Re: [talk-ph] SOTM 2010 OSM-PH poster

2010-07-15 Thread maning sambale
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28698...@n02/4795340642/

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi guys,

 Here's an initial poster (probably near final) that we could send to Girona
 for the State of the Map 2010 conference. Since no one from us can go there
 and present about the Philippines, the next best thing is to send them a
 poster.

 Download the poster from this URL:
 http://forge.codedgraphic.com/osm/sotm_2010_osmph_poster_draft_2.pdf
 (temporary link)

 Comments and corrections are greatly appreciated. :-)

 Eugene


 On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi guys,

 It seems maning can't go to Spain for the OSM State of the Map conference
 and they can't give the slot to another Filipino so no one among us can
 attend.

 So an alternative is for us to just send them a State of the Philippines
 poster! See this:
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2010-June/006371.html

 What do you guys want to see on the poster? Mapping Parties definitely,
 but any other ideas? Take note that the last time there was a presentation
 about the Philippines was when Mike Collinson talked about OSM-PH back in
 SOTM 2008. http://vimeo.com/7097011


 Eugene


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Re: [talk-ph] cebu map errors

2010-07-15 Thread Totor
Hi,

Thanks for the comments about Cebu.
If you have noticed names to add or correct, please add them.

I try to add road names when I can, but I'm local since 5 years only. I still 
need to rely on road name signs, and they are quite rare in many parts of Cebu. 
I also used shop signboards, but its difficult to drive and look out of the 
passenger window at the same time ^_^ 

So often I just add the road without name, hoping that others, eventually 
without GPS, will add them...

Regarding the separate ways, I started to add them in Mactan and Mandaue. I 
come less often in the center/south of Cebu city, so I don't have reliable 
traces of both lanes. But little by little I correct the double carriage ways 
there too.

Unfortunately there is no satellite imagery available here, so all needs to be 
traced by GPS.

Regards,

Totor

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, tutubi  wrote:
 From: tutubi 
 Subject: [talk-ph] cebu map errors
 To: talk-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 5:37 AM
 hi!
 
 just came back from a recent trip in Cebu City...here are
 some of my
 observations on OSM there:
 
 some of major roads i passed by between cebu city, mandaue,
 and the
 airport have no names (even long portions of M.L. Quezon
 highway
 leading to Mactan shrine)
 
 Some segments of Juan Luna Avenue, including the SM Cebu
 segment, has
 a center island therefore should be depicted as two
 separate ways .
 this will mess up routing in the area as well and
 considering it's a
 frequently visited place
 
 I will correct the missing names later but, again, I can't
 make
 corrections on Juan Luna though, better let a local edit
 it
 

 


  

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Re: [talk-ph] better ways to coordinate coastline mapping?

2010-07-15 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Here's a little bit more elaboration on the problem of coastlines in Mapnik.
This information can be found at the OSM Wiki:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Coastline

Unlike every other feature in the OSM database, coastlines are rendered
differently in Mapnik. The Mapnik rendering software needs closed polygons
to render areas, and since coastlines are the largest and most basic
polygons there is on any map, OSM has to ensure that it feeds Mapnik closed
coastlines in order to coherently show seas and islands.

For zoom levels 0-9, OSM ignores all coaslines data in OSM and uses the
public domain VMAP0 data. For zoom levels higher than 9, OSM uses the
Coastline error checker tool 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Coastline_error_checker to generate
closed shapefiles that Mapnik can use. This tool is only run infrequently
and that is why coastlines do not update often in Mapnik.


On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:48 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote:
  maning sambale wrote, On Thursday, 15 July, 2010 12:01 PM:
  What I mean here is the mainland of Palawan.  But yes the smaller
  islands needs more work.
 
  Hmmm, now I'm beginning to think I didn't understand. I thought you were
 saying that the coastline of Palawan (yes, the main island) was 99% free of
 jagged coastlines. But when I look at it I can see about 30% unjagged, and
 70% jagged. eg
 
  
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=9.1627lon=118.2309zoom=13layers=B000FTF
 
 
  Am I looking at the wrong thing here? Do you have a different view with
 all the jaggies removed? Ah ... or maybe I'm looking at the OSM rendered
 map, which hasn't been updated. Is that it? In which case, sorry to be dumb.
 Try the osmarender layer

 http://osm.org/go/4nECSgr?layers=0B00FTF

 Mapnik coastlines doesn't update too often.


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Re: [talk-ph] SOTM 2010 OSM-PH poster

2010-07-15 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Unfortunately, the date for the Cavite Mapping Party is now wrong on the
poster. :-p

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:50 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/28698...@n02/4795340642/

 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi guys,
 
  Here's an initial poster (probably near final) that we could send to
 Girona
  for the State of the Map 2010 conference. Since no one from us can go
 there
  and present about the Philippines, the next best thing is to send them a
  poster.
 
  Download the poster from this URL:
  http://forge.codedgraphic.com/osm/sotm_2010_osmph_poster_draft_2.pdf
  (temporary link)
 
  Comments and corrections are greatly appreciated. :-)
 
  Eugene
 
 
  On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi guys,
 
  It seems maning can't go to Spain for the OSM State of the Map
 conference
  and they can't give the slot to another Filipino so no one among us can
  attend.
 
  So an alternative is for us to just send them a State of the Philippines
  poster! See this:
  http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2010-June/006371.html
 
  What do you guys want to see on the poster? Mapping Parties definitely,
  but any other ideas? Take note that the last time there was a
 presentation
  about the Philippines was when Mike Collinson talked about OSM-PH back
 in
  SOTM 2008. http://vimeo.com/7097011
 
 
  Eugene
 
 
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Re: [talk-ph] cebu map errors

2010-07-15 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi tutubi,

Have you seen OpenStreetBugs? You should add your bug reports also here so
that the exact location is immediately available and visible (as opposed to
trying to describe the location by text).

http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/

No account is needed to file bugs here. :-)


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:37 PM, tutubi
tut...@backpackingphilippines.comwrote:

 hi!

 just came back from a recent trip in Cebu City...here are some of my
 observations on OSM there:

 some of major roads i passed by between cebu city, mandaue, and the
 airport have no names (even long portions of M.L. Quezon highway
 leading to Mactan shrine)

 Some segments of Juan Luna Avenue, including the SM Cebu segment, has
 a center island therefore should be depicted as two separate ways .
 this will mess up routing in the area as well and considering it's a
 frequently visited place

 I will correct the missing names later but, again, I can't make
 corrections on Juan Luna though, better let a local edit it

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Re: [talk-ph] SOTM 2010 OSM-PH poster

2010-07-15 Thread Sorbi Ildefonso
The poster looks really good! Great work sir! =)

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi guys,

 It seems maning can't go to Spain for the OSM State of the Map conference
 and they can't give the slot to another Filipino so no one among us can
 attend.

 So an alternative is for us to just send them a State of the Philippines
 poster! See this:
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2010-June/006371.html

 What do you guys want to see on the poster? Mapping Parties definitely, but
 any other ideas? Take note that the last time there was a presentation about
 the Philippines was when Mike Collinson talked about OSM-PH back in SOTM
 2008. http://vimeo.com/7097011


 Eugene

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Re: [talk-ph] cebu map errors

2010-07-15 Thread tutubi
Hi Totor,

already added the missing street names mostly in Mandaue near the
vicinity of Parkmall (there are many roads named Cabahug, Seno and
Cortes hehe)

I was able to notice the errors since I'm just a professional
passenger. Also note there are missing ways in the area across SM City
and Juan Luna Avenue. The new location of CnT Lechon Cebu's there as
well as Conching Native Chicken resto (added already). Also noticed
the lack of satellite imagery in the area considering it's Cebu :(

Hi Alvin,

will file bugs there next time, i post errors/bugs on my alternate
pathetic blog. most errors I noticed are the center islands or turn
restrictions

my next trip's gonna be up north in Sta. Cruz, Ilocos Sur and will
probably visit Vigan again.
I'll try to pass by Mindanao Avenue NLEX link now :P

On 7/15/10, Totor totor_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Thanks for the comments about Cebu.
 If you have noticed names to add or correct, please add them.

 I try to add road names when I can, but I'm local since 5 years only. I
 still need to rely on road name signs, and they are quite rare in many parts
 of Cebu. I also used shop signboards, but its difficult to drive and look
 out of the passenger window at the same time ^_^


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Re: [talk-ph] better ways to coordinate coastline mapping?

2010-07-15 Thread Jim Morgan
Eugene Alvin Villar wrote, On Thursday, 15 July, 2010 10:06 PM:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Coastline_error_checker to generate
 closed shapefiles that Mapnik can use. This tool is only run
 infrequently and that is why coastlines do not update often in Mapnik.

I see what you mean 

Last update of coastline errors: Wed Apr 14 13:19:17 UTC 2010
Using data available at: 100414
If this is really old it's almost certaintly due to missing daily diffs 
at
http://planet.openstreetmap.org/daily/
In which case you have to wait till after the next weekly dump...

I guess something went wrong then ... three months is a long time on OSM

Jim


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