Re: [Talk-us] Future Interstate Relations
* James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com [2013-06-26 22:34 -0400]: I thought the modifier would be the type of Business route? Remember, we do have Business Spurs and Business Loops for Interstate highways. Sometimes both types in the same city. Every Business Interstate is signed as either a spur or loop, so I would consider the full modifier to be either Business Spur or Business Loop. For lack of a better approach, I set up the shield rendering to process them with network values of US:I:Business:Spur and US:I:Business:Loop. I guess the value of the modifier tag could be either Business:Spur or Business Spur. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- $a='X'; print map \$a='$a'; $_, q($_), q(print map \$a='$a';$_, q($_)) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Future Interstate Relations
* Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org [2013-06-26 23:25 -0500]: Looks like the spur extends the loop, I'm not sure I'd differentiate them in modifier, but might in the description. They're signed differently, so I think that makes them distinct enough to be treated differently. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- Photons have neither morality nor visas. -- David Farber --- -- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.gov wrote: I’m tagging some camp sites as “boat=yes” to imply water access only, but I don’t think this is right. Is there a water-only access tag? What information are you trying to record? access= generally informs of a legal restriction. In your case, is access by foot prohibited, or simply unwise / unlikely / less convenient? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag?
By foot, impossible and serious injury if attempted. -Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 2:08 PM To: Thomas Colson Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [Talk-us] access restriction, water only: How to tag? On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Thomas Colson thomas_col...@nps.gov wrote: I'm tagging some camp sites as boat=yes to imply water access only, but I don't think this is right. Is there a water-only access tag? What information are you trying to record? access= generally informs of a legal restriction. In your case, is access by foot prohibited, or simply unwise / unlikely / less convenient? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Call for locations: Summer editathon July 20-21!
Hello everyone - It's that time of the season again. The OpenStreetMap US chapter calls a summer editathon on July 20, 21. http://openstreetmap.us/2013/06/july-summer-editathon/ The call for locations is now open. Add your city by **July 12th**. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_Summer_Editathon_2013 Last #editathon was fun, they are an awesome excuse to get your local OpenStreetMap friends into one place and pull in new folks. I hope many local organizers will join us again this time around. Cheers - Alex -- Alex Barth Secretary OpenStreetMap United States Inc. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] TorhamZed imports
It seems we have a mass import of truck stops going on by user TorhamZed. I have some concerns about this, since there doesn't seem to be any documentation for this import, they appear to be tagged as caravan sites, and sources cited on the ones I've noticed appear to be from the operator's website. I'm concerned that these edits don't meet our license standards and are tagged inappropriately (since in at least a couple cases I'm personally aware of, the truck stop in question doesn't have facilities you would expect at, say, the park I live in or a KOA or similar facility). I've just reached out to the user in private message, but wanted to make the list aware of this so folks can keep an eye out in their area. Included chains seem to be Flying J, Love's (possibly misspelled as Loves'), and Travel Centers of America. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TorhamZed imports
At first it looked like great photo mapping... fitting a pattern of a long distance team driving trucker doing 4-5 truck stops a day... But given buildings plopped onto roads: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16662943 And the comment: 16598240 June 18, 2013 03:59 Loves' # 458 - Strafford - Can be seen from google maps It looks more like trolling corporate websites then mapping from an armchair. - Note: TorhamZed's activity would also bypass almost any automated limit system for new members. This is not 1 features in one day, this is 4-5 features a day for months. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TorhamZed imports
On 6/27/2013 8:16 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: But given buildings plopped onto roads: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16662943 I've been guilty of 'plopping buildings onto roads' myself, where the driveway goes under a carport style roof. And being too lazy to split the road at the roof and tag it with covered=yes. And the comment: 16598240 June 18, 2013 03:59 Loves' # 458 - Strafford - Can be seen from google maps Unless it's not on Bing aerial, it might be the old everything, including Bing imagery is Google problem. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Tagging a super-two highway (trunk or motorway?)
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: That would mean most freeways including interstates in the west, with the exception of limited sections in the bay area, southwestern California, central Portland and urban Seattle wouldn't be motorways, as restricting pedestrians and bicycles is unusual in 34 states. To clarify, I meant that most states have some practice that involves specially marking freeways; for example, California uses the Freeway Entrance sign, as I believe is also the case in Nevada, Washington, and a few other states, while in many other states the restrictions are spelled out on a sign at the beginning of controlled access and on-ramps. Of course, there are states that don't post these restriction signs (like Mississippi), and there are states that allow certain categories of vehicle on some or all freeways that are forbidden on other states' freeways. But as a guide for figuring out if a stretch of road is a freeway (and thus in OSM tagging a highway=motorway) knowing field signing practices for freeways is a helpful indicator, along with the legal designation of the route (if the state makes a legal distinction between partial and full control of access, regardless of the terminology). And this isn't tagging for the renderer. It's tagging based on the western hemisphere translation of the concept of a motorway, which includes the possibility of undivided routes with full access control. Tagging for the renderer would be tagging undivided freeways as trunks because we want them to be visually distinct from divided freeways tagged as motorways in Mapnik's default style. TLDR version: if there are signs at each end saying the road is a freeway, and we have it tagged as a primary rather than a motorway (the super two freeway section of US 101 in Washington State is apparently an example, based on what He Who Shall Not Be Named says in another forum), that's a problem. We can haggle over more ambiguous cases like (presumably) MD 60 - I've never driven it and haven't done any research with the state authorities, so I have no particular expertise there. Chris ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
