Re: [Talk-us] JOSM zoom limits per server solved (fixes Tiger grey overlay )

2012-09-23 Thread Toby Murray
I knew about the max zoom setting but for some reason never thought about
applying it to the TIGER tiles to fix the grey

Toby
On Sep 21, 2012 1:23 PM, Alan Millar grunthos...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Maybe everyone else knows this, but I just discovered it myself so I
 thought I would share it.

 I've been using Remap-a-tron to fix up US roads.  I use both the Bing
 imagery and the TIGER 2012 tiles overlaid, and it makes it really
 useful.

 However, I've been frustrated that I can pretty far in with the Bing
 images, but if I go too far, the Tiger (normally transparent) tiles turn
 grey and obscure the Bing images.  I've been continually turning off and
 back on the Tiger layer, which is a bit annoying after a while.

 JOSM has an easy limit in the Preferences for the maximum zoom, but it
 affects everything.  I set it to 19, and then I did not get the grey
 boxes from Tiger, but did not get the higher detailed photos from Bing
 either.

 As it turns out, JOSM does have a max-zoom per tile server feature; it
 just is not obvious or clearly documented that I could find.

 You can enter it as part of the TMS url like this:

 tms[19]:http://{switch:a,b,c}.
 tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2012_roads/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png

 The number 19, right up front, says that the maximum zoom to use for
 this layer is 19.  This solved the whole thing for me.

 I also found that if you go into Josm preferences in expert mode, and
 dig and dig and dig into the imagery providers entries, this is labeled
 as max-zoom.  Too bad it isn't easier to find.

 Anyways, hope this helps others too.

 - Alan



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Re: [Talk-us] JOSM zoom limits per server solved (fixes Tiger grey overlay )

2012-09-23 Thread Alan Millar
I also found there is a minimum zoom also. Put it in the url as min,max like

tms[16,19]:http://...

Fixes the grey tiles when I zoom back out. 

- Alan


On Sep 23, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:

 I knew about the max zoom setting but for some reason never thought about 
 applying it to the TIGER tiles to fix the grey
 
 Toby
 
 On Sep 21, 2012 1:23 PM, Alan Millar grunthos...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Maybe everyone else knows this, but I just discovered it myself so I
 thought I would share it.
 
 I've been using Remap-a-tron to fix up US roads.  I use both the Bing
 imagery and the TIGER 2012 tiles overlaid, and it makes it really
 useful.
 
 However, I've been frustrated that I can pretty far in with the Bing
 images, but if I go too far, the Tiger (normally transparent) tiles turn
 grey and obscure the Bing images.  I've been continually turning off and
 back on the Tiger layer, which is a bit annoying after a while.
 
 JOSM has an easy limit in the Preferences for the maximum zoom, but it
 affects everything.  I set it to 19, and then I did not get the grey
 boxes from Tiger, but did not get the higher detailed photos from Bing
 either.
 
 As it turns out, JOSM does have a max-zoom per tile server feature; it
 just is not obvious or clearly documented that I could find.
 
 You can enter it as part of the TMS url like this:
 
 tms[19]:http://{switch:a,b,c}.tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2012_roads/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
 
 The number 19, right up front, says that the maximum zoom to use for
 this layer is 19.  This solved the whole thing for me.
 
 I also found that if you go into Josm preferences in expert mode, and
 dig and dig and dig into the imagery providers entries, this is labeled
 as max-zoom.  Too bad it isn't easier to find.
 
 Anyways, hope this helps others too.
 
 - Alan
 
 
 
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Re: [Talk-us] JOSM zoom limits per server solved (fixes Tiger grey overlay )

2012-09-23 Thread Ian Dees
The root cause if you will, is that TileStache doesn't support 404ing
instead of grey tiles when a request falls out of the specified bounds. If
someone wants to code that up and submit a pull request, I would much
rather use that.

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Alan Millar grunthos...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I also found there is a minimum zoom also. Put it in the url as min,max
 like

 tms[16,19]:http://...

 Fixes the grey tiles when I zoom back out.

 - Alan


 On Sep 23, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:

 I knew about the max zoom setting but for some reason never thought about
 applying it to the TIGER tiles to fix the grey

 Toby
 On Sep 21, 2012 1:23 PM, Alan Millar grunthos...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Maybe everyone else knows this, but I just discovered it myself so I
 thought I would share it.

 I've been using Remap-a-tron to fix up US roads.  I use both the Bing
 imagery and the TIGER 2012 tiles overlaid, and it makes it really
 useful.

 However, I've been frustrated that I can pretty far in with the Bing
 images, but if I go too far, the Tiger (normally transparent) tiles turn
 grey and obscure the Bing images.  I've been continually turning off and
 back on the Tiger layer, which is a bit annoying after a while.

 JOSM has an easy limit in the Preferences for the maximum zoom, but it
 affects everything.  I set it to 19, and then I did not get the grey
 boxes from Tiger, but did not get the higher detailed photos from Bing
 either.

 As it turns out, JOSM does have a max-zoom per tile server feature; it
 just is not obvious or clearly documented that I could find.

 You can enter it as part of the TMS url like this:

 tms[19]:http://{switch:a,b,c}.
 tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2012_roads/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.pnghttp://tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2012_roads/%7Bzoom%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.png

 The number 19, right up front, says that the maximum zoom to use for
 this layer is 19.  This solved the whole thing for me.

 I also found that if you go into Josm preferences in expert mode, and
 dig and dig and dig into the imagery providers entries, this is labeled
 as max-zoom.  Too bad it isn't easier to find.

 Anyways, hope this helps others too.

 - Alan



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Re: [Talk-us] Schizophrenic highway

2012-09-23 Thread Charlotte Wolter


It intersects with a major road atonly one end. 
After the discussion, I'm sticking with my 
original primary road code. Maybe some day they 
will finish it, but right now it's most just a 
two-lane highway. We'll see if the next iteration 
of Bing photos shows that they are working on it 
again.  At this point, they don't seem to be 
doing anything to finish the work that was started.


Charlotte


At 05:47 PM 9/14/2012, you wrote:


On Sep 14, 2012 7:06 PM, Charlotte Wolter 
mailto:techl...@techlady.comtechl...@techlady.com wrote:
 Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I'm working on US 50 near 
Trenton, Ill. Here's the location: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=38.61248lon=-89.68529zoom=16http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=38.61248lon=-89.68529zoom=16
 Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â It looks like, at one point 
there were plans to turn this into a motorway. 
In two spots in a 25-mile stretch, 
intersections have been turned into cloverleafs 
and the highway divided. In other locations, 
roads that used to intersect US 50 have been 
turned into overpasses. There are even a couple 
of bridges for a second lane but no evidence of 
any construction work actually to build that 
lane. The vast majority of the highway is still two-lane blacktop.
 Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â So how does one tag this, as 
a primary road that just has a couple of cloverleafs?


Probably.  Without looking at aerial 
photography, I'd say it sounds like a super-2, 
or at least a two-lane expressway; the tags 
expressway=yes an/or motorroad=yes might be 
applicable.  Also, if the ends of this improved 
section are near other major roads, then highway=trunk might make sense.


Sorry for the uncertain reply but it's not 
convenient to closely inspect these things on my phone.


Charlotte Wolter
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Re: [Talk-us] JOSM zoom limits per server solved (fixes Tiger grey overlay )

2012-09-23 Thread Dale Puch
Not to get into the coding as I have no idea how it is handled, but better
to not offer a 404 page, but to keep the min/max zoom tile as the reply in
this case.
Ie if asking for zoom 20+ return with zoom 19 instead.  More of a redirect
instead of 404 if zoom is out of bounds.

One possibility to slightly abuse the zoom limits...  tms[19,19]:http://...
probably fine for lots of stuff as you would probably end up at that level
anyhow.
Could we get just 2 zoom levels?  say 16 and 19?

Dale

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 The root cause if you will, is that TileStache doesn't support 404ing
 instead of grey tiles when a request falls out of the specified bounds. If
 someone wants to code that up and submit a pull request, I would much
 rather use that.


 On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Alan Millar grunthos...@yahoo.comwrote:

 I also found there is a minimum zoom also. Put it in the url as min,max
 like

 tms[16,19]:http://...

 Fixes the grey tiles when I zoom back out.

 - Alan


 On Sep 23, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote:

 I knew about the max zoom setting but for some reason never thought about
 applying it to the TIGER tiles to fix the grey

 Toby
 On Sep 21, 2012 1:23 PM, Alan Millar grunthos...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Maybe everyone else knows this, but I just discovered it myself so I
 thought I would share it.

 I've been using Remap-a-tron to fix up US roads.  I use both the Bing
 imagery and the TIGER 2012 tiles overlaid, and it makes it really
 useful.

 However, I've been frustrated that I can pretty far in with the Bing
 images, but if I go too far, the Tiger (normally transparent) tiles turn
 grey and obscure the Bing images.  I've been continually turning off and
 back on the Tiger layer, which is a bit annoying after a while.

 JOSM has an easy limit in the Preferences for the maximum zoom, but it
 affects everything.  I set it to 19, and then I did not get the grey
 boxes from Tiger, but did not get the higher detailed photos from Bing
 either.

 As it turns out, JOSM does have a max-zoom per tile server feature; it
 just is not obvious or clearly documented that I could find.

 You can enter it as part of the TMS url like this:

 tms[19]:http://{switch:a,b,c}.
 tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2012_roads/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.pnghttp://tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2012_roads/%7Bzoom%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.png

 The number 19, right up front, says that the maximum zoom to use for
 this layer is 19.  This solved the whole thing for me.

 I also found that if you go into Josm preferences in expert mode, and
 dig and dig and dig into the imagery providers entries, this is labeled
 as max-zoom.  Too bad it isn't easier to find.

 Anyways, hope this helps others too.

 - Alan



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