Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs
Hi. Reviving this thread, I have updated the POI list and some recommended tagging as previously discussed here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/PH:Map_Features It is just a list at the moment, hope we can add more and agree on the general tagging. Some questions: 1. We have discussed before that POIs inside buildings (malls) shouldn't be mapped, is it the same with public wet/dry markets? 2. There is a thin boundary between the tag shop and amenity. cheers, maning On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Mike Collinsonm...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Interesting, when I went through the genuine tag values, the only ones I would not use as a matter of course in Sweden where these: shop:pasalubong 1 (though shop:souvenir might substitute) shop:vulcanizing 1 shop:wet market 1 amenity:vegetable market 1 amenity:tricycle_station 2 amenity:ice plant 1 amenity:Brgy Pag-asa Hall 1 (though some of the amenity= I would tag as shop=) Mike At 04:09 AM 19/06/2009, ian lopez wrote: you missed out one: shop=luxury_goods ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/420221231 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1560039 ) --- On Fri, 6/19/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:16 AM Here are some POI tags we have for the Phil amenity and shop shop:mall 105 shop:convenience 104 shop:supermarket 87 shop:bakery 39 shop:car 33 shop:hardware 20 shop:car_repair 18 shop:car_dealer 17 shop:bicycle 16 shop:department_store 8 shop:doityourself 8 shop:books 6 shop:outdoor 6 shop:beverages 5 shop:computer 4 shop:garden 3 shop:home_furnishing 3 shop:electronics 3 shop:florist 3 shop:airline_office 3 shop:repair_service 3 shop:butcher 3 shop:laundry 2 shop:uknown 2 shop:unknown 2 shop:stationery 2 shop:scuba 2 shop:antiques 1 shop:photo 1 shop:pasalubong 1 shop:tailor 1 shop:vulcanizing 1 shop:wet market 1 shop:wine 1 shop:printing 1 shop:public_building 1 shop:public_market 1 shop:shopping_centre 1 shop:SM 1 shop:Parco Supermarket 1 shop:antique 1 shop:Shoe_store 1 shop:Evergotesco mall 1 shop:Car Mechanics 1 shop:Mall 1 shop:Lapos;Air Boutique amp; Guesthouse 1 shop:office supplies 1 shop:lumber 1 shop:general 1 shop:mobile_phone 1 shop:marketplace 1 shop:business_services 1 shop:auto repair 1 shop:garden_centre 1 shop:elctronics 1 amenity:fuel 1159 amenity:school 958 amenity:place_of_worship 771 amenity:bank 565 amenity:public_building 499 amenity:restaurant 449 amenity:fast_food 333 amenity:hospital 272 amenity:parking 241 amenity:police 175 amenity:college 117 amenity:pharmacy 116 amenity:fire_station 96 amenity:bus_station 81 amenity:university 70 amenity:public_market 59 amenity:cafe 51 amenity:atm 44 amenity:pub 42 amenity:post_office 27 amenity:townhall 22 amenity:bureau_de_change 17 amenity:cinema 17 amenity:library 12 amenity:toilets 11 amenity:rescue 10 amenity:kindergarten 9 amenity:clinic 8 amenity:market 7 amenity:town_hall 6 amenity:prison 5 amenity:arts_centre 5 amenity:embassy 5 amenity:car_rental 5 amenity:studio 5 amenity:doctors 5 amenity:ferry_terminal 4 amenity:theatre 4 amenity:thetre 4 amenity:bicycle_parking 4 amenity:funeral_services 4 amenity:telephone 4 amenity:airline_office 4 amenity:grave_yard 3 amenity:preschool 3 amenity:fountain 3 amenity:Subdivision 3 amenity:biergarten 3 amenity:veterinary 3 amenity:nightclub 2 amenity:public building 2 amenity:tricycle_station 2 amenity:subdivision 2 amenity:swimming_pool 2 amenity:coffee_shop 2 amenity:bar 2 amenity:courthouse 2 amenity:dentist 2 amenity:bench 2 amenity:CheckPoint 2 amenity:Graveyard 2 amenity:Place of Worship 1 amenity:resort 1 amenity:v junction lhs 1 amenity:vegetable market 1 amenity:wrecker_service 1 amenity:retail 1 amenity:slaughterhouse 1 amenity:undefined 1 amenity:Petron Station 1 amenity:Municipal Building 1 amenity:Building 1 amenity:bank;atm 1 amenity:apartment 1 amenity:Residential Condo Units 1 amenity:Police station 1 amenity:Brgy Pag-asa Hall 1 amenity:Bar and Entertainment 1 amenity:Bakery 1 amenity:Metrobank Angono 1 amenity:Memorial Park 1 amenity:Lopez park 1 amenity:Cemetery 1 amenity:marketplace 1 amenity:lake 1 amenity:internet 1 amenity:drinking_water 1 amenity:post_box 1 amenity:pool 1 amenity:police station 1
Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs
of such a generic tag, but yes seems to be dominating: shop=yes (213 existing) shop=shop (123 existing) shop=other (54 existing) shop=whatever (15 existing) shop=undefined (14 existing) shop=unknown (13 existing) shop=? (12 existing) shop=FIXME (10 existing) shop=misc (8 existing) shop=y (8 existing) shop= (8 existing) shop=empty (6 existing) -- although this may mean that the shop is vacant? shop=??? (2 existing) shop=Y (2 existing) shop=uknown [sic] (2 existing) shop=* (2 existing) shop=XXX-Fixme: unknown (2 existing) Is there any way to do a global search/replace on tags that are obvious misspellings or that need to be normalized, such as all the above? I also noticed there is shop=betting, shop=bookmaker and shop=gambling. Are anyone tagging those secret places where the jueting agents get their numbers? :) Also I've found a couple of interesting ones: for junk shops: shop=junk (5 existing) (there's also shop=second_hand, 5 existing) for vulcanizing shops: shop=tyres (26 existing) for pasalubong shops: shop=gifts (22 existing) or shop=gift (13 existing) for palengke: shop=wet_market (10 existing) for shoe shine/repair people with a fixed space: shop=shoe_repair (6 existing) or shop=shoemaker (5) for LPG stalls: shop=gas (2 existing) for the strawberry stalls along the way to Baguio: shop=fruit (21 existing) for the fish stalls along the way to various coastal towns: shop=fish (46 existing) (the two last ones are a bit less serious, but you can't argue it's not useful to have them there) or what about shop=sex for certain bars you should not venture into? OK that was maybe taking it a bit far, but apparently there are 16 such shops tagged already :) I've also seen semicolon in use, for example shop=sport;bicycle;outdoor Maybe we could use this to add our local flair, which is useful for Pinoys, such as shop=gifts;pasalubong ? Is this a good way, or is it better to generalize as much as possible? How will GPSs deal with that (semi colon separated tags)? I've also seen shop=car;car_repair and shop=car, car_repair, and I believe I've seen tags with | as well earlier. So which one is it, comma, semicolon or pipe? Also, is singular or plural recommended? I've seen both gift an gifts. I'm thinking singular would mke most sense, but I'm not sure. Ronny. George Tujan wrote: can we setup a generic tag for POIs? so that when a contributor has doubt on what tags to use they can just use the generic tag then either update it or let others update it later On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: Very interesting conversation! I often wonder which tag to put on certain POIs and sometimes resort to guessing, which of course is not good. What if we use this discussion as a basis for a wiki page for Pinoy POIs, sort of like a dictionary of amenities, like: MMDA urinals - see toilets Toilets - amenity=toilets; fee=yes/no Newspaper stand - shop=newsagent Cockfighting arena - sport=cockfighting Multipurpose hall - building=yes; amenity=public_building etc. I would include the generic world wide ones as well, so we can use this as a guideline for how to tag stuff when in doubt. Or is there already such a page? Ronny. ian lopez wrote: For pay toilets, amenity=toilets; fee=yes, while shop=newsagent is for newspaper stands (I think). for DVD shops, I think that there is no tag for it. The big G has Quiapo DVD (somewhat prominent when you look at it), but I think that we can't tag it since it is somewhat illegal. Basketball courts are easy, use sport=basketball. AFAIK, multipurpose buildings should be building=yes, amenity=public_building. In some places, I tag cockfighting arenas as sport=cockfighting, though a good number of people outside the Philippines do not consider sabong as a sport (and illegal in some places). Yellow Cab is a pizza place, most likely to be tagged as amenity=restaurant. Regarding MMDA's urinals, it should be amenity=toilets, fee=no (from what I know, most, if not all of its urinals are used for free), operator=Metropolitan Manila Development Authority --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 5:08 PM (not all are distinctly ph poi's, but for the sake of discussion, here are some POI examples i know or don't know): -Ukay-ukay / Wagwagan -Hilot (manghihilot / mangtatawas) -Daycare - is this classified as a school? -Multipurpose Hall / Barangay Covered Courts - that cannot be plainly classified as basketball court. -Store that only sells LPG tank (gasul) -Junkshop (buy and sells scrap) -Store that primarily sells reconditioned and surplus equipments (eg. HMR) -Barangay Outpost or Police Outpost (small booth
Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs
you missed out one: shop=luxury_goods ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/420221231 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1560039 ) --- On Fri, 6/19/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:16 AM Here are some POI tags we have for the Phil amenity and shop shop:mall 105 shop:convenience 104 shop:supermarket 87 shop:bakery 39 shop:car 33 shop:hardware 20 shop:car_repair 18 shop:car_dealer 17 shop:bicycle 16 shop:department_store 8 shop:doityourself 8 shop:books 6 shop:outdoor 6 shop:beverages 5 shop:computer 4 shop:garden 3 shop:home_furnishing 3 shop:electronics 3 shop:florist 3 shop:airline_office 3 shop:repair_service 3 shop:butcher 3 shop:laundry 2 shop:uknown 2 shop:unknown 2 shop:stationery 2 shop:scuba 2 shop:antiques 1 shop:photo 1 shop:pasalubong 1 shop:tailor 1 shop:vulcanizing 1 shop:wet market 1 shop:wine 1 shop:printing 1 shop:public_building 1 shop:public_market 1 shop:shopping_centre 1 shop:SM 1 shop:Parco Supermarket 1 shop:antique 1 shop:Shoe_store 1 shop:Evergotesco mall 1 shop:Car Mechanics 1 shop:Mall 1 shop:Lapos;Air Boutique amp; Guesthouse 1 shop:office supplies 1 shop:lumber 1 shop:general 1 shop:mobile_phone 1 shop:marketplace 1 shop:business_services 1 shop:auto repair 1 shop:garden_centre 1 shop:elctronics 1 amenity:fuel 1159 amenity:school 958 amenity:place_of_worship 771 amenity:bank 565 amenity:public_building 499 amenity:restaurant 449 amenity:fast_food 333 amenity:hospital 272 amenity:parking 241 amenity:police 175 amenity:college 117 amenity:pharmacy 116 amenity:fire_station 96 amenity:bus_station 81 amenity:university 70 amenity:public_market 59 amenity:cafe 51 amenity:atm 44 amenity:pub 42 amenity:post_office 27 amenity:townhall 22 amenity:bureau_de_change 17 amenity:cinema 17 amenity:library 12 amenity:toilets 11 amenity:rescue 10 amenity:kindergarten 9 amenity:clinic 8 amenity:market 7 amenity:town_hall 6 amenity:prison 5 amenity:arts_centre 5 amenity:embassy 5 amenity:car_rental 5 amenity:studio 5 amenity:doctors 5 amenity:ferry_terminal 4 amenity:theatre 4 amenity:thetre 4 amenity:bicycle_parking 4 amenity:funeral_services 4 amenity:telephone 4 amenity:airline_office 4 amenity:grave_yard 3 amenity:preschool 3 amenity:fountain 3 amenity:Subdivision 3 amenity:biergarten 3 amenity:veterinary 3 amenity:nightclub 2 amenity:public building 2 amenity:tricycle_station 2 amenity:subdivision 2 amenity:swimming_pool 2 amenity:coffee_shop 2 amenity:bar 2 amenity:courthouse 2 amenity:dentist 2 amenity:bench 2 amenity:CheckPoint 2 amenity:Graveyard 2 amenity:Place of Worship 1 amenity:resort 1 amenity:v junction lhs 1 amenity:vegetable market 1 amenity:wrecker_service 1 amenity:retail 1 amenity:slaughterhouse 1 amenity:undefined 1 amenity:Petron Station 1 amenity:Municipal Building 1 amenity:Building 1 amenity:bank;atm 1 amenity:apartment 1 amenity:Residential Condo Units 1 amenity:Police station 1 amenity:Brgy Pag-asa Hall 1 amenity:Bar and Entertainment 1 amenity:Bakery 1 amenity:Metrobank Angono 1 amenity:Memorial Park 1 amenity:Lopez park 1 amenity:Cemetery 1 amenity:marketplace 1 amenity:lake 1 amenity:internet 1 amenity:drinking_water 1 amenity:post_box 1 amenity:pool 1 amenity:police station 1 amenity:petron Station 1 amenity:convenience_store 1 amenity:car_wash 1 amenity:beauty parlor 1 amenity:ice plant 1 amenity:hair salon 1 amenity:funeral 1 amenity:event_venue 1 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs
maning sambale wrote, On Wednesday, 17 June, 2009 03:10 PM: I have always been wondering how we tag features that are distinctly Filipino. Often I encounter a feature that is not the Map Feature like vulcanizing. Or maybe we should try to fit them into more generic tags where possible? If every country has a different tag for essentially a common service it will become very difficult to make a custom map renderer which works over all countries. For example. - tricycle terminal - could be marked as a general transport terminal and the name would reflect the fact it was a tricycle terminal. - talipapa = amenity=market, and the name contains talipapa - pasalubong/souvenir shops = shop=souvenir ? - small stores (sari-sari) = shop=convenience ? - MMDA pink urinals :) = OK you got me. - Vulcanizing = shop=car_repair My point is that we shouldn't be making things unncessarily complicated. If people come from outside of the Philippines and want to buy a can of coke, then they don't need to know that a sari-sari store will sell one to them. So you're making it easier for people to find what they want. (Got some ideas for this email from this rather cool site; http://osmdoc.com/en/tag/shop/ ) Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 920 912 5830 Hong Kong: +852 9100 7586 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs
Very interesting conversation! I often wonder which tag to put on certain POIs and sometimes resort to guessing, which of course is not good. What if we use this discussion as a basis for a wiki page for Pinoy POIs, sort of like a dictionary of amenities, like: MMDA urinals - see toilets Toilets - amenity=toilets; fee=yes/no Newspaper stand - shop=newsagent Cockfighting arena - sport=cockfighting Multipurpose hall - building=yes; amenity=public_building etc. I would include the generic world wide ones as well, so we can use this as a guideline for how to tag stuff when in doubt. Or is there already such a page? Ronny. ian lopez wrote: For pay toilets, amenity=toilets; fee=yes, while shop=newsagent is for newspaper stands (I think). for DVD shops, I think that there is no tag for it. The big G has Quiapo DVD (somewhat prominent when you look at it), but I think that we can't tag it since it is somewhat illegal. Basketball courts are easy, use sport=basketball. AFAIK, multipurpose buildings should be building=yes, amenity=public_building. In some places, I tag cockfighting arenas as sport=cockfighting, though a good number of people outside the Philippines do not consider sabong as a sport (and illegal in some places). Yellow Cab is a pizza place, most likely to be tagged as amenity=restaurant. Regarding MMDA's urinals, it should be amenity=toilets, fee=no (from what I know, most, if not all of its urinals are used for free), operator=Metropolitan Manila Development Authority --- On *Wed, 6/17/09, Rally de Leon /rall...@gmail.com/* wrote: From: Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 5:08 PM (not all are distinctly ph poi's, but for the sake of discussion, here are some POI examples i know or don't know): -Ukay-ukay / Wagwagan -Hilot (manghihilot / mangtatawas) -Daycare - is this classified as a school? -Multipurpose Hall / Barangay Covered Courts - that cannot be plainly classified as basketball court. -Store that only sells LPG tank (gasul) -Junkshop (buy and sells scrap) -Store that primarily sells reconditioned and surplus equipments (eg. HMR) -Barangay Outpost or Police Outpost (small booth only, not barangay hall or police station) -FX Terminal (including a tag for their route destination, eg. crossing, ayala, megamall) -Newspaper stand (Tabloid / Broadsheet) - some sari-sari store sell newspaper, bulgar, taliba, most don't. -Pay Restrooms (distinction between free/public and pay restroom) -Auction houses/yard like the ones in subic (or are these just considered buildings?) -DIY shop that is specialized in electronic/speaker/radio parts, not a typical hardware (Raon-type of store, more like a radioshack equivalent, or Kuryente) - or just generalize this as hardware shop? -free-standing betting stations/ pagcor / lotto outlets and alikes -DVD DVD (or is this supposed to be secret) ;-) -clear and easy guideline which are considered fastfood and restaurant. as we don't want too many POI icons on the map. Eg. If you pay first (at the counter before you eat), then it's FASTFOOD (eg. mcdo, jollibee, greenwich, and those at regular food courts, including burger machine and good burger). If you eat-first-then-pay-the-bill, then we generally put it under RESTAURANT (especially if there's a waiter). except for the free-standing semi-permanent fishball/isaw/shawarma stand/kiosk (and alikes) where you eat first, then pay all the fishballs you've eaten. Is this classified as fastfood or simply snack stand? So is yellow cab or goldilocks a restaurant or a fastfood? i believe goldilocks and redribbon falls under bakeshop? so therefore, as long as they sell cake, even if they sell fastfood, the priority tag must be bakeshop. is this ok? that way, we use lesser and easier to identify POI icons (for use on mobile devices) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org /mc/compose?to=talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs
can we setup a generic tag for POIs? so that when a contributor has doubt on what tags to use they can just use the generic tag then either update it or let others update it later On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: Very interesting conversation! I often wonder which tag to put on certain POIs and sometimes resort to guessing, which of course is not good. What if we use this discussion as a basis for a wiki page for Pinoy POIs, sort of like a dictionary of amenities, like: MMDA urinals - see toilets Toilets - amenity=toilets; fee=yes/no Newspaper stand - shop=newsagent Cockfighting arena - sport=cockfighting Multipurpose hall - building=yes; amenity=public_building etc. I would include the generic world wide ones as well, so we can use this as a guideline for how to tag stuff when in doubt. Or is there already such a page? Ronny. ian lopez wrote: For pay toilets, amenity=toilets; fee=yes, while shop=newsagent is for newspaper stands (I think). for DVD shops, I think that there is no tag for it. The big G has Quiapo DVD (somewhat prominent when you look at it), but I think that we can't tag it since it is somewhat illegal. Basketball courts are easy, use sport=basketball. AFAIK, multipurpose buildings should be building=yes, amenity=public_building. In some places, I tag cockfighting arenas as sport=cockfighting, though a good number of people outside the Philippines do not consider sabong as a sport (and illegal in some places). Yellow Cab is a pizza place, most likely to be tagged as amenity=restaurant. Regarding MMDA's urinals, it should be amenity=toilets, fee=no (from what I know, most, if not all of its urinals are used for free), operator=Metropolitan Manila Development Authority --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 5:08 PM (not all are distinctly ph poi's, but for the sake of discussion, here are some POI examples i know or don't know): -Ukay-ukay / Wagwagan -Hilot (manghihilot / mangtatawas) -Daycare - is this classified as a school? -Multipurpose Hall / Barangay Covered Courts - that cannot be plainly classified as basketball court. -Store that only sells LPG tank (gasul) -Junkshop (buy and sells scrap) -Store that primarily sells reconditioned and surplus equipments (eg. HMR) -Barangay Outpost or Police Outpost (small booth only, not barangay hall or police station) -FX Terminal (including a tag for their route destination, eg. crossing, ayala, megamall) -Newspaper stand (Tabloid / Broadsheet) - some sari-sari store sell newspaper, bulgar, taliba, most don't. -Pay Restrooms (distinction between free/public and pay restroom) -Auction houses/yard like the ones in subic (or are these just considered buildings?) -DIY shop that is specialized in electronic/speaker/radio parts, not a typical hardware (Raon-type of store, more like a radioshack equivalent, or Kuryente) - or just generalize this as hardware shop? -free-standing betting stations/ pagcor / lotto outlets and alikes -DVD DVD (or is this supposed to be secret) ;-) -clear and easy guideline which are considered fastfood and restaurant. as we don't want too many POI icons on the map. Eg. If you pay first (at the counter before you eat), then it's FASTFOOD (eg. mcdo, jollibee, greenwich, and those at regular food courts, including burger machine and good burger). If you eat-first-then-pay-the-bill, then we generally put it under RESTAURANT (especially if there's a waiter). except for the free-standing semi-permanent fishball/isaw/shawarma stand/kiosk (and alikes) where you eat first, then pay all the fishballs you've eaten. Is this classified as fastfood or simply snack stand? So is yellow cab or goldilocks a restaurant or a fastfood? i believe goldilocks and redribbon falls under bakeshop? so therefore, as long as they sell cake, even if they sell fastfood, the priority tag must be bakeshop. is this ok? that way, we use lesser and easier to identify POI icons (for use on mobile devices) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs
=toilets, fee=no (from what I know, most, if not all of its urinals are used for free), operator=Metropolitan Manila Development Authority --- On Wed, 6/17/09, Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rally de Leon rall...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 5:08 PM (not all are distinctly ph poi's, but for the sake of discussion, here are some POI examples i know or don't know): -Ukay-ukay / Wagwagan -Hilot (manghihilot / mangtatawas) -Daycare - is this classified as a school? -Multipurpose Hall / Barangay Covered Courts - that cannot be plainly classified as basketball court. -Store that only sells LPG tank (gasul) -Junkshop (buy and sells scrap) -Store that primarily sells reconditioned and surplus equipments (eg. HMR) -Barangay Outpost or Police Outpost (small booth only, not barangay hall or police station) -FX Terminal (including a tag for their route destination, eg. crossing, ayala, megamall) -Newspaper stand (Tabloid / Broadsheet) - some sari-sari store sell newspaper, bulgar, taliba, most don't. -Pay Restrooms (distinction between free/public and pay restroom) -Auction houses/yard like the ones in subic (or are these just considered buildings?) -DIY shop that is specialized in electronic/speaker/radio parts, not a typical hardware (Raon-type of store, more like a radioshack equivalent, or Kuryente) - or just generalize this as hardware shop? -free-standing betting stations/ pagcor / lotto outlets and alikes -DVD DVD (or is this supposed to be secret) ;-) -clear and easy guideline which are considered fastfood and restaurant. as we don't want too many POI icons on the map. Eg. If you pay first (at the counter before you eat), then it's FASTFOOD (eg. mcdo, jollibee, greenwich, and those at regular food courts, including burger machine and good burger). If you eat-first-then-pay-the-bill, then we generally put it under RESTAURANT (especially if there's a waiter). except for the free-standing semi-permanent fishball/isaw/shawarma stand/kiosk (and alikes) where you eat first, then pay all the fishballs you've eaten. Is this classified as fastfood or simply snack stand? So is yellow cab or goldilocks a restaurant or a fastfood? i believe goldilocks and redribbon falls under bakeshop? so therefore, as long as they sell cake, even if they sell fastfood, the priority tag must be bakeshop. is this ok? that way, we use lesser and easier to identify POI icons (for use on mobile devices) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
