Re: [Talk-us] Months-old vandalism needs to be taken care of

2010-05-04 Thread Richard Welty

On 5/4/10 7:09 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:

In southern Illinois -
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.777lon=-88.689zoom=10layers=B000FTF
- user bhj867 has added a number of new highways, most notably the
motorways at Murphysboro, Carbondale, Marion, and Harrisburg, and the
trunk from Eldorado to New Haven. But it appears that these are fake;
   

I suggest that you drop markers in http://openstreetbugs.appspot.com/
A local mapper may see them ad investigate.

and any such cleanup that I
would be forced to do if nobody helps would be incomplete and probably
mess things up further.
   
i think it's also a really bad idea to see yourself as being forced to 
do anything
to the map that might make things worse. if you're not local and can't 
do a ground

survey, then just bring it up and move on.

richard

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[Talk-us] Months-old vandalism needs to be taken care of

2010-05-04 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Richard Welty wrote:
On 5/4/10 7:09 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
 In southern Illinois -
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.777lon=-88.689zoom=10layers=B000FTF
 - user bhj867 has added a number of new highways, most notably the
 motorways at Murphysboro, Carbondale, Marion, and Harrisburg, and the
 trunk from Eldorado to New Haven. But it appears that these are fake;

I suggest that you drop markers in http://openstreetbugs.appspot.com/
A local mapper may see them ad investigate.

It doesn't need to be investigated; it's definite vandalism. The only
thing that needs investigation is which of his edits are not.

 and any such cleanup that I
 would be forced to do if nobody helps would be incomplete and probably
 mess things up further.

i think it's also a really bad idea to see yourself as being forced to
do anything
to the map that might make things worse. if you're not local and can't
do a ground
survey, then just bring it up and move on.

And if the only local is the vandal? The US is a huge place, and this
would amount to an open invitation to vandals (who don't even need to
be local; they can just choose an area likely to have no local
mappers).

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Re: [Talk-us] Months-old vandalism needs to be taken care of

2010-05-04 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/4/10 10:40 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-05-04 at 07:09 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:

 On April 28 I contacted bhj867 through OSM with a simple question:
 does the Little Egypt Expressway have another name, since I can't find
 anything about it under that name?
  
 Heh, he also gave it fake TIGER tags!  Funny stuff.

the date on the change set wouldn't happen to be April 1st, would it?

richard


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Re: [Talk-us] Months-old vandalism needs to be taken care of

2010-05-04 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/4/10 10:32 PM, Alex S. wrote:
 Richard Welty wrote:

 On 5/4/10 10:40 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
  
 Heh, he also gave it fake TIGER tags!  Funny stuff.


 the date on the change set wouldn't happen to be April 1st, would it?

  
 Apr 13
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4415970

someone didn't have their joke prepared in a timely manner.

richard


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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

2010-05-04 Thread Sarah Manley
Would it be best to collect these ideas on a wiki page? I started this:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_website_ideas (feel free to redirect
to a better name)

I do feel like it might be best for the whole community if we try to re-vamp
the current global wiki rather than create our own, but that might be a much
bigger/slower process. Maybe this is already happening ? ( I know this
exists: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Cleanup)

There are plenty of wiki hosting companies out there that provide wiki
hosting for free (mostly with ads) or for a fee (maybe covered by OSM - US
foundation?), that include tools such as WYSIWYG editor, calendars,
templates, unique domain and social tools like friending etc. Mediawiki also
has some options for the WYSIWYG:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WYSIWYG_editor Pages that shouldn't be
editable could be protected.
Might be good to investigate some of those options.
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