Re: [Talk-in] Adding missing towns and villages to OSM

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Hi Jothirnadh,
Can you please point us to the license info of the nga.mil server you
mentioned in the blog? In case it is not of appropriate license, we cannot
import into OSM. I believe geonames.org data is not of suitable license
(others can correct me if I'm wrong). Is the data at the nga.mil map layer
based on geonames.org?
Regards,
Ishan

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Aneesh T  wrote:

> Not by a long shot... It's extremely time consuming
> On 25 Nov 2015 2:21 p.m., "Arun Ganesh"  wrote:
>
>> Aneesh, are the towns and villages in Karnataka 100% complete?
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Aneesh T  wrote:
>>
>>> If you're interested in Karnataka.. The kpwd website has village names
>>> which can be mapped out... As has been done by several contributors..
>>> On 25 Nov 2015 1:04 p.m., "Jothirnadh Sai"  wrote:
>>>
 Dear OSM community,

 My name is Jothirnadh 
 and I recently entered the OSM community as a crowd mapper. I found that
 there are many unmapped towns and villages in India and on the process of
 finding ways to add them I wrote a OSM diary post
  on
 explaining the ways to improve the data. It would be great to have more
 eyes on it and feedback from the OSM community on improvement of the
 missing towns and villages data on OSM.

 With Regards,
 JOTHIRNADH
 Open Data Analyst
 Mapbox, India
 Phn No.: +919490712829

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Re: [Talk-in] Id editor on Bhuvan

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Bhuvan has a TMS/WMS layer, iirc, which can be used with JOSM.

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:35 PM, GN nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote:

 We checked Bhuvan today to get some idea.  We found that they also use
 Id editor for community contributions.

 We are trying to get the high resolution satellite maps from ISRO for
 school and college mapping projects that we are currently doing.

 If openstreetmap.in would like to get the satellite maps from
 Bhuvan/ISRO, what do we need from them?  Do they have an API to pull
 them as background maps?  We may need them mostly while editing.  Since
 Id editor is already used by them, I am wondering they may already be
 using OSM software stack.

 Was there any history of osm community seeking data from ISRO?

 suggestions and tips welcome!
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Re: [Talk-in] India Postal Map

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

I like this dataset from the opendata portal,
https://data.gov.in/catalog/all-india-pincode-directory

I think it has a lot of value to OSM.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:46 AM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com
wrote:

 There is a lot of pincode data for major towns and villages in India
 hidden in the postal_code tag like this
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/340748436

 Most of this data comes from the AND import in 2008:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AND_Data

 Yesterday, I decided to extract the nodes with the postal_code tag and
 make a pincode+post office map. The result is available here to explore:
 http://goo.gl/MbPW7p

 This already looks like a very useful dataset to analyze pincode patterns
 and the postal network. Wonder if India Post has something like this
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com
wrote:



 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.com
 wrote:

 Johnson has access to the same server where OHM is hosted, known as
 hackercoop, which is a community server provided courtesy of Topomancy
 (which is me, Schuyler Erle and Tim Waters).

 Since most if not all of the required stack is already installed and
 configured for http://openhistoricalmap.org it shouldn't be too hard to
 setup http://openstreetmap.in there. Johnson will need guidance from
 Sanjay or Sajjad.

 If we have consensus on this can we start setup?


 Lets consider the lack of opposition as silent nods in agreement. I'm
 ready to take care of the mapnik xml.


+1 to Arun on silent nods in agreement :-) My suggestion would be to use
a different server than OHM, if possible, so that one service doesn't
disrupt the other under any circumstances. Also, so that it is possible to
setup a new server (.in) from scratch later, for purposes of failover)
without too much manual intervention later.

If such a server is not available, we can discuss raising funds for the
maintenance of a server. However, even a VM on the OHM server might help us
get through in the beginning?




 Satyakaam, you can ping and point the nameservers at the hackercoop box
 (on which you should also have an account, send keys to Sanjay if not).

 Best,


 S.K.

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 wrote:



 On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:26 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Via Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server with ample speed and
 space to host openstreetmap.in and related projects for at least one
 year. We are providing the same service to OpenHistoricalMap.


 lets talk about it , OpenHistoricalMap is something interesting would
 like to learn more about it .


 OHM info and mailing list:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map

 Meanwhile, lets start on OSM India. Johnson has already taken the first
 steps, looking forward to hearing from him.


 ​​
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 Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in |​


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Re: [Talk-in] Introduction

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Since you are there, can you take a gps tracker to a few of these locations? 
That might give ua a more authoritative source for offset correction. 

Btw, I hope you meant Bing imagery, not their mapping service.

Thanks for your work! Have a good trip here!
Regards,
Ishan

Sent from my Windows Phone

-Original Message-
From: Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎08-‎11-‎2014 10:50
To: talk-in@openstreetmap.org talk-in@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-in] Introduction

Hi, 

I'm an Australian looking at a holiday in India. So I downloaded a map of India 
(OSM sourced of course). I was dissapointed by the auto routing .. so I looked 
at the OSM source to find that quite a few roads were not correctly connected. 
So I've been doing some 'editorials' or 'housekeeping' as I call it. Basicly 
connecting roads together, adding bridges (using bing to check them first of 
course). 

For 'error' checking/indication I use 
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?lon=75lat=28zoom=6 .. you have to use the 
left side box to check various things .. it comes up in default as 'geometry' 
.. 'routing' is what I use .. it is not infallable but a good indication. 
'Highways' is also usefull. I use JOSM as my editor and use its validator to 
obtain the places where things are not connected or crossing. 

- 
I also looked at the Red Fort in Agra .. one contributor has used one offset in 
their mapping, while another has used a different offset (comparing using 
bing). I do realise that there is a shadow effect due to the side ways look of 
bing there. But even so they don't match up. I'm thinking of trying to tide it 
up. Unfortunatly neither contributor has detailed the source of their 
information so I cannot judge which is better. Thus I'm inclinde to simple go 
with Bing .. with no offset. 

I've made few additions in places of interest to me. One road I have deleted -- 
it was not conneted on eitehr end and went through some tall buildings .. an 
obvious error. But mostly connectinmg roads and adding brigdges. Oh .. and a 
few railway crossings. 

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Re: [Talk-in] Quality of satellite imagery

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

All the satellite imagery comes from Bing, as per their timelines.
Which areas do you see cloud covering? Can we detail all such places so
that we can keep an eye going forward?


On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Prasanth Rajan rajanp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello.

 Is there a time-bound update of satellite imagery of India; some of the
 areas are cloud covered as well. Does OSM run a due-diligence before
 publishing the new images and does OSM also ensure map alignment between
 old and new imageries when the publishing happens? I suppose these are
 rather basic questions regarding OSM in India...

 The reason I am prompted to ask the aforementioned is the difference in
 the quality (even in brightness) of imagery in OSM and G-Maps.

 Thanks and regards.
 Prasanth

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Re: [Talk-in] State of the Map India

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote:


 On Apr 19, 2014 10:46 PM, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote:
 
  On Sunday 20 Apr 2014 12:12:17 AM Shekhar Krishnan wrote:
 
   Thanks to our long-standing work evangelising OpenStreetMap and FOSS
 GIS
 
   at HBCSE/TIFR since 2006, via TIFR we have hostel, campus, lab
 
   facilities if we are serious about SOTM Indi.
 http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in
 
  
 
   Ishan, in Mumbai we can support visiting participants from all over
 
   India and provide hostel at HBCSE depending on dates. Pradeep, what do
 
   you suggest? I've cc-ed Mikel Maron from OpenStreetMap.
 
  
 
   Let's take this forward in connection with the Open Data folks in
 
   Bangalore Datameet who are also into maps and geospatial. Thej and
 Nisha
 
   are also cc-ed herewith.
 
  
 
 
 
  gnowledge lab has recently acquired a deidated server for openstreetmap.
 Johnson, Sanjay, Sathyakam, Sajjad and Arun have already promised to
 maintain the server. (included them in cc since I am not sure if I am
 subscribed to the talk-in group.
 
 
 
  We need a separate map server since NCERT and TISS are currently doing
 big impact projects in open educational resources for school students and
 online courses for enhancing skills for undergraduate students. gnowledge
 lab is involved in both these projects. In the latter project we are
 already using open street map. Hundreds of students are being exposed to
 osm as a part of the course. In the coming three years, we are going to
 work with 50,000 undergraduate students across the country. Considering
 these are Govt of India supported projects we need to take care of the
 borders as per Indian Govt. Therefore the need to create custom maps.
 
 
 
  Arun is interested to do multi-lingual custom maps for school education.
 NCERT is also interested in this project.
 
 
 
  The server will be made available to installations on this Monday and
 hosted at osm.metaStudio.org.
 
 Can we also perhaps point openstreetmap.in to the same server?


+1

 How's the server coming along?

 
 
  Let us few of us meet this week. Arun is also in in Mumbai this week.
 
 
 
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Re: [Talk-in] State of the Map India

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Just a thought: No place less exotic than the northeast of the country
should suffice for our first SOTM-India. Whatsay?


On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Shekhar Krishnan shek...@topomancy.comwrote:

 Pradeep:

 Yes we can always do this at HBCSE/TIFR http://www.hbce.tifr.res.in in
 Mumbai, where we have residential and lab facilities and a nice campus.
 Also I own sotm.in and stateofthemap.in just in case. Let's talk!

 Best,

 Shekhar
 On 19 Apr 2014 21:36, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Are we in any position to do a State of the Map in India?

 Pradeep


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Re: [Talk-in] Usage of www.surveykshan.gov.in

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Unless the pwd data is released at an open license, I suggest we not
use it for osm mapping in any way.

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Subject: Re: [Talk-in] Usage of www.surveykshan.gov.in
On Friday 04 October 2013 01:54 PM, doc.ane...@gmail.com wrote:
 www.kpwd.gov.in
Thanks Aneesh, I'm mapping part of northern Karnataka and this kpwd
webris link is very useful.:)


thanks,
yogi

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Re: [Talk-in] 2013 North India Floods : Follow-up and mapping coordination

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

As per the Wikipedia article, it seems this is the location of the glacier:
http://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Chorabari_Glacierparams=30_45_27_N_79_03_27_E_type:glacier_region:IN
Not sure where to find the lake (Chorabari Tal). Tried sifting through
Flickr photographs, but none of them (with suitable license) had a geotag.

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote:

 In the process of trying to figure out how the destruction of Kedarnath
 happened, I updated the map in the area with natural features and it
 exposes the vulnerable location of the shrine:
 http://osm.org/go/zsVPtLx

 I am still unable to locate Chorabari Tal (Gandhi Sagar) whose breach
 caused an avalanche of mud and rocks downhill. Any help from trekkers?


 On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Thanks Ishan for these reports. I added two new Task manager jobs for
 these two areas and revised the wiki page accordingly.

 These areas are very isolated and the roads connecting to these
 localities are not all traced.  We will add instructions in the wiki page
 to trace or revise these roads.

 Taking into account the important landslides in the area, it is also
 important to trace the various streams and locate the residential areas.
 Instructions will also be added in the wiki page.

 Pierre


 
 Task Manager Jobs

 Harsil area
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/263

 Badrinath and Mana
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/264

 wiki page
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2013_North_India_floods


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 India talk-in@openstreetmap.org
 *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 23 juin 2013 19h21
 *Objet :* Re: 2013 North India Floods : Follow-up and mapping
 coordination

 Thanks Pierre,
 Recently, I saw media reports that Badrinath and Harsil (near Uttarkashi)
 make up the current focus of rescue and relief.

 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/All-pilgrims-rescued-from-Kedarnath-focus-shifts-to-Badrinath-and-Harsil/articleshow/20734070.cms
 Regards,
 Ishan
 (user:chatman)

 On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.frwrote:

 To facilitate the follow-up on this activity, I have renamed the object
 of the email from [HOT] [Talk-in] Fw: [CrisisMappers] 25 killed;24,000
 stranded as rain wreaks havoc in Uttarakhand, India

 A Task manager job have been created for Haridwar urban area. See
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/260
 Hot Contributor are invited to contribute by mapping these areas.

 For people with knowledge of the present situation in north of India,
 please report other areas that you think they should be mapped in priority.
 Please report to this list and describe the situation.

 The people with local knowledge can also contribute greatly to the map by
 geolocating and adding description to the public services buildings,
 hospital, schools, shelter places, etc.

 Wiki page where more informations and instructions are provided about
 this emergency.
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2013_North_India_floods

 Pierre

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 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] [Talk-in] Fw: [CrisisMappers] 25 killed; 24,000
 stranded as rain wreaks havoc in Uttarakhand, India

 Ishan,

 To reassure you and the India community, we are many at HOT to follow the
 situation. Has you saw, Harry and Andrew have started to document a wiki
 page were mapping priorities are expressed. It is suggested to start
 mapping the major roads and rivers.

 The next step is to establish other mapping priorities. For urban areas,
 we can create rapidly Tasking Manager jobs to facilitate Remote mapping by
 the larger OSM community and add the corresponding information in the Wiki
 Page.  Could the India community identify these zones to cover?

 When such a crisis emerge, we start from the Hot Discussion list to
 monitor, create a wiki page and decide collectively the priorities. This
 first step is to monitor the sitution and facilitate remote mapping by the
 larger community.  We proceeded this way in Mali in 2012. For a year, we
 were able to trace large zones before we passed to the Activation status in
 2013 and coordinated with OCHA and Humanitarian NGO's.

 Activation is an other step of priority where more coordination is
 necessary with humanitarian partners or UN Agencies that request our
 participation.

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Re: [Talk-in] Fw: [CrisisMappers] 25 killed; 24,000 stranded as rain wreaks havoc in Uttarakhand, India

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Indeed..
As far as I could tell from media reports, the boundary box appears to be:
UL: 31.099982,78.150329
BR: 29.792984,80.100403

On the lower left edges of the bbox, Dehradun is likely not affected, but
Haridwar is.


On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote:

 To start, we can identify the affected areas, and check on sources of data
 to improve the map.

 This is the region?
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.09lon=79.3zoom=8layers=M Looks
 very mountainous.
 Quick spot checks on Bing imagery, it's high resolution. Other sources?

 If we can identify a bounding box for the region, then can set up a job on
 the tasking server http://tasks.hotosm.org/

 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron

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 *Sent:* Sunday, June 23, 2013 5:24 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Talk-in] Fw: [CrisisMappers] 25 killed; 24,000 stranded
 as rain wreaks havoc in Uttarakhand, India

 Let us do something! Anyone has any pointers how can we start (in an
 organized fashion)?
 Can someone please take a lead to start a mapping sprint towards helping
 map the affected regions? Mikel?

 On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Some response to the floods in Uttarakhand. Is there anything for OSM to
 improve in the base map of the region, to aid response?

 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron

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 *To:* crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 3:17 PM
 *Subject:* [CrisisMappers] 25 killed; 24,000 stranded as rain wreaks
 havoc in Uttarakhand, India

 Hi CrisisMappers,
 Thousands are reported stranded in Uttarakhand and Himachal Pradesh in
 India due to heavy rains and landslides.
 Thanks,
 Buddha
 @HalderBuddha

 Some updates:
 1. Uttarakhand worst affected as rain wreaks havoc in north India;
 thousands 
 strandedhttp://www.ndtv.com/article/cheat-sheet/uttarakhand-worst-affected-as-rain-wreaks-havoc-in-north-india-thousands-stranded-380689?pfrom=home-lateststories
 2. Watch: in torrential rain, house collapses in Uttarakhand
 http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/watch-in-torrential-rain-house-collapses-in-uttarakhand/279586?h_also_see
 3. Rain triggers landslides in Uttarakhand; Char Dham Yatra suspended
 http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/rain-triggers-landslides-in-uttarakhand-char-dham-yatra-suspended/279524?h_also_see
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Re: [Talk-in] [HOT] Fw: [CrisisMappers] 25 killed; 24,000 stranded as rain wreaks havoc in Uttarakhand, India

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Wow, this is great. Can we create a hot job on the tasks.hotosm.org and
link it to the wiki?

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk wrote:

 Guys, I already announced a wiki page coordinating a response to this
 disaster a day and half ago:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2013_North_India_floods
 Thanks to Reneman and AndrewBuck who responded quite rapidly by
 investigating mapping possibilities and adding more info to that page.


 You guys seem to have missed my mailing post and yellow lable on the
 'India' wiki page.  I feel like something went wrong in that process.


 Looking ahead, maybe we' should ramping this up into more of an
 'activation'.

 Next steps?
 * tasking manager job? I think the city of Dehradun
 http://osm.org/go/zm8r~jUM- presents the best opportunity for obvious
 beginner-friendly mapping tasks.
 * other mapping coordination? things like mapping in lots more rivers in
 the mountains could be worthwhile, but may be less suited to a task manager
 grid. We could use 'notes' just as I did in the Philippines once,
 coordinating river mapping with OpenStreetBugs
 * Supply more info to potential data *users* on the wiki page. We should
 have templates for this really. How can we get our data into the hands of
 aid people?
 * I will tweet a link to the wiki page from @hotosm.
 * reply to crisis mappers with a link to our wiki page?* Call it an
 activation?

 
 From: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
 To: Ishan Chattopadhyaya ichattopadhy...@gmail.com; OpenStreetMap in
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 Cc: h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org
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 To start, we can identify the affected areas, and check on sources of data
 to improve the map.


 This is the region?
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.09lon=79.3zoom=8layers=M Looks
 very mountainous.
 Quick spot checks on Bing imagery, it's high resolution. Other sources?


 If we can identify a bounding box for the region, then can set up a job on
 the tasking server http://tasks.hotosm.org/

 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron


 
  From: Ishan Chattopadhyaya ichattopadhy...@gmail.com
 To: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com; OpenStreetMap in India 
 talk-in@openstreetmap.org
 Cc: h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org
 Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 5:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Talk-in] Fw: [CrisisMappers] 25 killed; 24,000 stranded as
 rain wreaks havoc in Uttarakhand, India
 
 
 
 Let us do something! Anyone has any pointers how can we start (in an
 organized fashion)?
 Can someone please take a lead to start a mapping sprint towards helping
 map the affected regions? Mikel?
 
 
 On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 Some response to the floods in Uttarakhand. Is there anything for OSM to
 improve in the base map of the region, to aid response?
 
 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
 
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 To: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:17 PM
 Subject: [CrisisMappers] 25 killed; 24,000 stranded as rain wreaks
 havoc in Uttarakhand, India
 
 
 
 Hi CrisisMappers,
 Thousands are reported stranded in Uttarakhand and Himachal Pradesh in
 India due to heavy rains and landslides.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Buddha
 
 @HalderBuddha
 
 Some updates:
 1. Uttarakhand worst affected as rain wreaks havoc in north India;
 thousands stranded
 2. Watch: in torrential rain, house collapses in Uttarakhand
 3. Rain triggers landslides in Uttarakhand; Char Dham Yatra suspended
 
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Re: [Talk-in] 2013 North India Floods : Follow-up and mapping coordination

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Thanks Pierre,
Recently, I saw media reports that Badrinath and Harsil (near Uttarkashi)
make up the current focus of rescue and relief.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/All-pilgrims-rescued-from-Kedarnath-focus-shifts-to-Badrinath-and-Harsil/articleshow/20734070.cms
Regards,
Ishan
(user:chatman)

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:06 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 To facilitate the follow-up on this activity, I have renamed the object of
 the email from [HOT] [Talk-in] Fw: [CrisisMappers] 25 killed;24,000
 stranded as rain wreaks havoc in Uttarakhand, India

 A Task manager job have been created for Haridwar urban area. See
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/260
 Hot Contributor are invited to contribute by mapping these areas.

 For people with knowledge of the present situation in north of India,
 please report other areas that you think they should be mapped in priority.
 Please report to this list and describe the situation.

 The people with local knowledge can also contribute greatly to the map by
 geolocating and adding description to the public services buildings,
 hospital, schools, shelter places, etc.

 Wiki page where more informations and instructions are provided about this
 emergency.
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2013_North_India_floods

 Pierre

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 *À :* Ishan Chattopadhyaya ichattopadhy...@gmail.com
 *Cc :* OpenStreetMap in India talk-in@openstreetmap.org; 
 h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org
 *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 23 juin 2013 11h41
 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] [Talk-in] Fw: [CrisisMappers] 25 killed; 24,000
 stranded as rain wreaks havoc in Uttarakhand, India

 Ishan,

 To reassure you and the India community, we are many at HOT to follow the
 situation. Has you saw, Harry and Andrew have started to document a wiki
 page were mapping priorities are expressed. It is suggested to start
 mapping the major roads and rivers.

 The next step is to establish other mapping priorities. For urban areas,
 we can create rapidly Tasking Manager jobs to facilitate Remote mapping by
 the larger OSM community and add the corresponding information in the Wiki
 Page.  Could the India community identify these zones to cover?

 When such a crisis emerge, we start from the Hot Discussion list to
 monitor, create a wiki page and decide collectively the priorities. This
 first step is to monitor the sitution and facilitate remote mapping by the
 larger community.  We proceeded this way in Mali in 2012. For a year, we
 were able to trace large zones before we passed to the Activation status in
 2013 and coordinated with OCHA and Humanitarian NGO's.

 Activation is an other step of priority where more coordination is
 necessary with humanitarian partners or UN Agencies that request our
 participation.

 Pierre

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 *Envoyé le :* Dimanche 23 juin 2013 7h27
 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] [Talk-in] Fw: [CrisisMappers] 25 killed; 24,000
 stranded as rain wreaks havoc in Uttarakhand, India

 Wow, this is great. Can we create a hot job on the tasks.hotosm.org and
 link it to the wiki?

 On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Harry Wood m...@harrywood.co.uk wrote:

 Guys, I already announced a wiki page coordinating a response to this
 disaster a day and half ago:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2013_North_India_floods
 Thanks to Reneman and AndrewBuck who responded quite rapidly by
 investigating mapping possibilities and adding more info to that page.


 You guys seem to have missed my mailing post and yellow lable on the
 'India' wiki page.  I feel like something went wrong in that process.


 Looking ahead, maybe we' should ramping this up into more of an
 'activation'.

 Next steps?
 * tasking manager job? I think the city of Dehradun
 http://osm.org/go/zm8r~jUM- presents the best opportunity for obvious
 beginner-friendly mapping tasks.
 * other mapping coordination? things like mapping in lots more rivers in
 the mountains could be worthwhile, but may be less suited to a task manager
 grid. We could use 'notes' just as I did in the Philippines once,
 coordinating river mapping with OpenStreetBugs
 * Supply more info to potential data *users* on the wiki page. We should
 have templates for this really. How can we get our data into the hands of
 aid people?
 * I will tweet a link to the wiki page from @hotosm.
 * reply to crisis mappers with a link to our wiki page?* Call it an
 activation?

 
 From: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
 To: Ishan Chattopadhyaya ichattopadhy...@gmail.com; OpenStreetMap in
 India talk-in@openstreetmap.org
 Cc: h...@openstreetmap.org h...@openstreetmap.org
 Sent: Sunday, 23 June 2013, 5:24
 Subject: Re: [HOT] [Talk-in] Fw: [CrisisMappers] 25

Re: [Talk-in] Fw: [CrisisMappers] 25 killed; 24,000 stranded as rain wreaks havoc in Uttarakhand, India

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Let us do something! Anyone has any pointers how can we start (in an
organized fashion)?
Can someone please take a lead to start a mapping sprint towards helping
map the affected regions? Mikel?

On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Some response to the floods in Uttarakhand. Is there anything for OSM to
 improve in the base map of the region, to aid response?

 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron

   - Forwarded Message -
  *From:* Buddhadeb Halder bhalder...@gmail.com
 *To:* crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 *Sent:* Monday, June 17, 2013 3:17 PM
 *Subject:* [CrisisMappers] 25 killed; 24,000 stranded as rain wreaks
 havoc in Uttarakhand, India

 Hi CrisisMappers,
 Thousands are reported stranded in Uttarakhand and Himachal Pradesh in
 India due to heavy rains and landslides.
 Thanks,
 Buddha
 @HalderBuddha

 Some updates:
 1. Uttarakhand worst affected as rain wreaks havoc in north India;
 thousands 
 strandedhttp://www.ndtv.com/article/cheat-sheet/uttarakhand-worst-affected-as-rain-wreaks-havoc-in-north-india-thousands-stranded-380689?pfrom=home-lateststories
 2. Watch: in torrential rain, house collapses in Uttarakhand
 http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/watch-in-torrential-rain-house-collapses-in-uttarakhand/279586?h_also_see
 3. Rain triggers landslides in Uttarakhand; Char Dham Yatra suspended
 http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/news/rain-triggers-landslides-in-uttarakhand-char-dham-yatra-suspended/279524?h_also_see
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Re: [Talk-in] Mapping do's and don'ts

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Specifically,
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FAQ#What_images_and_maps_may_I_use_to_make_maps_from.3F
Regards,
user:chatman

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya 
ichattopadhy...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think some of your questions are addressed here:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FAQ

 Perhaps there could be some other resources too.
 Happy mapping!
 Regards,
 chatman

 On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Ashim Kapoor ashimkap...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear All,

 I am a beginner to mapping. I want to know what kind of maps can be
 published online ? For instance can we publish a map of India based on a
 shapefile by ANY source or are only specific shapefiles to be published.

 A user on a chat room was kind enough to tell me that we can publish any
 map of India as long as there is a disclaimer that the map is inaccurate.
 Is that correct ?  May I ask what is the exact language of this disclaimer
 ?

 Also what about maps of the world / other countries ? What are the
 challenges in publishing them ? Some websites also say that we can use
 their data as  long as we don't make a misleading impression with that
 data. Can someone say a few words about this ?

 I guess there must be a nice webpage with this info but my hit and trial
 with google was not very successful. What are the keywords that I can type
 in to search for this ?


 Many thanks,
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Re: [Talk-in] Police investigating Google's mapathon

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

I 3 Delhi Police ;-)


On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Pradeep Mohandas 
pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi,

 Are people on this list carefully avoiding discussing this? -
 http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/internet/Delhi-Police-investigating-Google-Mapathon/articleshow/19398857.cms

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Re: [Talk-in] What just happened?

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Lets do it!

Sent from my Nokia Lumia / Windows Phone
From: paramvi...@gmail.com
Sent: 26-01-2013 12:35
To: OpenStreetMap in India
Subject: Re: [Talk-in] What just happened?
That's good news. Can the mappers come together so we can have meetups?
Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

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Re: [Talk-in] Participatory OSM in Pune

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Good presentation. Clearly demonstrates the need for a format definition of
an extended tagset for India. Any proposals so far?
Did the researcher publish any list of tags she felt needed for her work?

On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi

 Just wanted to share this presentation by a researcher who worked in a
 Pune slum last summer mapping.
 http://www.slideshare.net/candelasre/participatory-mapping-in-pune

 My take on the outcomes is that it was quite a short intervention. All the
 challenges faced are the slower moving, real issues to grapple with in this
 kind of work.

 Cheers
 Mikel

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Re: [Talk-in] Rate Roads

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

pretty nice.. i liked the concept, might be good to tie data back to OSM.
hated that it didn't allow me to seee ratings 17 zoom level.. but overall
pretty nice, will use it a bit more!

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Onkar Shinde onkarshi...@gmail.com wrote:

 When I said 'rating data' I was wondering if it is calculated based to
 the tags available in OSM.

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tracktype


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Re: [Talk-in] Any OpenStreet Mapping Party in Bangalore?

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Hi Vignesh,
I would say having ordinary GPS enabled smartphones is just fine for most
mapping activity one would like to take up. A clear view to sky will bring
in desired precision. Adding more POIs (shops etc.) and tagging more
unnamed streets could be a start for the mapping party.
Regards,
Ishan

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:07 AM, VIGNESH PRABHU stove311...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi friends,

 Is there any mapping party planned in Bangalore sometime in near future.
 FSMK(Free Software Movement Karnataka) have few interested students from
 two colleges, Dr. AIT and SJBIT near Mysore Road who are planning to
 celebrate Software Freedom Day and we are thinking of conducting a mapping
 party as part of the celebration. However all the students are completely
 new to openstreetmap and mapping parties. Hence if there is somebody
 interested in guiding us, then we can plan to conduct a mapping party on
 22nd Sept.
 From what I could search on internet, just having smartphones with GPS is
 not enough and we need specific GPS receivers. If you can explain what
 specific GPS recievers are required, we can try to  arrange few of them for
 that day.

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 Regards,
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Re: [Talk-in] Use of official names for cities

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Based on these official websites and the text therein, I felt that the
official names are as they have it:
http://www.dharwad.nic.in/
http://shimoga.nic.in/
http://www.hdmc.gov.in/
http://www.mysore.nic.in/

However, I'm sure there must be some official government list of city names
available somewhere.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:

 I always look to wikipedia for reference as there are always more people
 debating these things over there and reaching a consensus. Correct me if im
 wrong, but i do think Shivamoga, Hubbali etc are the official names now.
 Just like Bengaluru and Mysuru.

 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya 
 ichattopadhy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 It seems there are following inconsistencies:

 Official name, Name on the map
 Shimoga, Shivamoga
 Dharwad, Dharwada
 Hubli, Hubballi

 I think this is downright confusing for people who aren't aware of these
 alternate names. Shall we not try to stick to the official names (as per
 Govt. records) for these and plenty of other cities like these?
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Re: [Talk-in] Use of official names for cities

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

I always thought NIC sites are more or less official ones. :-) Would trust
them more than Wikipedia.

But, even some *.gov.in sites are there..

http://www.mysorecity.gov.in/
http://www.shimogacity.gov.in/
etc.

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:

 Those are nic sites :)


 On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya 
 ichattopadhy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Based on these official websites and the text therein, I felt that the
 official names are as they have it:
 http://www.dharwad.nic.in/
 http://shimoga.nic.in/
 http://www.hdmc.gov.in/
 http://www.mysore.nic.in/

 However, I'm sure there must be some official government list of city
 names available somewhere.


 On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote:

 I always look to wikipedia for reference as there are always more people
 debating these things over there and reaching a consensus. Correct me if im
 wrong, but i do think Shivamoga, Hubbali etc are the official names now.
 Just like Bengaluru and Mysuru.

 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya 
 ichattopadhy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 It seems there are following inconsistencies:

 Official name, Name on the map
 Shimoga, Shivamoga
 Dharwad, Dharwada
 Hubli, Hubballi

 I think this is downright confusing for people who aren't aware of
 these alternate names. Shall we not try to stick to the official names (as
 per Govt. records) for these and plenty of other cities like these?
 Regards,
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Re: [Talk-in] Use of official names for cities

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Thanks for the background, Kiran. After reading your note and also looking
around the web for other discussions like these, I am even more convinced
than ever before that OSM should go with the central government approved
names. These name changes look perfectly legitimate to me on the map:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaming_of_cities_in_India. To ask me, I
would think having an official name change requires both state and central
govt. approval, and in the absence of both these approvals, the name change
cannot be official. Hence, OSM must not use these names.

I suggest OSM stick to the centrally approved names instead of regional
variants. It will present a consistent view to everyone looking at the map
and eliminate confusion or surprises.

I feel the best list to cross check these can be the list of members of
parliament (Lok Sabha) and the Lok Sabha constituencies:
http://164.100.47.132/LssNew/Members/statedetail.aspx?state_code=Karnataka(this
is coming from a
gov.in website, dunno what's the deal with the IP address).

Are there any instances of such issues in any other country as well?
Regards,
Ishan

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Kiran Jonnalagadda j...@pobox.com wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote:

 I always look to wikipedia for reference as there are always more people
 debating these things over there and reaching a consensus. Correct me if im
 wrong, but i do think Shivamoga, Hubbali etc are the official names now.
 Just like Bengaluru and Mysuru.


 Official depends on which official you mean. Bangalore is Bengaluru
 according to the Government of Karnataka, but still Bangalore according to
 the Government of India.

 The central government has refused to confirm *any* of the new names in
 Karnataka because Karnataka tried renaming Belgaum to Belagavi, but the
 district government has been lobbying to move into Maharashtra.

 Karnataka tried renaming several cities in a single order. The central
 government will not accept it unless Belgaum is removed from the list.
 Karnataka will not do this because it amounts to admitting a problem in
 Belgaum. This stand-off has existed for years. State-funded projects like
 the airport refer to Bengaluru. Centre-funded institutions like the
 railways still say Bangalore.

 The media has lost interest in this, so there are few references on the
 current status. I posted one to this list a couple years ago.

 One simple way to verify current status is by looking at what the major
 newspapers say in the list of cities they publish from. The Times of India,
 The Hindu, Deccan Herald and Mint all say Bangalore. I remember seeing a
 newspaper that said Bengaluru, but can't recall which. Thought it was
 Deccan Herald, but their website says Bangalore.

 So the question is, which side is the OSM community on?

 Kiran

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[Talk-in] Use of official names for cities

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Hi all,
It seems there are following inconsistencies:

Official name, Name on the map
Shimoga, Shivamoga
Dharwad, Dharwada
Hubli, Hubballi

I think this is downright confusing for people who aren't aware of these
alternate names. Shall we not try to stick to the official names (as per
Govt. records) for these and plenty of other cities like these?
Regards,
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Re: [Talk-in] Indic place names in [name] tags

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+1
Even I observed it in a few places. I support this. :-)

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have been trying to render maps from the osm data and the multilingual
 place names in the [name] tags has been an issue. There are all sorts of
 formats: [latin], [latin local], [local latin], [latin
 (local)], [local (latin)], [local].

 I feel for the sake of consistency, only the latin name be entered into
 the [name] tag, and the local language one in the [name:hi] or similar tag
 with the two letter language code. Otherwise the inconsistent name tags is
 just going to make processing the data cumbersome. I'm going to move the
 local names into the name: subtags, let me know if anyone has an issue with
 that. No data is going to be lost, only that the default osm tiles will
 only show the latin names. But then again its time we set up india tile
 servers for indian languages so that localization can be carried out in a
 more consistent manner.
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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Emilie Laffray 
 emilie.laff...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello,

 most people have been using the following convention:

 [name] = Native language
 [name:en] = Latin character
 [name:hi] = Local name

 Nominatim is capable of searching a name whatever the namespace is. Also,
 the Japanese have been also using tags like [name:jp_romaji] for latin
 transcript.
 I believe that the map should be usable for the people who are living in
 the area not for the tourists.


 Such a name localization effort using the default mapnik tiles as
 reference is only going to result in ALL name tags having both english and
 indic names (dont forget that a good proportion of Indians are literate in
 english). People want to 'see' their hometowns in the local script, and
 adding it to the [name] tag is the only option because the osm tiles
 renders only that.

 If we had indic tiles that rendered from name:hi tags we would not have
 this problem because those interested in hindi would use the hindi tiles
 and the hindi tags. Now there is just duplication of data in name and
 name:hi

 I'm afraid I might have been the first one to start this trend 4 years
 back when i entered the tamil and english names for chennai just to see if
 mapnik was able to render it. In a month, i saw kannada, then hindi names
 turned up all over the north, and then bengali in the east. And because
 each label is so long, a lot of other place labels get hidden  :/

 Ah, alas the penal code isn't strong enough to punish you for this heinous
crime against humanity.. heheh ;-)


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Re: [Talk-in] OSM-India: No map

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Didn't know it existed. Why not ask them directly (
http://nrcfoss.au-kbc.org.in/contacts/)?

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:36 PM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Ishan Chattopadhyaya
 ichattopadhy...@gmail.com wrote:
  I can see the map tiles rendering properly. Talking about the
  openstreetmap.org, right?

 I am talking of Indian server:

  http://openstreetmap.in/

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Re: [Talk-in] Bangalore Map

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Your best bet is the stable APIs from MapQuest to access the OSM services
like geocoding, search, directions etc.
http://developer.mapquest.com/

Regards,
Ishan

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 9:09 PM, H.S.Rai h...@raiandrai.com wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 8:54 PM, PRAMOD.Y.V shastry yv.pra...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  any APIs
  provided by OSM similar to the geocoding API and DirectionRendere API of
  Google Maps. Basically I'm interested in an application which can give me
  route between 2 places..

 http://www.yournavigation.org/

 Also explore OSM wiki:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page

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