Re: [Talk-transit] Multiple ref=* on route=train
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 5:27 PM Michael Reichert wrote: > Hi Tijmen, > > Am 20.11.19 um 23:08 schrieb Tijmen Stam: > > In the Netherlands, there are no train route numbers like this. > > Internally (and among hobbyists) we speak of a "series 2900" train which > > goes from Enkhuizen to Maastricht, but those train numbers are somewhat > > hidden to the public - they aren't on the timetable boards or digital > > board, available only on a mouseover in the train planner. > > These numbers refer to the type of vehicle (not service) what is called > "class " in Great Britain, isn't it? > I believe so, kind of similar to how Portlanders refer to "Type I, II, III, IV and V" series MAX cars, or New Yorkers refer to various "R"-series subway cars. ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Multiple ref=* on route=train
Hi Tijmen, Am 20.11.19 um 23:08 schrieb Tijmen Stam: > In the Netherlands, there are no train route numbers like this. > Internally (and among hobbyists) we speak of a "series 2900" train which > goes from Enkhuizen to Maastricht, but those train numbers are somewhat > hidden to the public - they aren't on the timetable boards or digital > board, available only on a mouseover in the train planner. These numbers refer to the type of vehicle (not service) what is called "class " in Great Britain, isn't it? Best regards Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Multiple ref=* on route=train
On 19-11-19 12:25, Tony OSM wrote: Hi Janko In my experience all railway companies give a journey a reference Headcode like that, though the format differs. In Great Britain the format used is ncnn, so for example 2P44 is a train from Manchester Victoria to Preston departing 10:05. the next service will be issued a different Headcode. The Headcode is usually used internally within the railway; some GB trains show a reference number on the doors and announcement system - this is not the headcode but the train number and is different for each service, look at https://traksy.uk/live to get unofficial service data and train locations in GB. Personally I am not convinced that the headcode or train number is useful as a reference, they change every 6 months when the timetable changes (most of Europe) - so a maintenance nightmare. I think that a service reference which every train on a route uses and is shown on the vehicle is useful - such as the service number for a tram or bus - like you have created for the service 150 Garaža Tuškanac - Gornji grad. I agree with you. In the Netherlands, there are no train route numbers like this. Internally (and among hobbyists) we speak of a "series 2900" train which goes from Enkhuizen to Maastricht, but those train numbers are somewhat hidden to the public - they aren't on the timetable boards or digital board, available only on a mouseover in the train planner. Only some regional trains are starting to get an S-number (like german S-bahns), but these numbers can overlap in different parts of the country, i.e. an S21 in both the south and north of the country. Tijmen ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Multiple ref=* on route=train
Hi Janko In my experience all railway companies give a journey a reference Headcode like that, though the format differs. In Great Britain the format used is ncnn, so for example 2P44 is a train from Manchester Victoria to Preston departing 10:05. the next service will be issued a different Headcode. The Headcode is usually used internally within the railway; some GB trains show a reference number on the doors and announcement system - this is not the headcode but the train number and is different for each service, look at https://traksy.uk/live to get unofficial service data and train locations in GB. Personally I am not convinced that the headcode or train number is useful as a reference, they change every 6 months when the timetable changes (most of Europe) - so a maintenance nightmare. I think that a service reference which every train on a route uses and is shown on the vehicle is useful - such as the service number for a tram or bus - like you have created for the service 150 Garaža Tuškanac - Gornji grad. Regards TonyS999 On 19/11/2019 09:50, Janko Mihelić wrote: Hi! The local rail transport company has a timetable where each departure has its own ref. So a train goes from A to B in the morning, and that has a ref 8005. Then it goes the same route an hour later, and that is 8007. Anyway, during the day, the same route is done 21 times, and tags on my relation look like this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7251329 Does this make sense? Do other companies have the same way of putting refs on their departures? How do you deal with it? Thanks, Janko ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
[Talk-transit] Multiple ref=* on route=train
Hi! The local rail transport company has a timetable where each departure has its own ref. So a train goes from A to B in the morning, and that has a ref 8005. Then it goes the same route an hour later, and that is 8007. Anyway, during the day, the same route is done 21 times, and tags on my relation look like this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7251329 Does this make sense? Do other companies have the same way of putting refs on their departures? How do you deal with it? Thanks, Janko ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
