[talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
/ok so we have 4 incorporators, need 1 more. Maning declined for president, how bout for secretary/treasurer. Essentially theyre the signing person, sign this doc etc, this form, secretary certificate, treasurers cert etc etc. Who would like to be President? president should probably be someone who has the orgs best interests at heart, is active in the community and wants to lead/direct OSM Philippines on to greater things. I know a few here who would fit that profile, nominations anyone? BTW you can be an incorporator if you are not a Filipino citizen, you just cant have more than 40% shares, which doesnt matter since this is a nonstock. Incorporators // 1.) Enthropia Inc. // 2.) Neuraltech // 3.) Maning // 4.) Eugene // 5.) / ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
My own personal opinion, BTW, is that having a formal organisation rather then just meeting for great mapping parties :-) is not of great value to individual mappers, BUT is very useful when asking organisations to donate data and moderately so for generating publicity statements for tv and newspapers ... I respectfully disagree Mike. If mappers don't see any value in such an org, then why should we bother? Data donations, publicity is important to expand OSM-PH. However, I believe the core of this project is the community (mappers), supporting (not competing) with local efforts of mappers should be the prime goal. Perhaps a misunderstood your statement. so I kinda hope you do! I hope so too. This has been our goal since we met in Manila years ago. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] PNR back on track
As always, ianlopez mapped areas where most mappers don't :). Nice work. Yes, I suggest we get ahead of others to map the railways (if it still exist). At least corruption cannot stall OSming :). Interestingly, I encountered several roads locally known as Daang Bakal, my guess is, there used to be railways for areas like this. On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:32 PM, ian lopezian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, the PNR tracks from the Tutuban area to Alabang are on the map - however, the tracks are extended to a point between Valenzuela and Meycauayan in the north and somewhere between Tiaong and Candelaria (both in Quezon province) in the south. There are some stations added/edited between Tutuban and Alabang since a year ago, but I've managed to add two stations south of Alabang (Pacita Complex, San Pablo) during that time as well. Maybe we should map the entire PNR line up to Bicol (and link up with the lines added in Candelaria and Lucena ) if the entire line is completed within two years (my estimate). BTW, the old PNR trains are/were still in operation until possibly the time of the reopening. --- On Wed, 7/15/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, INQ reported that the PNR is operational again with new trains (yellow curtains) up to Alabang. The Bicol route will soon operate by next year (?). Is it in the map already? -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
Great, but,ehr, could it be that Cebu is just one big floating island ??? http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=14lat=10.35578lon=123.92528layers=B0Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100=1ch110=1ch120=1ch130=1ch150=1ch160=1ch170=1ch180=1ch191=1ch192=1ch193=1ch194=1ch201=1ch202=1ch203=1ch204=1ch210=1ch220=1show_ign=1show_tmpign=1 Whats wrong with the orange arrows? The nodes of the intersections look ok to me... --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 4:21 PM Hi guys, The keepright! QA tool for OSM just went almost global. Previously this tool was only enabled for Europe. This tool highlights spatial errors (such as overlapping unconnected ways that have no layer tags to separate them), and tagging errors (such as POIs without a name tag). Here's a URL centered at the Makati CBD: http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=15lat=14.55284lon=121.02068layers=B0Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100=1ch110=1ch120=1ch130=1ch150=1ch160=1ch170=1ch180=1ch191=1ch192=1ch193=1ch194=1ch201=1ch202=1ch203=1ch204=1ch210=1ch220=1show_ign=1show_tmpign=1 Just pan around to see more errors. Only 100 errors are shown at a time. A few reminders: 1. There may be false positives. Report it to the tool maintainer. 2. The data is not real time! Errors are based on the weekly data dump. So if you correct the error, it will still be reported until the next data dump is imported by the tool. Have fun! -- Forwarded message -- From: Harald Kleiner e9625...@gmx.at Date: Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:53 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global To: OSM Talk t...@openstreetmap.org ...well, almost. From now on, the site http://keepright.ipax.at will provide data consistency checks not only for Europe but also for Africa, Asia and South America. Australia is already covered by the keepright partner site at http://keepright.x10hosting.com/ What's still missing in the list is North America. Volunteers who want to donate computing power are welcome to join. All you need is a medium-sized PC running Linux and a little bit of time to manage running the program. Have a nice weekend! Harald ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
Checked the data, looks good to me in josm. Other than some roads are unnamed. On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Eugene Alvin Villarsea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Totor, George also replied asking what these floating island errors mean. As far as I understand it, it means that there is a small network of navigable ways that is not connected to the rest of the network. It does detect islands in Metro Manila but I'm quite surprised to find that it seems to think that the Cebu road network is one big error! Maybe a few ferry routes would fix it? I'll ask the creator of keep right. I don't think he anticipated archipelagos. Hehehe. Eugene / seav On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: Great, but,ehr, could it be that Cebu is just one big floating island ??? http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=14lat=10.35578lon=123.92528layers=B0Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100=1ch110=1ch120=1ch130=1ch150=1ch160=1ch170=1ch180=1ch191=1ch192=1ch193=1ch194=1ch201=1ch202=1ch203=1ch204=1ch210=1ch220=1show_ign=1show_tmpign=1 Whats wrong with the orange arrows? The nodes of the intersections look ok to me... --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 4:21 PM Hi guys, The keepright! QA tool for OSM just went almost global. Previously this tool was only enabled for Europe. This tool highlights spatial errors (such as overlapping unconnected ways that have no layer tags to separate them), and tagging errors (such as POIs without a name tag). Here's a URL centered at the Makati CBD: http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=15lat=14.55284lon=121.02068layers=B0Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100=1ch110=1ch120=1ch130=1ch150=1ch160=1ch170=1ch180=1ch191=1ch192=1ch193=1ch194=1ch201=1ch202=1ch203=1ch204=1ch210=1ch220=1show_ign=1show_tmpign=1 Just pan around to see more errors. Only 100 errors are shown at a time. A few reminders: 1. There may be false positives. Report it to the tool maintainer. 2. The data is not real time! Errors are based on the weekly data dump. So if you correct the error, it will still be reported until the next data dump is imported by the tool. Have fun! -- Forwarded message -- From: Harald Kleiner e9625...@gmx.at Date: Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:53 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global To: OSM Talk t...@openstreetmap.org ...well, almost. From now on, the site http://keepright.ipax.at will provide data consistency checks not only for Europe but also for Africa, Asia and South America. Australia is already covered by the keepright partner site at http://keepright.x10hosting.com/ What's still missing in the list is North America. Volunteers who want to donate computing power are welcome to join. All you need is a medium-sized PC running Linux and a little bit of time to manage running the program. Have a nice weekend! Harald ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
Hi guys, I asked the tool's maintainer how the floating island error is determined. Here's his answer: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-July/038800.html I've reprinted it here below for convenience: The motto of this check is you can go everywhere from everywhere. There is a set of starting points (highways in the center of big cities that are well connected to many other streets) I picked randomly. The check finds ways that are connected to these ways and thus finds a (bigger) set of ways. This procedure is repeated until no more ways are found. Any way that was not found is a floating island. There are 30 starting points all over the world, one of them in Manila. Please note that the check will follow any highway and ferries are included, so it _should_ find islands as long as there's a ferry connected to a highway on the island. So it seems that everything not connected to the main streets of Metro Manila is considered as a floating island. Mindoro is covered since there is a ferry route from Batangas to Puerto Galera. I think if we can at least sketch out the Ro-Ro routes, we can cover most of the major island. I will also suggest adding Cebu and Davao cities as seeds to minimize problems. However, this will not cover all the islands (there are about 2,000 inhabited islands out of 7,100+ and not all of them have regular ferry routes [like Batanes (?) which is served by flights]) so this means that we cannot rely on keep right to point out all floating island errors. I think a customized QA tool for the Philippines would be needed. I hope this helps! In the meantime, just uncheck this error and ignore it until we can have a backbone connection for the Philippines and more seeds. Eugene / seav On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw some blue arrows indicating 2 roads are close, but not conneected. In Cebu this is the case near Car-Car in the south, and also in the north of Cebu Island. Maybe this could be the reason for the island warning on other intersections (Not connected to the world, because of these gaps)? I'll try to connect them tomorrow. --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global To: Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com Cc: Openstreetmap.ph.mailing.list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 2:53 PM Ack! I've done a quick look around and it seems that the general Luzon road network is the only one not riddled with these errors! On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Totor, George also replied asking what these floating island errors mean. As far as I understand it, it means that there is a small network of navigable ways that is not connected to the rest of the network. It does detect islands in Metro Manila but I'm quite surprised to find that it seems to think that the Cebu road network is one big error! Maybe a few ferry routes would fix it? I'll ask the creator of keep right. I don't think he anticipated archipelagos. Hehehe. Eugene / seav On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: Great, but,ehr, could it be that Cebu is just one big floating island ??? http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=14lat=10.35578lon=123.92528layers=B0Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100=1ch110=1ch120=1ch130=1ch150=1ch160=1ch170=1ch180=1ch191=1ch192=1ch193=1ch194=1ch201=1ch202=1ch203=1ch204=1ch210=1ch220=1show_ign=1show_tmpign=1 Whats wrong with the orange arrows? The nodes of the intersections look ok to me... --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 4:21 PM Hi guys, The keepright! QA tool for OSM just went almost global. Previously this tool was only enabled for Europe. This tool highlights spatial errors (such as overlapping unconnected ways that have no layer tags to separate them), and tagging errors (such as POIs without a name tag). Here's a URL centered at the Makati CBD: http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=15lat=14.55284lon=121.02068layers=B0Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100=1ch110=1ch120=1ch130=1ch150=1ch160=1ch170=1ch180=1ch191=1ch192=1ch193=1ch194=1ch201=1ch202=1ch203=1ch204=1ch210=1ch220=1show_ign=1show_tmpign=1 Just pan around to see more errors. Only 100 errors are shown at a time. A few reminders: 1. There may be false positives. Report it to the tool maintainer. 2. The data is not real
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
Ohh, but I added a flight route from Davao to Manila. Check the data, its there but I don't know why it did not appear. So, Technically Davao is connected to Manila by plane. I will try to add ferry route to Manila. Its a very long route. murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 7/21/2009 12:10:35 PM To: totor_...@yahoo.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global Hi guys, I asked the tool's maintainer how the floating island error is determined. Here's his answer: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-July/038800.html I've reprinted it here below for convenience: The motto of this check is you can go everywhere from everywhere. There is a set of starting points (highways in the center of big cities that are well connected to many other streets) I picked randomly. The check finds ways that are connected to these ways and thus finds a (bigger) set of ways. This procedure is repeated until no more ways are found. Any way that was not found is a floating island. There are 30 starting points all over the world, one of them in Manila. Please note that the check will follow any highway and ferries are included, so it _should_ find islands as long as there's a ferry connected to a highway on the island. So it seems that everything not connected to the main streets of Metro Manila is considered as a floating island. Mindoro is covered since there is a ferry route from Batangas to Puerto Galera. I think if we can at least sketch out the Ro-Ro routes, we can cover most of the major island. I will also suggest adding Cebu and Davao cities as seeds to minimize problems. However, this will not cover all the islands (there are about 2,000 inhabited islands out of 7,100+ and not all of them have regular ferry routes [like Batanes (?) which is served by flights]) so this means that we cannot rely on keep right to point out all floating island errors. I think a customized QA tool for the Philippines would be needed. I hope this helps! In the meantime, just uncheck this error and ignore it until we can have a backbone connection for the Philippines and more seeds. Eugene / seav On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw some blue arrows indicating 2 roads are close, but not conneected. In Cebu this is the case near Car-Car in the south, and also in the north of Cebu Island. Maybe this could be the reason for the island warning on other intersections (Not connected to the world, because of these gaps)? I'll try to connect them tomorrow. --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global To: Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com Cc: Openstreetmap.ph.mailing.list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 2:53 PM Ack! I've done a quick look around and it seems that the general Luzon road network is the only one not riddled with these errors! On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Totor, George also replied asking what these floating island errors mean. As far as I understand it, it means that there is a small network of navigable ways that is not connected to the rest of the network. It does detect islands in Metro Manila but I'm quite surprised to find that it seems to think that the Cebu road network is one big error! Maybe a few ferry routes would fix it? I'll ask the creator of keep right. I don't think he anticipated archipelagos. Hehehe. Eugene / seav On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: Great, but,ehr, could it be that Cebu is just one big floating island ??? http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=14lat=10.35578; lon=123.92528layers=B0Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100 =1ch110=1ch120=1ch130=1ch150=1ch160=1ch170=1ch180=1ch191=1ch192 =1ch193=1ch194=1ch201=1ch202=1ch203=1ch204=1ch210=1ch220=1show_ ign=1show_tmpign=1 Whats wrong with the orange arrows? The nodes of the intersections look ok to me... --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 4:21 PM Hi guys, The keepright! QA tool for OSM just went almost global. Previously this tool was only enabled for Europe. This tool highlights spatial errors (such as overlapping unconnected ways that have no layer tags to separate them), and tagging errors (such as POIs without a name tag). Here's a URL centered at the Makati CBD: http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=15lat=14.55284; lon=121.02068layers=B0Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100
[talk-ph] OSM on cnet's CRAVE
OSM on cnet's CRAVE http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10289505-1.html?part=rsstag=feedsubj=Crave ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
The plane route shoud connect to a road, that's how I understand it. Same with ferry routes On 7/21/09, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: Ohh, but I added a flight route from Davao to Manila. Check the data, its there but I don't know why it did not appear. So, Technically Davao is connected to Manila by plane. I will try to add ferry route to Manila. Its a very long route. murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 7/21/2009 12:10:35 PM To: totor_...@yahoo.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global Hi guys, I asked the tool's maintainer how the floating island error is determined. Here's his answer: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-July/038800.html I've reprinted it here below for convenience: The motto of this check is you can go everywhere from everywhere. There is a set of starting points (highways in the center of big cities that are well connected to many other streets) I picked randomly. The check finds ways that are connected to these ways and thus finds a (bigger) set of ways. This procedure is repeated until no more ways are found. Any way that was not found is a floating island. There are 30 starting points all over the world, one of them in Manila. Please note that the check will follow any highway and ferries are included, so it _should_ find islands as long as there's a ferry connected to a highway on the island. So it seems that everything not connected to the main streets of Metro Manila is considered as a floating island. Mindoro is covered since there is a ferry route from Batangas to Puerto Galera. I think if we can at least sketch out the Ro-Ro routes, we can cover most of the major island. I will also suggest adding Cebu and Davao cities as seeds to minimize problems. However, this will not cover all the islands (there are about 2,000 inhabited islands out of 7,100+ and not all of them have regular ferry routes [like Batanes (?) which is served by flights]) so this means that we cannot rely on keep right to point out all floating island errors. I think a customized QA tool for the Philippines would be needed. I hope this helps! In the meantime, just uncheck this error and ignore it until we can have a backbone connection for the Philippines and more seeds. Eugene / seav On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw some blue arrows indicating 2 roads are close, but not conneected. In Cebu this is the case near Car-Car in the south, and also in the north of Cebu Island. Maybe this could be the reason for the island warning on other intersections (Not connected to the world, because of these gaps)? I'll try to connect them tomorrow. --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global To: Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com Cc: Openstreetmap.ph.mailing.list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 2:53 PM Ack! I've done a quick look around and it seems that the general Luzon road network is the only one not riddled with these errors! On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Totor, George also replied asking what these floating island errors mean. As far as I understand it, it means that there is a small network of navigable ways that is not connected to the rest of the network. It does detect islands in Metro Manila but I'm quite surprised to find that it seems to think that the Cebu road network is one big error! Maybe a few ferry routes would fix it? I'll ask the creator of keep right. I don't think he anticipated archipelagos. Hehehe. Eugene / seav On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: Great, but,ehr, could it be that Cebu is just one big floating island ??? http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=14lat=10.35578; lon=123.92528layers=B0Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100 =1ch110=1ch120=1ch130=1ch150=1ch160=1ch170=1ch180=1ch191=1ch192 =1ch193=1ch194=1ch201=1ch202=1ch203=1ch204=1ch210=1ch220=1show_ ign=1show_tmpign=1 Whats wrong with the orange arrows? The nodes of the intersections look ok to me... --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 4:21 PM Hi guys, The keepright! QA tool for OSM just went almost global. Previously this tool was only enabled for Europe. This tool highlights spatial errors (such as overlapping unconnected ways that have no layer tags to separate them), and tagging errors (such as POIs without a name tag). Here's a URL centered at the
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global
@marloue: we'll just have to recheck the roads, maning is probably right we might have missed something out. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:36 PM, maning sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The plane route shoud connect to a road, that's how I understand it. Same with ferry routes On 7/21/09, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: Ohh, but I added a flight route from Davao to Manila. Check the data, its there but I don't know why it did not appear. So, Technically Davao is connected to Manila by plane. I will try to add ferry route to Manila. Its a very long route. murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 7/21/2009 12:10:35 PM To: totor_...@yahoo.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global Hi guys, I asked the tool's maintainer how the floating island error is determined. Here's his answer: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-July/038800.html I've reprinted it here below for convenience: The motto of this check is you can go everywhere from everywhere. There is a set of starting points (highways in the center of big cities that are well connected to many other streets) I picked randomly. The check finds ways that are connected to these ways and thus finds a (bigger) set of ways. This procedure is repeated until no more ways are found. Any way that was not found is a floating island. There are 30 starting points all over the world, one of them in Manila. Please note that the check will follow any highway and ferries are included, so it _should_ find islands as long as there's a ferry connected to a highway on the island. So it seems that everything not connected to the main streets of Metro Manila is considered as a floating island. Mindoro is covered since there is a ferry route from Batangas to Puerto Galera. I think if we can at least sketch out the Ro-Ro routes, we can cover most of the major island. I will also suggest adding Cebu and Davao cities as seeds to minimize problems. However, this will not cover all the islands (there are about 2,000 inhabited islands out of 7,100+ and not all of them have regular ferry routes [like Batanes (?) which is served by flights]) so this means that we cannot rely on keep right to point out all floating island errors. I think a customized QA tool for the Philippines would be needed. I hope this helps! In the meantime, just uncheck this error and ignore it until we can have a backbone connection for the Philippines and more seeds. Eugene / seav On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: I saw some blue arrows indicating 2 roads are close, but not conneected. In Cebu this is the case near Car-Car in the south, and also in the north of Cebu Island. Maybe this could be the reason for the island warning on other intersections (Not connected to the world, because of these gaps)? I'll try to connect them tomorrow. --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global To: Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com Cc: Openstreetmap.ph.mailing.list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 2:53 PM Ack! I've done a quick look around and it seems that the general Luzon road network is the only one not riddled with these errors! On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Totor, George also replied asking what these floating island errors mean. As far as I understand it, it means that there is a small network of navigable ways that is not connected to the rest of the network. It does detect islands in Metro Manila but I'm quite surprised to find that it seems to think that the Cebu road network is one big error! Maybe a few ferry routes would fix it? I'll ask the creator of keep right. I don't think he anticipated archipelagos. Hehehe. Eugene / seav On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Totor Osm totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: Great, but,ehr, could it be that Cebu is just one big floating island ??? http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=14lat=10.35578; lon=123.92528layers=B0Tch30=1ch40=1ch50=1ch60=1ch70=1ch90=1ch100 =1ch110=1ch120=1ch130=1ch150=1ch160=1ch170=1ch180=1ch191=1ch192 =1ch193=1ch194=1ch201=1ch202=1ch203=1ch204=1ch210=1ch220=1show_ ign=1show_tmpign=1 Whats wrong with the orange arrows? The nodes of the intersections look ok to me... --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] keepright! goes global To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 4:21 PM Hi guys, The keepright! QA tool for OSM just went almost global. Previously this tool was only enabled for Europe. This tool highlights
