[Talk-us] Battlegrid back up
Finally I had some time to fix the Battlegrid. (If you hadn't noticed, it has been broken for a while.) A diary entry with (slightly) more info and a link to the battlegrid (in case you didn't know it was battlegrid.us) -- http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/28460 Happy mapping, -- Martijn van Exel skype: mvexel ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Please review: new proposed bylaws for OSM US, open for comments until Jan 20th
Alex, In the by-laws document, paragraph 5.2, it specifies that the Chapter should have members mailing addresses, not just email addresses. I don't recall ever giving my address when I first joined. Most likely I've since forgotten but is the Chapter collecting that information? Thanks, Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Please review: new proposed bylaws for OSM US, open for comments until Jan 20th
Clifford, we do collect that information from our members. The current form doesn't have it marked as required but I'll probably change that after you pointed this out. On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: Alex, In the by-laws document, paragraph 5.2, it specifies that the Chapter should have members mailing addresses, not just email addresses. I don't recall ever giving my address when I first joined. Most likely I've since forgotten but is the Chapter collecting that information? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] GNIS POI populations
Or Overpass + Level0 :-) regards m. On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:50 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Minh Nguyen wrote: I think we should consider a mechanical edit to update these tags While you're thinking about GNIS mechanical edits, could I suggest one for GNIS-sourced POIs with (historical) in the name? There are several gazillion amenity=post_office, name=Fred Creek Post Office (historical) in the database. Clearly these aren't actually post offices any more. Ideally I guess they should be disused:amenity=post_office, or historic:amenity, or something. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site%3Aopenstreetmap.org+gnis+historicalgws_rd=ssl I'd do it myself but this is about the one area where you _do_ need JOSM rather than P2. ;) cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/GNIS-POI-populations-tp5829895p5829925.html Sent from the USA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Please review: new proposed bylaws for OSM US, open for comments until Jan 20th
To all OpenStreetMap US members: Our new proposed bylaws are open for comments until **January 20th 3PM Eastern**. As part of the process of bringing our organization in line with IRS requirements for a 501 c 3 tax deductible status we are applying for our legal counsel has recommend we update our bylaws to comply with District of Columbia law - the District of Columbia being the seat of OpenStreetMap US. Considering your feedback we will bring the new bylaws to a vote by the OpenStreetMap US membership after January 20th. To pass the new bylaws, we will need a majority of 2/3 of 50 % of the membership (currently there are 229 members). Per vote of January 14th, the OpenStreetMap US board unanimously recommends to adopt the new proposed bylaws as available here: - PDF http://cl.ly/3X2T1w0U0v0i - Word http://cl.ly/2a051Q1K0k1M Compare with the current bylaws: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Bylaws While the new bylaws are rewritten from ground up following proven templates for 501 c 3 organizations, there are actually few effective changes: Should all members be deceased or dissolved or should all members have resigned, additional members may be nominated by the Board and elected at any annual or special meeting of the Board. 4.1 (c) - ensures that non of the board members personally benefits of OSM US earnings 4.1 (d) - Explicitly states the board can appoint advisors (isn't explicitly denied in current Bylaws) 4.2 - board can be 3-9 directors (now 4-9), must be uneven number (now: no regulation) 4.3 - All directors shall be members of the Corporation 4.5 - Removal. Any director may be removed with or without cause at any time during his or her term at any regular, special or annual meeting of the members, by a two-thirds (2/3) majority vote of a minimum of fifty percent (50%) of all member (this used to be ) 4.8 - Ability to form committees including executive committees - this is fine as it's in-line with the laws of DC and not something that the previous Bylaws prohibited 4.9 - this is new and will help us with gaining 501 c3 status: Directors cannot be paid for their services to OSM US but may be reimbursed for expenses 5.6 - Quorum. At meetings, a majority of the directors then in office or a majority of the current members shall be necessary to constitute a quorum for the transaction of business. - this is better than todays rule which says a quorum is determined at the beginning of a meeting (VII/3) 12.1 - Dissolution - this is an important change for us to be able to attain 501c3 status: Current bylaws say upon dissolution, OSM US assets go to OSMF, new bylaws say shall be disposed of in accordance with the laws of the District of Columbia, Section 501(c)(3) of the Code - which de facto ensures that OSM US assets remain in a 501 (c) (3) non profit. Alex PS: - To become a member, sign up here: http://openstreetmap.us/join/ - To inquire about your membership status, send us an email at members...@opensteretmap.us -- Alex Barth Vice President OpenStreetMap United States Inc. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] GNIS POI populations
On 1/13/2015 5:34 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: It looks like most of the place=city/town/village/hamlet POIs from GNIS are tagged with 2000 Census populations in the population tag. These population tags allow renderers to label places with font sizes corresponding to population, which is a pretty common use case. I had done a PR which would have added population sorting for place names, but as a style maintainer I'm interested in what styles use population for sizes. I think we should consider a mechanical edit to update these tags to the 2010 Census figures en masse. I've been updating individual places as I edit them for other reasons, but this tag is most useful when its vintage is consistent across the board. Although I somewhat like the idea of updating the population tags, I think we should give higher priority to fixing their tagging. When I did some cleanup of Washington place=city POIs I found that I ended up retagging most, deleting many, and only a few were place=city. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Place classifications
On 2015-01-13 05:28, Minh Nguyen wrote: On 2015-01-12 11:23, Elliott Plack wrote: Great start on this Minh, I tried to tackle this in the Baltimore Washington region last year. After reading the wiki, I decided on the following classifications: * hamlet: census population was less than 200 * village: census pop. between 200 and 1 * town: census pop. between 10001 and 5 * city: major hub urban centers above 5 I like the idea of lowering the bar for place=city somewhat, to rope in smaller cities that have their own suburbs as part of a micropolitan area. However, if we just go by population, the map ends still ends up rather sparse, making OSM look undermapped. Most rural counties have a center of commercial activity, often the county seat (or a former county seat). Even though its population may not reach 10,000, it's significant enough to be labeled at the same zoom levels as those that do. For example, I made an exception for Hillsboro, OH. [1] Nowhere else in the county comes close to its population of 6,605. As a county seat, it has its own daily newspaper, radio station, fairgrounds, general aviation airport, high school, and two U.S. highways. I cite attributes like these in the changeset comment or note tag whenever making an exception. [1] http://osm.org/relation/183049 There are some CDPs though that would be a city by population alone, but really don't have a true city feel, and cartographically would look bad as being a city on a map. The tricky one is Glen Burnie, sprawl area south of Baltimore with no urban core, yet the pop is over 65k. It is marked as a city now, but really should be town I think. I like your one city per metropolis idea. In suburban areas, even a city in the official sense may lack a downtown core. But yes, if you'd consider Glen Burnie to be subordinate to Baltimore, place=city is probably too prominent. You wouldn't consider any town to be a suburb of Glen Burnie. The unincorporated places I referred to the other day are different than CDPs. They came from the GNIS database and likely originated as century-ago post offices, cemeteries, or railroad stops. Wikipedia and the Census Bureau are mum on most of these places, but it's entirely possible that they're marked on the ground with signs. I haven't heard back from the mapper who made them into towns, but I'd like to revert their changes soon. Fortunately it was just a misunderstanding. They explained that place=hamlet appeared wrong, since no one uses the word hamlet in this part of the country. They're using mostly Potlatch 2 and JOSM. P2's basic mode does have human-friendly preset names, but none of the popular editors attempts to bridge this particular Britishism/New-Yorkism. Though some of these POIs look so obscure they might not even qualify for place=isolated_dwelling... -- m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] GNIS POI populations
On 2015-01-14 01:29, Paul Norman wrote: On 1/13/2015 5:34 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: It looks like most of the place=city/town/village/hamlet POIs from GNIS are tagged with 2000 Census populations in the population tag. These population tags allow renderers to label places with font sizes corresponding to population, which is a pretty common use case. I had done a PR which would have added population sorting for place names, but as a style maintainer I'm interested in what styles use population for sizes. Here are a couple that use it: https://github.com/Citytracking/Terrain as seen at: http://maps.stamen.com/terrain/ https://github.com/migurski/OSM-Solar I do see quite a few instances of population-based sorting on GitHub: https://github.com/search?q=planet_osm_point+populationtype=Code But the difference between 2006 and 2010 populations is unlikely to be large enough to matter much for this use case. Still, weighting city labels by population is a common enough practice dating back to the days of paper maps. Someone trying to emulate it with OSM data would find the `population` tag much more convenient than conflating with an external source, since precision would be less important than accuracy. I think we should consider a mechanical edit to update these tags to the 2010 Census figures en masse. I've been updating individual places as I edit them for other reasons, but this tag is most useful when its vintage is consistent across the board. Although I somewhat like the idea of updating the population tags, I think we should give higher priority to fixing their tagging. When I did some cleanup of Washington place=city POIs I found that I ended up retagging most, deleting many, and only a few were place=city. In Ohio and surrounding states, I've seen lots of incorrect `place=city` on boundary relations, but all the `place=city` POIs were correct. I think the `place` tags on those relations were set to whatever the TIGER classification happened to be. On the other hand, there are plenty of `place=hamlet`s on POIs that should either be deleted or turned into named landuse areas (mostly trailer parks). -- m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
