Re: [talk-ph] Tubbataha is way off

2014-09-10 Thread maning sambale
Investigating on this further, I plotted the Tubbataha Reefs Natural
Park coordinates from RA 10067 [0] which corresponds closely in the
data in OSM (red outline is the plotted coordinates) [1].  Note that
this is a direct coordinate translation, I didn't bothered to convert
to PRS92 as mentioned in the RA, since I don't expect very large shift
from WGS84 to PRS92.

Other diving websites showing coordinates of Tubbataha features (i.e.
lighthouse, ranger station) also corresponds closely to the current
data in OSM.
Further, if you squint a little bit in the image, I loaded the MapBox
satellite layer and the reef is barely visible.

In short, the imagery from Bing is most likely wrong in this area.

[0] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2010-December/002792.html
[1] https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5570/15193057301_9d7d35fb10_o.png

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:54 AM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not as bad as the PH one thousand bill [0], but, Tubbataha [1] seems
 way of from satellite imagery [2] by ~14 km.

 Free beer or a drink of your choice to someone who can verify with gps
 tracks. ;)

 [0] 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_one_thousand_peso_bill#mediaviewer/File:New_PHP1000_Banknote_%28Reverse%29.jpg
 [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/280149159
 [2] https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3843/15008702547_903ca12979_o.png


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Re: [talk-ph] Tubbataha is way off

2014-09-10 Thread Ervin Malicdem
Mapbox does show a faint outline however it has a small nook on the South
Islet that agrees with Bing.

The contributor however specified that the source of the contribution is
using survey thereby making it supposedly more reliable than the imagery.
It would be great if he can provide a trace.. or better yet for me to get
funding to get there. Its too expensive to get there as of the moment.
Any coast guards on a mission there who would like to hitch me up? :)



Ervin M.
*Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own
motherland.
http://www.s1expeditions.com

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:38 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Investigating on this further, I plotted the Tubbataha Reefs Natural
 Park coordinates from RA 10067 [0] which corresponds closely in the
 data in OSM (red outline is the plotted coordinates) [1].  Note that
 this is a direct coordinate translation, I didn't bothered to convert
 to PRS92 as mentioned in the RA, since I don't expect very large shift
 from WGS84 to PRS92.

 Other diving websites showing coordinates of Tubbataha features (i.e.
 lighthouse, ranger station) also corresponds closely to the current
 data in OSM.
 Further, if you squint a little bit in the image, I loaded the MapBox
 satellite layer and the reef is barely visible.

 In short, the imagery from Bing is most likely wrong in this area.

 [0]
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2010-December/002792.html
 [1] https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5570/15193057301_9d7d35fb10_o.png

 On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:54 AM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
  Not as bad as the PH one thousand bill [0], but, Tubbataha [1] seems
  way of from satellite imagery [2] by ~14 km.
 
  Free beer or a drink of your choice to someone who can verify with gps
  tracks. ;)
 
  [0]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_one_thousand_peso_bill#mediaviewer/File:New_PHP1000_Banknote_%28Reverse%29.jpg
  [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/280149159
  [2] https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3843/15008702547_903ca12979_o.png
 
 
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  cheers,
  maning
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  wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
  blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
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[talk-ph] Tubbataha is way off

2014-09-09 Thread maning sambale
Not as bad as the PH one thousand bill [0], but, Tubbataha [1] seems
way of from satellite imagery [2] by ~14 km.

Free beer or a drink of your choice to someone who can verify with gps
tracks. ;)

[0] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_one_thousand_peso_bill#mediaviewer/File:New_PHP1000_Banknote_%28Reverse%29.jpg
[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/280149159
[2] https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3843/15008702547_903ca12979_o.png


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