Re: [Talk-us] Prima Facie Speed Limits
2014-09-16 7:27 GMT+02:00 Greg Morgan dr.kludge...@gmail.com: Woot! Woot! If you are adding a speed limit to a node where a sign is located and if you add traffic_sign=maxspeed along with your maxspeed=25 mph, then JOSM will show you a cute little sign verses a blue dot. http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/147417922 I'm doing this and also adding traffic_sign=maxspeed to make clear that it is a sign position. There is also an additional style for josm to display the actual sign with the correct number (currently just for kph limits), feel free to extend this for mph (eventually with the typical sign you have over there): http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Styles http://josm.openstreetmap.de/josmfile?page=Styles/MaxspeedIconszip=1 (you don't have to download it here to use it, you can activate this from inside josm via preferences, styles) cheers, Martin PS: one remark to California vehicle code 22352 This apparently stands for all kind of prima facie limits in California, IMHO you could also use something more specific like US:CA:school where US:CA would be a short form for California vehicle code 22352 and school one of the cases described in this code (context). Would also be nice to document these here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Prima Facie Speed Limits
On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:44 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: PS: one remark to California vehicle code 22352 This apparently stands for all kind of prima facie limits in California, IMHO you could also use something more specific like US:CA:school where US:CA would be a short form for California vehicle code 22352 and school one of the cases described in this code (context). Would also be nice to document these here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed On Sep 13, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Is it maxspeed:source or source:maxspeed? Also, I'd rather see an explanation than a jumbled pseudokey, aka default speed limit for unposted streets in California On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Tod Fitch tod at fitchdesign.com wrote: The jumbled pseudokey value us:ca:residential was inspired by http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed used elsewhere in the world (e.g. source:maxspeed=DE:urban). But I would be happy with default speed limit for unposted streets in California, or a shorter string like California vehicle code 22352. Which will it be? The wiki page for source:maxspeed http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed#Howto_tag says: Howto tag See also: Speed limits • sign (where the speed limit is defined by a numeric sign.) • markings (where the speed limit is defined by painted road markings.) • country_code:context (where the speed limit is defined by a particular context, for example urban/rural/motorway/etc.) While neither Martin's nor Paul's suggestion exactly match the wiki, Martin's is closer. I don't have strong opinions but would like agreement between more than one other person and myself. :) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] TIGER 2014 update
Just out of curiosity, I did a dumb road name comparison between TIGER 2013 and TIGER 2014 for the surrounding dozen counties. I was surprised to find that my local county had a bunch of new roads added. So the TIGER data can get a major update for a reason other than the census workers traversing every street and finding a new street. None of the other counties had new roads added though. Since the new roads were flagged, I was able to bring them into OSM. (All manually checked for connectivity, smoothing, etc). ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Prima Facie Speed Limits
I think in previous situations where this has come up on this list and the IRC networks was that explicit tagging plus explanatory note is better than what the Germans are doing for zonal speeds. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote: On Sep 16, 2014, at 12:44 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: PS: one remark to California vehicle code 22352 This apparently stands for all kind of prima facie limits in California, IMHO you could also use something more specific like US:CA:school where US:CA would be a short form for California vehicle code 22352 and school one of the cases described in this code (context). Would also be nice to document these here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed On Sep 13, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: Is it maxspeed:source or source:maxspeed? Also, I'd rather see an explanation than a jumbled pseudokey, aka default speed limit for unposted streets in California On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Tod Fitch tod at fitchdesign.com wrote: The jumbled pseudokey value us:ca:residential was inspired by http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed used elsewhere in the world (e.g. source:maxspeed=DE:urban). But I would be happy with default speed limit for unposted streets in California, or a shorter string like California vehicle code 22352. Which will it be? The wiki page for source:maxspeed http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:source:maxspeed#Howto_tag says: Howto tag See also: Speed limits • sign (where the speed limit is defined by a numeric sign.) • markings (where the speed limit is defined by painted road markings.) • country_code:context (where the speed limit is defined by a particular context, for example urban/rural/motorway/etc.) While neither Martin's nor Paul's suggestion exactly match the wiki, Martin's is closer. I don't have strong opinions but would like agreement between more than one other person and myself. :) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2014 update
On 9/16/14 3:13 PM, Mike N wrote: Just out of curiosity, I did a dumb road name comparison between TIGER 2013 and TIGER 2014 for the surrounding dozen counties. I was surprised to find that my local county had a bunch of new roads added. So the TIGER data can get a major update for a reason other than the census workers traversing every street and finding a new street. None of the other counties had new roads added though. Since the new roads were flagged, I was able to bring them into OSM. (All manually checked for connectivity, smoothing, etc). the Census Bureau has been increasingly working with local GIS departments, the result being that there has been a lot of improvement in many regards. it's always worthwhile to compare new TIGER with older data; it's kind of impressive how rapidly new developments pop up. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Geography Awareness Week #mapathon Nov 15 and 16
For this fall's #mapathon we're joining National Geographic's Geography Awareness Week. Add your city on the map and host a #mapathon in your community + help spread the word: http://openstreetmap.us/2014/09/fall-mapathon/ Cheers! -- Alex Barth Secretary OpenStreetMap United States Inc. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2014 update
Mike wrote Since the new roads were flagged, I was able to bring them into OSM. (All manually checked for connectivity, smoothing, etc). Is ther a way to use TIGER 2014 in JOSM yet. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2014 update
On 9/16/14 11:10 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: Mike wrote Since the new roads were flagged, I was able to bring them into OSM. (All manually checked for connectivity, smoothing, etc). Is ther a way to use TIGER 2014 in JOSM yet. i presume that you're asking for a layer similar to the 2012 and 2013 layers. i'm not sure those are out, but depending on how much work you're willing to do. there's always a way to use a shapefile in JOSM - the question is how much work are you willing to do to use it. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2014 update
Richard Welty wrote the question is how much work are you willing to do to use it. The answer is simple - verry little. I've been doing quite a lot of armchair mapping recently. 1) Pushing crazy TIGER roads around in residential and rural areas. 2) Adding missing roads in Las Vegas (and adding new ones from actual surevy last month). 3) Unabbreviating roads in Las Vegas and in the Denver Area. 4) Readding roads and road names (deleted during the redaction) in Victoria Australia, from the VICMap tms layer 5) Doing manyy of the tasks from the maproulette crossing ways challenge. This means that I spend all of my Osm time on mapping using tools created by others (or from driving around my state) but have no time or inclination to develop these tools. There are about 150 roads in Las Vegas that do not have suffixes and I'm hoping that the 2014 data will addreess this problem. Also there were a lot of new gated communities in Las Vegas that are as yet unnamed in TIGER 2013, and I was not able to drive into these. I'm hoping that some (maybe even most) of these will appear in the new 2014 Tiger data. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
