prefix on Ontario highways

2015-02-28 Per discussione Duncan Hill
It might make sense to have that info included. Perhaps it could use a
separate tag and then renderers can choose how to label it.

On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Also this user has been adding A to Quebec autoroutes, R to Quebec
 provincial highways, CR to Ontario county roads, etc.

 On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I've noticed that User:Zachary77F has been adding the prefix ON to a
  lot of provincial highways in Ontario. I am not sure whether this
  makes sense (looks kind of weird on the default Mapnik renderer)
  though this convention seems to be used in the US for state highways.
  Should I keep provincial highways tagged this way or should they be
  changed back to the way they were?

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Re: [Talk-ca] openstreetmap.ca is up!

2013-04-22 Per discussione Duncan Hill
I'll second Harald's suggestion to have the map show Canada on load.


On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote:

 First, thanks to Darryl and Richard for taking care of this!

 I have one quick, easy (I assume), and probably non-controversial
 suggestion: when I clicked on the link, I got a map of Europe, not
 Canada. I know that this is only relevant for the first visit but
 maybe it can be fixed anyway.

 Best,
  Harald.

 On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
  Dear all,
 
  Darryl delivered on his promise, and openstreetmap.ca registration has
 been
  transferred to OSMF / me.  Thank you, again, Darryl for taking care of
 the
  domain for the past years, and for offering it to the community, rather
 than
  letting it lapse.
 
  For now, if you visit openstreetmap.ca, it will look very familiar.
  Very
  much like osm.org, in fact.  :-)   I'm happy with that. It's
 unsurprising,
  and easy to maintain.  And in the recent; past we haven't done anything
 else
  with it, so I think that that this is an improvement.
 
  But what else would we like to do?  To move forward on any big changes to
  openstreetmap.ca, I would hope to see a number of things in equal
 measure:
 
  - interesting idea(s)
  - broad consensus
  - active participation
  - resources
 
  I don't foresee any deadline for new ideas or implementation, so this can
  really be a matter for careful consideration over time.  We've done
 pretty
  well so far, without any grand unification web site.
 
  And thanks again, Darryl.
 
  Best regards,
  Richard
 
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Re: [Talk-ca] openstreetmap.ca

2013-03-27 Per discussione Duncan Hill
I think the most practical and easiest thing to do would be to have a
trusted community member control it. I'm sure that we can come up with some
measures to ensure that we can contact the domain owner when necessary.


On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 I wonder what a divorce layer would say about this!  If there were
 disagreements at some point, how could we assure that we control our domain?

 To this regard, I would prefer a solution where osm-ca domain is not
 controlled of OSMF.

 Pierre

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 On 2013-03-25 10:33, Darryl Shpak wrote:
  Good morning everyone,
 
  For the last several years I've owned the domain openstreetmap.ca.
  [..]

  So: I am just about to renew this domain for another year. I would
  like to pass control of the domain over to the Canadian mapping
  community, to someone who will do something -- anything! -- with it
  that will be beneficial to Canadian users and/or mappers.

 Hello Darryl,

 Thanks for bringing up this resource on the list.

 If no one else has a better proposal, I'd like to offer the assistance
 of FACIL (http://facil.qc.ca) in managing this. I welcome any other
 members of this list to join me in this offer.

 FACIL is a non-profit based in Quebec province, doing advocacy for
 free open source software - these days we primarily focus on the
 government here in Quebec.

 I am sitting on the board as VP and we have a few competent admin
 resources, we have been reorganizing some of the hosting and content
 managament resources succesfully. We recently launched an internal
 ticket system and have access to free hosting via Koumbit.org.

 I also have access to other resources as a member of the Free Software
 Foundation but I believe the OSM project wiki combined with FACIL's
 guidance should be enough for anyone other contributors here to step
 in and add the missing glue.

 If nothing else, having FACIL own the domain and pay for it, and
 parking it until a formal project takes place would be logical for now.

 Going a bit further, I would at least redirect it to the OSM Canada
 wiki page [1], but that is up to you.

 Pending other discussions on this list, I am leaving that offer on the
 table. I have no urgency in adding another project to the many things
 I am involved in, but I can offer those resources now. I suppose some
 consensus will happen here.

 Cheers to all,

 Fabian

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Re: [Talk-ca] Importance of Geography

2013-01-15 Per discussione Duncan Hill
Using sociology students as a benchmark for geographic education is not a
really good measure. Nothing against sociology students, but it would be
the same as quizzing geography students about sociology.

On the other hand, not being able to locate the Atlantic Ocean on a map
when you're in Newfoundland raises a few questions.

Thanks for the link


On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.comwrote:

 Okay, I assume everyone on this list is to some degree a map fan
 and/or geek. But here is a story about maps outside our community that
 should be of interest:


 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2013/01/14/nl-students-dont-know-geography-115.html

 Enjoy...


 Colin McGregor

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[Talk-ca] OSM on CBC Radio

2012-12-09 Per discussione Duncan Hill
I caught the tail end of Spark today and I was surprised to hear discussion
about OSM.

Here's a link to the recording for anyone interested:
http://www.cbc.ca/spark/full-interviews/2012/12/04/future-of-digital-mapmaking/
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[Talk-ca] Algonquin Provincial Park

2012-11-08 Per discussione Duncan Hill
I've noticed a lot of problems with the map of Algonquin Provincial Park in
Ontario so I've created a wiki page to better organize editing efforts in
the Area. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Algonquin_Provincial_Park The
park is a major tourist attraction in Ontario and a good quality map of the
area would be useful to many people.

I've suggested some tagging guidelines for hiking trails in the park so we
can have a consistent scheme. I also want to create some tagging guidelines
for the campgrounds, biking trails, and other important features in the
park. The tags I have suggested are based on my personal experience in the
area and I welcome any suggestions.

Happy mapping!
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[Talk-ca] CanVec Imports in areas with existing data

2012-11-04 Per discussione Duncan Hill
I've recently imported some CanVec 10 data into the North Bay, Ontario
area. It's been hard to figure out the best way to do this because of the
assorted versions of existing data in the area. After chatting with some
folks in the #osm-ca channel, I left the existing major highways to
preserve routing. Since this is the first time I've imported any CanVec
data, I am wondering if this is the best way to do it when there is
existing data in the area. I would really appreciate it if someone could
take a look at my import in case I have broken something.

The NTS tile that I imported was: 031L06.0.11
The changeset for my import is here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13755583

Duncan
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