Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] NaPTAN - Time for the rest?

2010-03-17 Thread Richard Mann
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Mark Williams
mark@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
 Gregory wrote:
 It only appears to go to Zoom 13 though - not quite big enough to read
 the print, without getting out of my chair...

It goes all the way to z18, but just gives you a blank if you go
somewhere it's not rendered. Blanks get rendered on demand, so go back
when it's had a chance to render them. I haven't figured out quite how
often it updates, but it's probably roughly weekly.

Richard

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Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] NaPTAN - Time for the rest?

2010-03-16 Thread Sam Vekemans
Can a WMS tileserver.map be generated (from the source shp files)?
This can be used as another option for the community to make use of the data.

Thanks,
Sam

On 3/16/10, Oliver O'Brien m...@oliverobrien.co.uk wrote:
 Great idea - I've put together just such a visualisation, have a look at:

 http://gibin.geog.ucl.ac.uk/~ollie/lonelybuses/

 At z12 it's generated on-demand so might be a bit slow in places.

 I've used 30m as the cut-off distance between the busstops and the
 centreline of any kind of highway.

 Ollie

 

 Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:06:22 -0700
 From: Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com

 If there are potentially lots of areas, then I'm wondering if there is a way
 to visualise these unmapped places. Search for bus stops where no highway=*
 within some distance of them? Maybe the distance would be the NaPTAN
 accuracy plus a few metres. This would either make a good list, or the bus
 stops could be displayed as large red dots on the no-names layer.



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Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] NaPTAN - Time for the rest?

2010-03-16 Thread Shaun McDonald
Currently openbusmap.org is a quick hack using an iframe to the original site. 
This means that if you click permalink the permalink will open in that frame. 
If you open in a new tab/window from that link, you'll get a permalink.

Shaun

On 16 Mar 2010, at 22:05, Richard Mann wrote:

 I tried to supply a lat  lon and failed dismally. I find German rail
 services fascinating, but I suspect I may be in a minority for
 openbusmap.org users. Is that easy to fix (being able to supply a
 lat/lon, maybe even generating an openbusmap.org permalink)?
 
 Cyclists may also like to ponder whether a good bus service actually
 does them quite a few favours, even if they don't use it themselves.
 Certainly has here in Oxford.
 
 Richard
 
 On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote:
 
 The cycle map and regular chatter have seen coverage blossom. Obviously bus
 stops aren't as interesting to fellow OSM nutters as cycle routes; and the
 cycle map was an early mover and got onto the front page of the main web
 site. But can't we make a bit more of an effort to push this across the GB
 community?
 
 :-) I sallied forth on this issue at WhereCampEU - topics of how to
 improve the public transit data in OSM came up a surprising number of
 times on Saturday.
 
 Step One: Register a better domain name for people who can't remember
 how to type the double-dots in http://www.öpnvkarte.de/ . Et voila,
 now we have http://openbusmap.org thanks to Shaun.
 Step Two: Have a (UK?) public transport hack-weekend. Peter Miller
 offered to sponsor this at said WhereCampEU, so that just needs
 organising.
 Step Three: Good editor support. Potlatch2 already supports things
 like NAPTAN cardinal compass directions. There's more to do on that
 front...
 
 That's a start, and IMHO doing what the cyclemap did (i.e. provide a
 compelling end-use) does as much as YAOSMIT (that's Yet Another OSM
 Inspection Tool). The tools have their place, but only for the most
 hard-core contributors. I see contributors as progressing through the
 following stages, where only a small proportion ever make it to the
 next stage:
 
 1) Not interested or aware of the subject in question
 2) Liking an end-use of the subject (e.g. opencyclemap.org, openbusmap.org)
 3) Fiddling with the data in places that's important to them
 4) Getting interested in wider QA of the data using inspection tools
 
 I think we need to support 2 and 3 to get a much larger number of
 people involved in buses etc in the UK.
 
 Cheers,
 Andy
 
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