Re: [Talk-us] Ghost Towns

2014-11-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-11-10 6:07 GMT+01:00 Hans De Kryger hans.dekryge...@gmail.com:

 Anyone know if we map ghost towns in osm? Couldn't find anything, not even
 a tag.



I think there should also be a place tag, e.g. place=locality (for a
generic uninhabited place), but that is really generic so something more
specific (AFAIK yet to introduce) would make sense as well.


cheers,
Martin
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Re: [Talk-us] OSMF AGM election results

2014-11-10 Thread Alex Barth
Alan - STV hasn't come up in the more recent past for osm us. Certainly
open to using it in 2015 election.

Alex (osm us board member)

On Sunday, November 9, 2014, Alan McConchie alan.mcconc...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Richard, thanks for the great work you and the other election monitors did
 to make this election run so smoothly. And thanks particularly for your
 series of blog posts explaining how STV (the Single Transferable Vote)
 works.

 I’ve been a supporter of election reform for a long time (something
 acutely needed in the US, Canada, and the UK) and STV is by far the best
 and most practical system I’m aware of. It was a pleasure to get to use it
 in this OSMF election.

 I’m fascinated by the chart you posted [1] that shows how the votes
 transferred through each round of voting. It’s interesting to compare the
 candidates’ manifestos and look for “coalitions of voters who transferred
 their votes between candidates with similar platforms. One of the great
 things about STV is that similar candidates don’t have to worry about
 stealing votes from one another. STV also discourages negative campaigns,
 because candidates want to gain their competitors’ 2nd and 3rd votes (and
 so on). Therefore, candidates are less likely to make personal attacks
 against their competitors. Given all the other chaos and strife that was
 going on with the OSMF leading up to the election, and also because STV is
 a new addition to OSMF’s electoral process, it’s too hard to say if STV had
 any meaningful positive impact on the tone of this election. Maybe we can
 say more in future years.

 I would love it if we adopted STV for the OSM US elections. Has there been
 any discussion about that in the past?

 [1] http://weait.com/sites/default/files/board-2014.png

 Alan

 On Nov 9, 2014, at 6:42 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rich...@weait.com'); wrote:

 The OpenStreetMap Foundation held the 2014 AGM yesterday including
 votes on several matters including the election to the board.

 The results are summarized on the wiki. Official results will be on
 the Foundation web site in future.

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM14

 I've added some background on STV (voting method) because it is the
 first time I have been involved in it.  Learn along with me at my site
 http://weait.com  in several recent articles and several more on the
 way.



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[Talk-us] User randomly adding speed limits across the US

2014-11-10 Thread James Mast
I'm just curious, but can anybody verify the speed limits that user msheerin17 
[1] has been randomly adding across the US?  He seems to fond of adding a lot 
of 'maxspeed=55 mph' tags to ways in completely different areas (he does add 
other speed limits, but well over 60% have been 55 mph).

I have tried to contact this user about all the speed limits he's been adding 
and did get a response back from him only once (back on October 15th).  In that 
response, he claimed he was getting the speed limits from our customers, but 
at no time did he mention what company he was working for or what app was 
generating the input from people of the 'correct speed limits'.  He even told 
me to let him know if I had any more questions, but he's never responded to any 
other messages that I sent him after that asking about that info.

I do know one changeset [2] was at least was partially correct (was for a small 
segment of PA-28 and I could verify that since I live near it), however, a 
small part he tagged @ 55 mph is still officially 45 mph (the NB bridge over 
PA-8 is posted @ 45 mph still, not 55 mph).  However, there are other 
changesets out there that he did where there is no way possible the speed limit 
he added could be correct. [3]

So, if anybody lives near any of his changesets were he's added the maxspeed 
tag and can verify if they are either correct or incorrect, I'd appreciate it.  
If he's been adding a lot of incorrect speed limits, we need to nip this in the 
behind fast before it gets too out of hand.  If most of them are incorrect 
(being 15+ over the actual posted limit or more in some places), it could 
seriously cause problems with the routers that use OSM data, especially in 
areas where we don't have any active mappers to verify said speed limits.  
Heck, it could even lead to bad press if somebody gets a speeding ticket and 
they try to blame OSM for it because of the incorrect speed limit in the 
database.

-James

[1] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/msheerin17/history
[2] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/24355862
[3] - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26366111

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Re: [Talk-us] User randomly adding speed limits across the US

2014-11-10 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Tue, 2014-11-11 at 00:51 -0500, James Mast wrote:
 Heck, it could even lead to bad press if somebody gets a speeding
 ticket and they try to blame OSM for it because of the incorrect speed
 limit in the database.

No decent motorist has any excuse for trusting OSM data over the numbers
on the speed limit signs.


-- 
Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com


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Re: [Talk-us] User randomly adding speed limits across the US

2014-11-10 Thread Hans De Kryger
Did find this, if this helps at all. Max speed limit for roads in
Pennsylvania.

I highly doubt the speed limit for the road in link 3 also. It's a
residential road.

1.) http://www.speed-limits.com/pennsylvania.htm

*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com
wrote:

 On Tue, 2014-11-11 at 00:51 -0500, James Mast wrote:
  Heck, it could even lead to bad press if somebody gets a speeding
  ticket and they try to blame OSM for it because of the incorrect speed
  limit in the database.

 No decent motorist has any excuse for trusting OSM data over the numbers
 on the speed limit signs.


 --
 Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com


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