Re: [Talk-us] SOTM2017 schedule & housing

[Kristin Rollins]

Ah, there is a menu linked from the top right of the page. That layout
may be familiar on mobile devices, but that icon didn't attract my
attention in a full-screen desktop browser window.
Kristin


On Wed, Sep 13, 2017, at 09:10 AM, Kristin Rollins wrote:
> I am not sure what site has suggested hotels or more info about the
> schedule, but it isn't readily apparent from the page linked.> 
> Kristin
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017, at 08:24 AM, Ian Dees wrote:
>> Hi Alan,
>> 
>> Please check our website for some more information about the schedule
>> and suggested hotels:>> 
>> https://2017.stateofthemap.us/
>> 
>> -Ian
>> 
>> On Sep 13, 2017 05:50, "Alan Bragg" <alan.d.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I've got my ticket but no idea when to arrive or depart and not miss
>>> any of the events. Specific time of day start and end would make it
>>> easier to book flights. Program schedule would help.>>> Also need 
>>> suggestions on housing.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Talk-us] SOTM2017 schedule & housing

[Kristin Rollins]

I am not sure what site has suggested hotels or more info about the
schedule, but it isn't readily apparent from the page linked.
Kristin



On Wed, Sep 13, 2017, at 08:24 AM, Ian Dees wrote:
> Hi Alan,
> 
> Please check our website for some more information about the schedule
> and suggested hotels:> 
> https://2017.stateofthemap.us/
> 
> -Ian
> 
> On Sep 13, 2017 05:50, "Alan Bragg"  wrote:
>> I've got my ticket but no idea when to arrive or depart and not miss
>> any of the events. Specific time of day start and end would make it
>> easier to book flights. Program schedule would help.>> Also need suggestions 
>> on housing.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Talk-us] Open survey on participation biases in OSM

[Kristin Rollins]

The very notion that studying who participates in OSM is divisive is
preposterous.

The very notion that there would be nothing to learn if a project where
"everyone has a chance to contribute if they want to" had a 99% to 1%
gender imbalance is absolutely ridiculous. If there are groups of people
who have a chance to contribute but choose not to participate, the
reasons for that are absolutely worth studying. Are there ways that OSM
could change to encourage more people to participate? Are there ways
that OSM could change how it works in a way that would produce a better
product? Or a more welcoming experience for people who aren't like you?

I also find the idea that learning more about ANYTHING is divisive to be
offensive. I find it difficult to find any legitimate reason for the
vehemence of your responses on this topic.

And, to be frank, if the price of my participation is putting up with
anti-knowledge and faux-egalitarian BS, then I suspect I will be another
woman walking out the door of OSM.

Kristin

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On Tue, Sep 5, 2017, at 02:27 PM, Joel Holdsworth wrote:
> Because the very notion that it is relevant to study OSM by gender is 
> divisive.
> 
> Who cares what the gender balance of contributors to OSM is? I don't. I 
> didn't even know what the split was until this thread. Because it 
> literally doesn't matter.
> 
> Even it were 99% women, it wouldn't matter. So long as everyone has a 
> chance to contribute if they want to.
> 
> Some people are saying about how awful it is to have a gender bias in 
> the mapped data. If it were 99% women, I would imagine there might be 
> better detail about the women's toilets. In that case, I would add data 
> about the men's. No one owes me an apology, or a commitment to change 
> their mapping habits. The solution starts with me - "Be the change you 
> want to see."
> 
> It's simple - whatever gender, race, social group you are, come and use 
> OSM. If some data you care about is missing, get mapping!
> 
> 
> Joel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 05/09/17 12:14, Charlotte Wolter wrote:
> > 
> > My goodness, all this anxiety! Why are you feeling that
> > you have to justify what you map, just because someone is
> > studying it by gender?
> > 
> > Charlotte
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > At 10:10 AM 9/5/2017, you wrote:
> >> On Tue, 5 Sep 2017 08:25:33 +0200 Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com> 
> >> wrote: > One of the discussion points on her diary entry was female 
> >> hygiene > products found in women's toilets. How is a man going to map 
> >> that, > without access to women's toilets ? > > The real question for 
> >> me is are men more likely going to map shop=car > than 
> >> shop=clothes;clothes=underwear/fashion/ ... (sorry for the > 
> >> stereotyping) > will men map leisure=playground or amenity=pub ? > 
> >> will a roman catholic map a mosque ? > will a non-dog owner map 
> >> leisure=dog_park ? > > in short: will we map everything we see or do 
> >> we map only our > interests ? Furthermore, do we really see everything 
> >> or do we only see > (and map) things we are conditioned to ? > > This 
> >> is not about buildings, addresses, roads and paths. They are
> >> > pretty gender neutral I think. It's about POIs.
> >>
> >> I know I map what I see (or more precisely, what my camera
> >> captures). If it doesn't have a sign out front, I don't map it.
> >> To take an example from the midwives vs. strip clubs debate,
> >> the phone book lists seven midwives and/or midwife groups
> >> in the Spokane area. Of those, three are attached to hospitals
> >> and one to a community-health clinic, and so wouldn't have
> >> signs. Two are operating out of private homes and don't have
> >> signs (and I wouldn't map them if they did, just like I don't map
> >> lawn care or computer repair businesses operating out of
> >> private homes).
> >> The last one is in the 95% of the city I haven't yet photo-mapped.
> >> The phone book lists zero strip clubs in the Spokane area.
> >> Despite that, I've found and mapped one strip club: it was on a
> >> major street and had a clear sign out front.
> >> Yes, there's a bias in my mapping, but it's a bias towards
> >> "things identifiable from the street." I'm more likely to map a car
> >> store than a clothes store, because car stores are generally
> >> not found inside shopping malls. Playgrounds beat pubs,
> >> because every playgrou

Re: [Talk-us] USA Rail: Amtrak Northeast Regional to Norfolk?

[Kristin Rollins]

I suspect that this is probably not detailed enough to help you, but
here is how it was described when the route began:

The Norfolk train will run south of Harbor Park, across the Elizabeth
River and on toward Suffolk, where it will pass through rural Western
Tidewater along U.S. 460 toward its first stop, the Ettrick station by
Petersburg, and on to Richmond.

Source:
http://hamptonroads.com/2012/12/ready-ride-amtrak-norfolk-heres-guide

Unfortunately, I haven't yet had the chance to take advantage of the
route. I will resist the urge to attempt to crowdfund an Amtrak trip
from Norfolk to Washington. *grin* If I ever do manage to take it (and
my increasingly flaky phone battery survives) I'll get a GPS track).

Kristin

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On Fri, Apr 24, 2015, at 03:13 PM, stevea wrote:
 Does anybody know how the newer Northeast Regional Amtrak trains (71, 
 88, 125, 157, 174) which serve Norfolk, Virginia actually get there? 
 I mean on what track from Petersburg?

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