[talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company

2009-06-09 Thread maning sambale
Hi,

I just had a phone discussion from a delivey/forwarding company.  They
own several delivery trucks equipped with GPS.  They are willing to
donate GPS traces provided we give them GPS maps (which I do anyway).
Focus areas includes Visayas.  Do you think this is a worthwhile data source?

Of course we don't expect drivers to do the editing.  Any idea on how
we should proceed?


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Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company

2009-06-09 Thread Rally de Leon
Great. Actually, we need the data for averaging tracks (and if you ask me, I
always prefer visual method for best-fit trace over existing satellite
images, if they're available). otherwise, we just trace over the tracklogs
which represent most likely the center-of-the-roads). Other mappers can name
the roads later.

I don't suggest uploading their entire gpx data to osm. We only need a few
quality tracks.

We can expect multiple tracklogs over the same roads on their delivery
routes, and I believe we have lots of talents here who can make sense out of
their chaotic random lines. Let's see how we go about the clean-up. :-) How
big are the files?



On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:13 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I just had a phone discussion from a delivey/forwarding company.  They
 own several delivery trucks equipped with GPS.  They are willing to
 donate GPS traces provided we give them GPS maps (which I do anyway).
 Focus areas includes Visayas.  Do you think this is a worthwhile data
 source?

 Of course we don't expect drivers to do the editing.  Any idea on how
 we should proceed?


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Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company

2009-06-09 Thread maning sambale
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Rally de Leonrall...@gmail.com wrote:
 How big are the files?
He he. Excited, wala pa po.
We have arranged further discussions.  Honestly, I want to see the
units first so that I can configure it to 1sec tracking :)
Will keep the list posted and hope we can share the load in editing.



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Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company

2009-06-09 Thread Marloue Pidor
For data donations, do you have any written (by paper of email) consent
from the donor? If we have one, why not add the data to OSM.

murlwe
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Hi,

I just had a phone discussion from a delivey/forwarding company. They
own several delivery trucks equipped with GPS. They are willing to
donate GPS traces provided we give them GPS maps (which I do anyway).
Focus areas includes Visayas. Do you think this is a worthwhile data
source?

Of course we don't expect drivers to do the editing. Any idea on how
we should proceed?


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Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company

2009-06-09 Thread Rally de Leon
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.comwrote:

  For data donations, do you have any written (by paper of email) consent
 from the donor? If we have one, why not add the data to OSM.

 murlwe


Maybe it depends on the data. If gps tracks will come from delivery vans and
they have (more or less) the same route everyday, we'll have lots of
redundant gpx tracks on osm (which may be very hard to look at). The group
needs to qualify them first before uploading.

I'm just not sure if these donors are aware of security issues. It is best
to keep their names (and nature of business) confidential. What if it's an
armored van carrying money (or container van delivering high-value
electronics)? we become automatic suspects if somebody rob/hijack the van.
Si maning ang unang ito-torture ng NBI/CIDG, hehe ;-)

But maybe, if it's the type like aluminum van that delivers appliances, then
that will be great since they don't have fix route.


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 From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 6/9/2009 4:14:23 PM
 To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company
 
 Hi,
 
 I just had a phone discussion from a delivey/forwarding company. They
 own several delivery trucks equipped with GPS. They are willing to
 donate GPS traces provided we give them GPS maps (which I do anyway).
 Focus areas includes Visayas. Do you think this is a worthwhile data
 source?
 
 Of course we don't expect drivers to do the editing. Any idea on how
 we should proceed?
 
 
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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 11, Issue 12

2009-06-09 Thread noel mondragon
Hi,
 
Can we put the NOAA shoreline data for OSM??it might be helpful if its free...
 
thanks,
 
,noel



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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 11, Issue 12

2009-06-09 Thread maning sambale
Not entirely sure, but NOAA coastline are too coarse for our level of
mapping.  Need to check and verfiy

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:43 AM, noel mondragonnoel_pylo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Can we put the NOAA shoreline data for OSM??it might be helpful if its
 free...

 thanks,

 ,noel


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Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 11, Issue 12

2009-06-09 Thread Ed Garcia
Yes, too coarse ... it is accurate enough in positioning, but coarse.  It is
what I used for waypoints.ph vicinity maps.  It has more islands and islets
though than the current OSM coastlines.


On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:34 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Not entirely sure, but NOAA coastline are too coarse for our level of
 mapping.  Need to check and verfiy

 On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:43 AM, noel mondragonnoel_pylo...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Can we put the NOAA shoreline data for OSM??it might be helpful if its
  free...
 
  thanks,
 
  ,noel
 
 
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