Re: [Talk-us] What is sold in Value Village? (shop=second_hand vs shop=clothes)
They sell a mix of everything...certainly a lot of clothes, but also furniture, kitchenware, sporting goods, etc. You can see more details at https://www.valuevillage.com/donate/what-we-take On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:46 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Is it a second hand shop, but what it is primarily selling? > > Clothes? Or something else? Or is there no dominating product > and it is selling mix of everything? > > I am asking as name-suggestion-index has it as shop=second_hand > without any indication of sold product and it seems to me that > shop=clothes + second_hand=only would be preferable tagging. > > name-suggestion-index is used at least by iD and Vespucci so improving > it makes mapping a bit easier. > > nsi issue: https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/issues/2587 > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- Evan Derickson derickso...@gmail.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Gated communities
I think there should be a new access tag for the "with permission only, but you are likely to get it" case. Years ago OsmAnd tried to send me on a "shortcut" through a military base while I was cycling. It turned out that I could've used the road in question *if* I had contacted the base in advance and gotten a recreation permit. For now that road is tagged as access=private, but that doesn't tell the user that they can use it if they plan ahead. That is a little different from the case we have here, which seems to me more like the difference between "access=private" and "access=extra_private". Without creating new tags, I think the access=private/destination distinction is the closest we can get to reality. On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:32 AM Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > > Mar 21, 2019, 4:11 PM by kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com: > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 3:01 AM Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > > For start, "residents only" gate is for me clearly access=private. > > "manned main gate" - is access strongly restricted? > If nearly everybody, including vehicles, is let in I would tag it > access=yes. > It would also mean that access=destination would be better than > access=private > for inner ways of community. > > If access is strongly filtered (entrance requires permission from resident > or > guard is likely to resuse) then I would tag both gates access=private. > Though it means that these gates are again not distinguishable. > > > In practice, for the gated communities that I'm familiar with, there's > not that significant a difference between access=destination and > access=private at the main gate from this standpoint. If you have > business in the community - pretty much equivalent to 'your > destination is inside the community' - you're extremely likely to have > the permission of a resident or business owner inside the gates. > Nevertheless, if you're not a resident with a key card, you're not > going to get through the automated gates. So access=destination for > the main gate is in theory no more permissive than access=private, but > gives a router a strong indication that "here is the correct entrance > for visitors." > > I agree that access=destination is also better than access=private for > roads inside the gate that are usable by visitors. (access=private is > appropriate for service ways that lead to residents-only parking and > similar things.) > > AFAIK access=destination is not limited to "I have permission from someone > within", it also covers things like "I want to leave promotional > leaflets", or > "I want to walk around". > > It is rather for "no thru traffic" / "local traffic only" than "with > permission only". > > Though I have no idea how to distinguish > "with permission only, you are likely to get it if you have a good reason" > and > "with permission only, to get it you need to be an owner of a flat" > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- -- Evan Derickson (360) 402-6494 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Gated communities
What about marking the resident-only gates with access=private and the guest gate as access=destination? On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 16:03 Eric H. Christensen via Talk-us < talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 6:38 PM, Frederik Ramm > wrote: > > > Should all roads inside the gated community be access=private? > > I wouldn't necessarily mark all the roads as private as I think that would > hinder the routing engines. > > > What tags should be applied to (a) the main gate where visitors and > > delivery services are expected to report, and (b) resident-only gates? > > I've mapped a neighborhood like this before and I think I got the routing > to work properly by using gates at non-manned areas with access=private and > something else at the guard houses with access=designated or something to > that affect. I think that fits the model... > > Eric "Sparks" > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: ProtonMail > Comment: https://protonmail.com > > wsFcBAEBCAAGBQJcksYxAAoJEIB2q94CS7PREZoQALxqnyFgf57KuZ8btd9G > Rh/ttSnL2ut/P3JBddk++vM3qvxD0N6dAEQDF5X1mMYvYtwkjJ3JUm5WeFSL > MTt3teOV1KIJWb7fk8VsysJUatz3Q3Ksty9fevG1t5W2l+9tkXn6eNzMIL5c > Ztdabtgrlx/6I04IpQnPcqAjJUh48g5aQYCitfMQf3A/67/CRt0YnsYEa/79 > 0WmOUmtxLSDdofwOwi3g6CCma6oWiAttnrCfHLQhqbALSlM9e0+VLGICT2ma > c3eV0tzE7qvv6Xw3ngos6uVwsnJ5ppnslBax+ZDyRlc5De0ka+XAep/VWJQc > oU5Yd6gYj+7xiP+loFRLQoOR2gPSf1C/nPIVBKiD0tWgiEkPK/zHA8jA6C83 > a+ZR+BNZ5LXQsSbHGn/4R5jyXBmRSRlsQ3UajVfcaDOteRKsvW2zNQUxQJn/ > uzCPE6H1ZkuMjNzr2qT4/IT8TXc8Qyx+rZB/q0OiJfFa1QofNOmy9rsXkxzm > bDdcH+swBAe6eXz1snM/hYW8HDn0aba/TPYCK5+q5B3D9ynrIH9HktPVcIs9 > wbt4/+qhBe4bxihA5A2vntZyrQJeHqObiMHvN8a4Zs1AiMvzEw70JAth6uYo > 0oNrFCnHC3GZrEHZzyyGK/pjKlcevupEn4NIUZvWO1T6ph3rMLiAr241eSSy > xykO > =y2bt > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > _______ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- -- Evan Derickson (360) 402-6494 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
