Re: [talk-ph] Mapping Orani Bataan
At 09:28 AM 2/01/2010, Jing Iya wrote: Narcky and I are planning to map the whole of Orani, Bataan. ... Wish me luck guys. Sounds great. More good luck from me! And a Happy New Year to all, Mike ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Province place nodes
state is the Map Features tag value for states, provinces and roughly synonomous high-level national subdivisions. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dstate FYI, editing them is real easy with XAPI. The following is a bounding box for the Philippines. It will download a file that you can open and edit in JOSM. You can then upload changes directly from JOSM. Just bear in mind that these are not downloads from the live server but should normally be no more than 10 minutes older. http://osmxapi.hypercube.telascience.org/api/0.6/node[place=state][bbox=116.65,4.59,126.60,21.113056] (just worked for me) or http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.6/http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.6/node[place=state][bbox=116.65,4.59,126.60,21.113056] (seems to be offline) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/XAPI Mike At 06:41 AM 14/09/2009, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM, maning sambale mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Why place=state? That's what the existing node have so I simply copied the convention. I checked Canada (since they have provinces and territories instead of states) and found out their nodes also use place=state. For example Saskatchewan: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/305700698http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/305700698 Of course, it doesn't help that Mike also imported those nodes. :-p So, i'm not sure if we should change place=state to place=province. Take note that we also had an old discussion regarding whether to use place=village for barangays. Then again, the place=city,town,suburb,hamlet,village values are for settlements, not large administrative subdivisions. Any thoughts? ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
The dilemma for for us at the main OSM Foundation is that by setting up local chapters, our main reliable source of funding, the annual subscriptions that members pay, may no longer come in directly. Much of that money is spent on computer hardware to keep our sites up, and a proportion on promoting OSM globally and a proportion on legal and other costs. These subscriptions are GBP 15 annually ... so the figure of GBP 10 is essentially saying that the local chapter should keep 1/3 for local costs and promotion. In a European and North American context, that is not an unreasonable figure for most countries. For example, I am a member of a small town cycle club with no great costs and the annual membership is GBP 18. However, elsewhere, I concur with Eugene that it will be too much. It will be a deterrent to recruiting members and be a large an inclusive organisation. I am sure it is no coincidence that the Philippines has an active and increasingly large community but no OSMF members at all. I suspect the solution is for you to simply negotiate a lower rate, but any other ideas are welcome. What would be a big win for all of us is to be collectively much bigger than we are now but still have a income to grow with. Nick has suggested 13,000, i.e. around 10% of folks who register an OSM account. That would certainly make us much more representative than our membership today of 160! Mike At 04:08 PM 6/08/2009, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: I think I mentioned this before but I disagree with the fee. In the draft agreement, the idea is to pay £10 for each member of the local chapter! I think this is too much. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM, maning sambale mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I added our plans to form an OSM-PH org here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chaptershttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters I also requested/nominated Entrhopia to take on the interim Sec/Treas position at the moment. Another thing we should look into: Local Chapters would pay the Foundation a fee based on the number of members (£10 is currently proposed). On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.mailto:r...@develo.ltd.ukr...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: Sorry I missed this. Yes, I still volunteer, and I'm going to the Phils in 3 weeks anyway, so if it will happen between 3 and 7 weeks from now, perfect! Ronny. Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Ronny volunteered to be one of the incorporators before: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.htmlhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.html On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner mailto:an...@enthropia.coman...@enthropia.com wrote: no responses yet, need 1 more, 4 cannot make a company, need 5 ___ talk-ph mailing list mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.orgtalk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.orgtalk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.orgtalk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.comhttp://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] some osm-ph stats (20090729)
At 02:06 AM 7/08/2009, maning sambale wrote: 3. Local contributors have overtaken Mike Collinson's contributions. Hehehe. I think Mike would love that to happen. Although 95% of total ways and nodes are from the top 20 contributors. I think 80-20 would be ideal. Yeah! No worries here! The progress in the Metro Manila map is just amazing, I sneak a peak at it every now and again. And thanks to Maning for some interesting stats. Mike ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] request for flickr map to use OSM in Manila and Davao
Excellent. The guy who put together the code that flips from Yahoo map tiles to OSM ones for certain parts of the world gave a talk at SOTM 2009. They host the tiles themselves and do not update them often. Since Flickr is partly or wholly owned by Yahoo, he admitted that they were not exactly in a hurry to convert to OSM, so it will be nice if they use Manila. We do have a great map now. He said that they first did it to get out of an embarassment in time for the Beijing Olympics. Their map of Beijing had two roads and the name Beijing, and that was about it. They have now extended to 16 cities as I recall, including Sydney. Mike At 04:38 AM 29/07/2009, maning sambale wrote: Hi, I use flickr.com all the time (maybe I should get a pro account). They have this cool feature to geocode pix within yahoomaps. But the yahoo! streetmap is not very good here. So I sent a message to flickr's senior engineer (summary below, orig message was more polite): Yahoo! streetmap not good in the Philipines, OSM wy better! Please use OSM data They said they will look into next week. Hope they do it since they are doing it in other cities anyway. -- cheers, maning ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Davao Mapping Party report
At 05:03 PM 6/07/2009, Marloue Pidor wrote: We're on the process of incorporating the PIOs into OSM. It a success next stop is Island Garden City of Samal (Samal Island) the resort island of Davao del Norte. Well, it is just a plan :) Congrats. Next stop a resort island? Its tough but someone has to do it! :-) OSM rule number 1: Have Fun. Mike ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] RFC: additional tags for amenity=banks
I think that sounds excellent. The tagging scheme is applicable globally and to not just banks but any retail activity. Mike At 03:37 AM 29/06/2009, maning sambale wrote: Hi, I would like to propose the following additional tags for bank POIs: amenity=bank name=Bank of the Philippines Islands short_name=BPI branch=Katipunan If its OK with the group, I can do a bulk edit adding the short_name for several banks like BPI, BDO, etc. Disclosure: I want to declutter bank names in my Garmin GPS map to something like BPI (Katipunan) instead of the usual name. -- cheers, maning ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] tag for vulcanizing shops
shop=vulcanizing +1 The shop tag is for any retail product or service. When we were debating its format, it seemed while there is a smallish set of natural core values like shop=supermarket, the larger set has to be tailored to individual countries' needs and cultures. Mike At 07:19 AM 17/06/2009, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. wrote: As OSM originated in the UK, they would write tyre rather than tire so it's hard to say which one to use. I think, to avoid confusion and because it's more accurate shop=vulcanizing is a good tag for a vulcanizing shop :) Ronny. Nacario Neil wrote: shop=vulcanizing or shop=tire - Original Message From: George Tujan mailto:gtu...@gmail.comgtu...@gmail.com To: maning sambale mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.orgtalk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 10:14:18 AM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] tag for vulcanizing shops why not just use amenity=vulcanizing? btw, what should be the attributes/tag for government offices? can we just set a generic tag (that will show up on the map) for POIs marked that will be updated/identified later? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 10:09 AM, maning sambalemailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: amenity=tire? -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.orgtalk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.orgtalk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.orgtalk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] tag for vulcanizing shops
At 08:46 AM 17/06/2009, maning sambale wrote: Just curious is this just a pinoy thing (vulcanizing)? Or we havesimilar shops like this in other countries. A Pinoy thing! ... I must admit when I first came to the Philippines I had to ask what it meant though I now understand it is the proper technical term. It is a fantastic name, I somehow expect to meet the god Vulcan every time I pass one. Mike ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] adding place reference to a POI
At 10:43 AM 21/05/2009, maning sambale wrote: Hi, Some GPS/data contributor (not osm contributor), suggested I add place reference to POI like in the name tag Jollibee (Morato) or Jollibee-Morato something. Adding this should allow referencing of POI names in GPS units. However, we have an is_in tag in OSM. I feel it's the gps map compiler (mkgmap) who should do the work for this. Any ideas? I agree. Me, I strictly name stores according to what the store itself says in its sign. It should not be difficult to write code to look at the is_in tag or addr:street tag and add it to the name. Mike ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] bulk import of wikipedia POIs to OSM
I kinda sit on the fence on both the legal issues and the desirability of bulk importing specifically Philippines data. For kicking off this discussion, I'd therefore suggest that we do not do a bulk import but that we do individually use the Wikipedia map location tool. I have found this very useful for broadly locating something I am looking for even when the exact location is not accurate (often). If list members have not come across this, there are often lat/lon coords in the top right of a Wikipedia article. Click on that and you are given a list of online maps, click on OpenStreetMap map and the on the usual OpenStreetMap Edit link. I then use the landsat imagery to precisely locate the feature I am looking for and manually create a tag or way ... or adding more information to a tag that is already there. I generally use it for getting names for rivers, mountains and towns. Mike At 09:08 AM 6/05/2009, maning sambale wrote: Over at the main OSM list, there is a discussion on importing POIs from wikipedia articles: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-May/036582.html The main discussion revolves around whether we should or shouldn't import given that some of the POIs location (lon/lat) maybe derived from Google Map. I'm not really familiar with wikipedia's POI data particularly for the Philippines. Do we need to add them here? Or there will be major conflicts with existing POIs we have already added. Any ideas? -- cheers, maning ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Yahoo!'s satellite imagery in Makati CBD is not good enough
At 11:26 AM 9/04/2009, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Hi all, I was doing some cleaning up and some building mapping in the Makati CBD area and I noticed that the satellite imagery in Yahoo! (provided by GeoEye) has some really bad stitching (multiple satellite imagery were stitched into one seamless mosaic). One particularly bad example is that Rufino St. (Herrera) is broken along Ayala Avenue. The stitching of the imagery seems to be along Ayala Avenue and Buendia. If you'll check out the parts of Buendia near the RCBC Plaza, you'll notice that there are two shadow images of Buendia there. I think this means that the data in the Makati CBD area might be quite off in some parts. I think that we need to supplement this with some really good GPS traces (the existing uploaded GPS traces are quite noisy) but the problem is the urban canyon effect that makes GPS a bit ineffective in this area. What do you guys think? I tried GPS mapping in Makati CBD before the imagery was available and found the GPS quality just awful, you are very polite :-) . I had a similar problem in Sydney CBD coupled with very oblique aerial imagery that obscures many of the roads. The best solution I came up with was to wander about and take lots of digital photographs down streets and then iteratively edit the map to get relative position looking right against the photos with the few spots of good imagery and GPS as a control for absolute position. Mike ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] State of the Map 2009
Dear Philippines' mappers, Early bird registration for State of the Map 2009 ends this Sunday 29th, March. OpenStreetMap's Third Annual International OpenStreetMap Conference is in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, July 10th - 12th, 2009. It is a great opportunity to meet your fellow mappers from all over the world. http://www.stateofthemap.org http://www.stateofthemap.org/register-now/ I will be there from Thursday night (9th) and will be happy to share a hotel room, probably at no cost, for all or some of the time if some one can make it. Mike ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] export current place names and relation
At 07:01 AM 20/03/2009, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. wrote: Hi, I was wondering, to prepare for the postcode and place name database, is it possible to export from OSM a list of the place names we currently have, what they are (city, town/municipality, province, etc.), and where they are (what province a town is in, etc.)? Ronny, You may be able to piggy-back on some work I have been doing to do just that. The easiest way to systematically get out lists of states, cities, towns, islands, ... etc within the Philippines is to use OSM XAPI http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Xapi Here is a command that you can paste in your browser to try. It should give you back every city in the Philippines by using a lat/lon bounding box. I've calculated the bounding box from GNS data. It should be accurate but there are sometimes spurious values that make it too big. http://xapi.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/node[place=city][bbox=116.65,4.59,126.60,21.113056] You can then use place=state, place=island ... to pull out other lists. I hope you can use XML data. If not, there are other options like Osmosis http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmosis, but I am not very familiar with them. From the sample below, you will see that I have tried to be systematic using is_in:* tags (is_in:country, is_in:state mostly). This will not give you an absolutely complete where they are picture as some folks will have added data without these tags. But it should give you a good start. Good luck and if there is any other help I can give, I am always lurking on this list! Mike ?xml version='1.0' standalone='no'? osm version='0.5' generator='osmxapi: OSM Extended API' xmlns:osmxapi='http://www.informationfreeway.org/osmxapi/0.5' osmxapi:uri='/api/0.5/node[place=city][bbox=116.65,4.59,126.60,21.113056]' osmxapi:planetDate='200903201005' osmxapi:copyright='2008 OpenStreetMap contributors' osmxapi:instance='zappyFafnir' node id='317949136' lat='18.1948661' lon='120.5934722' user='axk' osmxapi:users='ed_waypointsdotph,axk' timestamp='2009-01-28T17:58:49Z' tag k='is_in:country' v='Philippines'/ tag k='is_in:country_code' v='ph'/ tag k='is_in:state' v='Province of Ilocos Norte'/ tag k='name' v='Laoag City'/ tag k='place' v='city'/ /node node id='317949374' lat='16.4137024' lon='120.5914918' user='axk' osmxapi:users='ed_waypointsdotph,axk' timestamp='2009-01-28T17:58:46Z' tag k='is_in:country' v='Philippines'/ tag k='is_in:country_code' v='ph'/ tag k='is_in:state' v='Province of Benguet'/ tag k='name' v='Baguio City'/ tag k='place' v='city'/ /node /osm ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Tagging marine features (was: request edit for this month (coastline))
I've changed the subject to avoid hijacking the original thread. As Manning suggests, this is something we the Philippines OSM community can take a lead in. So far, I've not come up with a very large subsea list. Over the weekend I'll try and dig up a list of what GNS uses and how I have mapped some of them to new OSM tags. I have a strong background in marine earth science but zero feeling for what the yachting, boating and shipping community would like to see (sea?!) on maps so any comments on that very welcome. Another tag I have started using is name=xxx, place=archipelago for a group of islands. I can then tag islands with an extra is_in:archipelago=xxx tag. This generally works well except when there is a small group of islands inside a larger one. This then needs an island to be tagged with something like is_in:archipelago=Visayas;xxx which is a bit awkward. Mike At 03:17 AM 27/02/2009, maning sambale wrote: What are the common tags used for marine features? The map features seems too land-centric (for good reasons) but I think for archipelagic countries we need to map marine features as well. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: An interesting link, I am looking at it now. FYI, I have started experimentally mapping coral reef edges visible on landsat with a subsea=coral_reef way tag. I'd welcome anyone else to join in and share thoughts. I feel there should be a high-level subsea= tag to map point, lineal and area features that are always or normally underwater. The other main value I've started using is subsea=channel, name= for names of channels, sounds and straits gleaned from out-of-copyright maps. Mike At 03:05 AM 26/02/2009, maning sambale wrote: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For some excellent OC-OC tips on island mapping look here:http://www.evs-islands.com/ Mr. Minton previously used only LANDSAT data for his highly accurateisland maps. Some reefs are visible in LANDSAT. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Eureka!!! it worked na. And the newer version is so so much better pa! lalo na naman akong ginanahan! I will help with the coast lines. In fact even with Yahoo pa lang I did some coastline refining na especially in Anilao, Tingloy and Maricaban. And now, my alma mater reef: ligpo! :) ed On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:39 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Can you try the latest josm version? On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Maning, Still can't get the wmsplugin to load in my JOSM ... always comes up with the message could not load plugin wmsplugin. delete from preferences? help! :) ed On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:38 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: whew! finally finished masbate. Next will be Sibuyan! On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:47 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Here's what I did for Ticao Island: http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html?zoom=11lat=12.51694lon=123.72751layers=B00T On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:44 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, An appeal for editing this Month (February 2009). Coastline clean-up. We have one of the most extensive coastlines in the world. Currently OSM Philippines' coastline is a very rough import we made a few years back using medium resolution SRTM data.A lot of very small islands are not included in the SRTM import. I have started editing coastlines around Visayas (Biliran, Ticao and Masbate). I request all Philippine mappers to adapt a few island and give them some coastline love. You can easily do this with landsat imagery (available both on potlatch, josm, and merkaator). For very large ¨P3lZb Ï°- lZb landmasses like Luzon or Mindanao please split coastlines into manageable segments. Links to coastline editing: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcoastline http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- -- cheers,maning--Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Brandenwiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com
Re: [talk-ph] request edit for this month (coastline)
An interesting link, I am looking at it now. FYI, I have started experimentally mapping coral reef edges visible on landsat with a subsea=coral_reef way tag. I'd welcome anyone else to join in and share thoughts. I feel there should be a high-level subsea= tag to map point, lineal and area features that are always or normally underwater. The other main value I've started using is subsea=channel, name= for names of channels, sounds and straits gleaned from out-of-copyright maps. Mike At 03:05 AM 26/02/2009, maning sambale wrote: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For some excellent OC-OC tips on island mapping look here:http://www.evs-islands.com/ Mr. Minton previously used only LANDSAT data for his highly accurateisland maps. Some reefs are visible in LANDSAT. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Eureka!!! it worked na. And the newer version is so so much better pa! lalo na naman akong ginanahan! I will help with the coast lines. In fact even with Yahoo pa lang I did some coastline refining na especially in Anilao, Tingloy and Maricaban. And now, my alma mater reef: ligpo! :) ed On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:39 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Can you try the latest josm version? On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:03 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Maning, Still can't get the wmsplugin to load in my JOSM ... always comes up with the message could not load plugin wmsplugin. delete from preferences? help! :) ed On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:38 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: whew! finally finished masbate. Next will be Sibuyan! On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:47 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Here's what I did for Ticao Island: http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html?zoom=11lat=12.51694lon=123.72751layers=B00T On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:44 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, An appeal for editing this Month (February 2009). Coastline clean-up. We have one of the most extensive coastlines in the world. Currently OSM Philippines' coastline is a very rough import we made a few years back using medium resolution SRTM data.A lot of very small islands are not included in the SRTM import. I have started editing coastlines around Visayas (Biliran, Ticao and Masbate). I request all Philippine mappers to adapt a few island and give them some coastline love. You can easily do this with landsat imagery (available both on potlatch, josm, and merkaator). For very large Ï°-lZb landmasses like Luzon or Mindanao please split coastlines into manageable segments. Links to coastline editing: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcoastline http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- -- cheers,maning--Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Brandenwiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/-- ___talk-ph mailing listtalk...@openstreetmap.orghttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippines legal entity (was OSM Philippines meet-up)
At 12:58 PM 10/02/2009, maning sambale wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Good to see everyone there as well, and put faces to email addresses! maning sambale wrote, On Monday, February 09, 2009 11:17 AM: On forming an organization: We had a previous mail discussion on should we have a formal organization representing OSM Philippines so this was a main discussion point in Grappas. Basically two points were raised: 1. There is a need to create a legal personality for OSM Philippines One other alternate approach we discussed was to use the main London OSM body as a representative. Its unclear exactly how this would work though. Time zones would undoubtedly be tricky but it might be good as a stopgap. @ Mike Collinson - is this possible? Or any updates on the local chapter plans? To all - please have a look at Andre's email: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-February/000446.html No update that I am aware of. Certainly we as OSM Foundation will do our best to accommodate a structure that keeps your costs to a minimum or preferably zero. The only checkpoint that I can think of for us is that Etienne as Treasurer can see proper control if money is involved, for example local membership dues. To help, it is important to understand the need for a legal personality and then do what it takes . In the past, I've been a member of clubs around the world that had a written constitution and an Annual General Meeting but no official registration that I was aware of. Is it a strict legal necessity in the Philippines or something gives an air of formality when dealing with such people as local government? Can you open a club bank account without SEC registration? Do you actually need/want a bank account? For Etienne and Nick, in the Philippines it is common practice to register an organization/club with the Securities and Exchange Commission as a non-profit. If I am paraphrasing earlier list discussions correctly, this involves a lot of paperwork and has potentially prohibitive costs. Mike ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] supporting OSM Philippines and representing OSM Philippines to various orgs.
Maning, Eugene, Nick, I am cc'ing Nick Black for his info. He is my fellow OSMF board member who is working on the structure and procedure for OSMF local chapters. It certainly would be great to see a Philippines chapter forming; a very vibrant community is developing and I think you guys are gaining a lot of experience in getting local government and other data contributions that we'd all like to know about. Mike At 01:33 PM 27/01/2009, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: The OSMF has a plan on having local chapters, somewhat similar in style to the Wikimedia Foundation's chapters. That's the only way we can represent OSM in a legal and official sense. But basing on the currently ongoing plans of setting up a Wikimedia Philippines chapter since 2007, I doubt that we can create an OpenStreetMap Philippines organization anytime soon after the OSMF has approved the policies for setting up local chapters. Then again, there are plenty of people in this mailing list that have experience setting up SEC-registered companies. In Wikipedia, we are all just a bunch of academically-inclined people. :-) On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:11 PM, maning sambale mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am receiving emails lately on how to support OSM Philippines. The natural response I give is: join OSM, collect data, edit the database, tell your friends about OSM Philippines. Do we need more support other than what I mentioned? Do we need event sponsors, funds, free beer? On another side of the coin, I also approach some orgs (particularly LGUs) to support or provide data for OSM Philippines. The usual response is: we want to know more about your organization so we can discuss it. Well, we don't have any formal org. What legal basis can we represent OSM Phil to these organizations? Is anybody a member of the OSM foundation? Perhaps we can capitalize on such affiliation. Any ideas? Or we just keep on mapping (me thinks we should). -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.orgtalk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.comhttp://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] natural=peak GNS upload complete
Hi Maning and list, As requested, I've uploaded full set of Philippine mountain and hill names found in the US government's GNS dataset. You should start to see these appearing in the Osmarender map view and in Mapnik next week. I've also uploaded names of mountain ranges as place=mountain_range . These will not render out but are there for search use. I keep a full file of all the node numbers, so if there are any systematic issues, do let me know because I can easily make a mass change. GNS data is not always entirely accurate and is if coarse resolution so the tags will rarely exactly overlie the landsat image of the peak they represent, so do please feel free to edit away! There will also be some duplication with your own entries to be merged. I'd appreciate if is_in tag information is preserved as I am slowly working on a gazeteer that can be browsed on a province by province basis. A Happy 2009 of mapping to all! Mike ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Broadening coverage.
Excellent! The ability to use OSM data as a national search and location resource for overseas tourism promotion provides a serious demonstration of the value of what we are doing. I've mapped in each and every Boracay hotel and just used tourism=hotel but any other information, even if you invent your own tags is always useful. It is nice to know if I am booking my family into a resort not a short-time hotel :-) I do not know if it is practical for you but another suggestion is to provide as much supplementary information as possible. It is very easy to write scripts to pull out a list of hotels for an area someone is interested in if this sort of tagging is used: tourism=hotel name=The Nice Hotel is_in:country=Philippines is_in:state=Xxx Province is_in:island=Panglao is_in:beach=Alona Beach ... Mike At 03:05 PM 14/01/2009, Ed Garcia wrote: Regarding resorts listed at waypointsdotph ... no problem ... I will have those resorts that have coordinates added to OSM. Btw, what tag will we use for resorts? will we simply use Hotel? As to contact numbers. You can use the ones listed on the website. I can give Maning the list. Though I already tried to ask the resorts that do not have gps coordinates to to send in their coordinates but they usually do not have access to GPS receivers. And locating and pinpointing their establishments on the current map is not easy either especially for resorts in the provinces. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 6:03 PM, maning sambale mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Great idea! Feel free to improve this for the Philippine setting: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Weekend_mapping_projects/Form_lettershttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Weekend_mapping_projects/Form_letters Some tips in writing press releases: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Writing_a_press_releasehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Writing_a_press_release It occured to me as I was browsing some of the resorts, that this would be a good way to get more people hooked in. All the resorts have bad instructions on how to get there, and most of them are in fairly remote areas. So, if we were to approach them and suggest that they make sure their bit of the Philippines is on the map, then they can use OSM as a resource on their websites, to make sure that customers (especially ones with GPS!) can find them. Some resorts are in Ed's webpage: http://www.waypoints.phwww.waypoints.ph Maybe Ed can also help us with contacts. Informal/personal/social contacts sends the message across a lot easier. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.orgtalk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- website administrator: - http://www.waypoints.phwww.waypoints.ph - http://reeflife.eppgarcia.comreeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
