Re: [Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-02-10 Thread Greg Morgan
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Greg Morgan  wrote:

>> How accurate was the pin?  Good enough to find the station? Are there more
>> nearby?
>
> The photos are up
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Dero_Bike_Repair.

Bryce here is a better shot of all the tools
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Dero_tool_view.png. The
import page updated automatically.

Thanks for sharing your mapping project.

Regards,
Greg

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[Talk-us] Last minute mappy hour announcement

2015-02-10 Thread Martijn van Exel
Sorry folks, this crept up on me (again!) But I did create the Mappy Hour
event for tonight on Google+:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/cnhm9h5pdsmo77jqkqcpv8d37ls

I won't be able to make it myself tonight, and I expect to make a comeback
in 2 weeks with hopefully a special theme or even a guest..!

Let me know if you have suggestions or requests for the latter.

Martijn
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Re: [Talk-us] For comment: import of amenity=bicycle_repair_stations

2015-02-10 Thread Greg Morgan
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 6:00 AM, Bryce Nesbitt  wrote:
> Dero does not happen to have a ref or primary key for their data.  Some
> other vendor or site may have an actual value here Much as emergency
> phones or some institutional assets.

I finally get what you are doing with the ref.  I believe you are
adding the ref from your data based on the dropbox file that you
provided.

>
> How accurate was the pin?  Good enough to find the station? Are there more
> nearby?

The photos are up
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Dero_Bike_Repair. The
accuracy is good enough to find the station. I did not try to GPS the
station because of the building reflections.  I did not look at the
picture before adding the node. Perhaps the node could move to the
west.  ASU installed the station by a walkway into the parking garage.
The station is near bike racks.  The irony is that there are two gas
station grade air hoses on the other side of the wall.  ;-)

>
> The charging tag needs work: what style of charger? Is the charging free? I
> left that in from others work but feel it should be a separate node.

As far as all the tagging questions, I added the tags based on reading
the wiki and my initial confusion over the import process.  It is all
open source. Do what you will with the node and wiki page.
Classically: "If broken, then you get to keep both pieces."

Regards,
Greg

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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's

2015-02-10 Thread Greg Morgan
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Peter Dobratz  wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Greg Morgan  wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 4:23 AM, Mike N  wrote:
>
> ...
>>
>> > The addr:housenumber doesn't render anyway if the
>> > building has also been tagged as another POI that renders.
>>
>>
>> I've solved this problem by putting the address on the building.  If
>> the building also has a POI tag such as amenity=fuel, I move this tag
>> to a new POI node.  I place the POI node so that both the
>> addr:housenumber render along with the POI information.  Addresses and
>> buildings don't change as much as how  busiensses can come and go.
>
>
> This seems to be "tagging for the renderer" which is not a good idea.  If
> the only thing occupying the building is a single POI, then put the POI tags
> on the closed Way for the building outline.  By adding a new object (Node)
> for the POI, you are also going against the "One feature, one OSM element"
> idea.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice

Tagging for rendering would be adding tags to make it render.  In my
book, all I am doing in this case is unstacking duplicate nodes as if
the Keepright map pointed these out.  Perhaps I'll read the last two
wiki pages.  What you quote is new to me.  The wiki pages also say
that I should fill in our dry river beds with some sort of water tag
so we paint pretty blue tiles like Google and other maps do.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/33.4185/-112.0503   The problem
with that idea is that the blue tiles would obscure the recreational
opportunities that the canals and river beds afford my area. Had my
local knowledge been available during World War II, then the German
UBoat prisoners might have had a different plan than floating down the
Salt River to the Pacific Ocean. http://brazilbrazil.com/powcamp.html
;-)

> There are renderers in existence that will display both the house number and 
> the name of a restaurant with food icon.

This is the only render system that I know
http://www.openstreetmap.org/. It does not do what you say.

Regards,
Greg

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