Re: [Talk-transit] Question about train stations

2023-10-27 Thread Greg Troxel
Giulio Barba  writes:

> Hi, I'm writing to get your opinion on train stations.
> In particular in reality the train stations used as attractions within the
> theme parks.
> In your opinion, should these stations be tagged using the
> "public_transport" key?

I see multiple shades of gray:

  1) true public transport - trains that are operated and used because
  people want to get from one place to another place

  2) tourist trains that go somewhere -- trains that travel over real
  tracks for a considerable distance -- but where the point is the ride,
  and you often drive in a car to the start and the train ends in the
  same place

  3) entertainment rides of small scale, like a 1-mile loop, contained
  within the grounds of an amusement park

  4) things that used to be train stations and look like train stations
  but that do not have trains picking up and discharging passengers


I see only (1) as appropriate for public transport tags.

2 and probably 3 still deserve railway tags, station tags, etc. -- but
not "public transport".  public transport is about a service being
offered beyond the physical ability for trains to arrive, be boarded and
leave.

As for 4, it's not even a train station.  It's a building that used to
be a train station.

As a test, I'd ask "can you decide to ride from station A to station B,
for any pair of stations, and make that work, as a way to get there".
If you can, it's public transport.  If not, probably not.  (Yes, I know
sometimes you have to switch trains, express trains don't stop at many
stations, etc.  But you know what I mean, I'm pretty sure.)

Also, if you can only ride it if you've paid admission, and you can only
travel from within the admission boundary to other places within the
admission boundary, it isn't *public* transport.

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Re: [Talk-transit] Question about train stations

2023-10-27 Thread Christopher Parker via Talk-transit
I imagine the consequence of such tagging affects open Railway map?  Generally 
in the us it seems to show such stations as public transit, but maybe this is 
very country specific, of even site specific?
In my opinion it would be required that the station serve a railway line which 
on could purchase tickets or ride free in order to be tagged as public 
transport but I even wonder about Stations that once were active

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> On Oct 27, 2023, at 12:04 PM, Giulio Barba  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I'm writing to get your opinion on train stations.
> In particular in reality the train stations used as attractions within the 
> theme parks.
> In your opinion, should these stations be tagged using the "public_transport" 
> key?
> Or given the type of service, is it not public transport?
> I also consulted the Italian list and different opinions were given.
> 
> Thank you all.
> Giulio Barba
> 
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[Talk-transit] Question about train stations

2023-10-27 Thread Giulio Barba
Hi, I'm writing to get your opinion on train stations.
In particular in reality the train stations used as attractions within the
theme parks.
In your opinion, should these stations be tagged using the
"public_transport" key?
Or given the type of service, is it not public transport?
I also consulted the Italian list and different opinions were given.

Thank you all.
Giulio Barba
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