Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Your opinion about SOTM US

2015-03-10 Thread Russ Nelson
Alex Barth writes:
  What do you think are the big topics and challenges for OpenStreetMap as
  we're about to go into the second decade? What does this mean for State of
  the Map?

For OSM in the US? Finding and fixing the badly-digitized TIGER
data. I've got it mostly under control in NY, but I still find bits
and pieces of it left. And when I go looking in neighboring states, I
shudder.

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Re: [Talk-us] Mappy hour tomorrow!

2015-03-10 Thread Martijn van Exel
Thanks Paul. I'll let you know.
And thank you Richard, I agree, they are fun!
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:29 AM Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:

 I'm pretty adept at using Google+; if need be I can create the events in
 the future, I just need to know when.

 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net
 wrote:

  On 3/8/15 11:49 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:

 Sorry you can't make it Jack.

  The direct hangout link is here - I think:
 https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/event/cpiqg6sldpjconoipvhmd3skhcc
 Sorry, Google+ makes it really hard to just share a link to an event. I
 still don't quite understand how it works.

 that link is telling me i need an invitation; i have requested one and
 am waiting for it.

 i agree, the G+ interface for hangouts is remarkably confusing.

 richard

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Re: [Talk-us] Mappy hour tomorrow!

2015-03-10 Thread Richard Weait
On Mar 8, 2015 10:43 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 Hey all,

 It's time for Mappy Hour tomorrow! I changed the time slot to 11am
Pacific / 2pm Eastern,

Thanks for organizing these, Martijn. They're fun. :-)
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Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Your opinion about SOTM US

2015-03-10 Thread stevea

Russ Nelson writes:

For OSM in the US? Finding and fixing the badly-digitized TIGER data.


I agree.  Interstates are largely there, state highways are 
getting there, rail is underway now, and a lot of lesser 
streets and highways are cleaned up.   But there remain substantial 
TIGER deserts, and much TIGER data are pretty darn noisy:  downright 
inaccurate (but we do seem to agree, better than nothing).


Who remembers Operation Cowboy?!  We are now kind of doing something 
like that with rail (in a very loose way with 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_States_railways), 
but TIGER data in general just need serious and sustained attention 
until consensus emerges that they don't.  That seems a long way off 
so let's do our best to roll up our sleeves and identify how and 
where this might happen.


SteveA
California

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Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Your opinion about SOTM US

2015-03-10 Thread Clifford Snow
Alex,
Our friends on the other side of the pond like to point out that we have
many poorly and unmapped areas. I'm sure we all agree that their assessment
is correct. Solving this problem should be one of our highest priorities.
Two solutions come to mind, increase the number of imports and growing the
community of mappers. While I feel that imports have their place, i.e.
addresses and building outlines, my preferred solution is to increase the
number of mappers. It would be great to see a session to brainstorm how to
set target growth rates and then how to achieve them.

My sense is that having the US Chapter Board involved is needed to help
overcome some obstacles, ie. funding, software tools, communications, etc.

I'd be happy to create a proposal for such a session, but it would need a
facilitator to help us work with a large group of interested parties. (I
haven't facilitated a large group in many years.) My other obstacle is I'm
currently visiting Costa Rica and I'm often in places with limited internet
access which makes it hard to communicate.

I'd like to get some feedback what others think. Do we have a problem of
being under and poorly mapped lands? Is it worthwhile to hold a session to
build a roadmap to fix it? If so how would you do it?

Clifford

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote:

 Casting the net a little wider:

 What do you think are the big topics and challenges for OpenStreetMap as
 we're about to go into the second decade? What does this mean for State of
 the Map?



 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 Hey all,

 I put together a 3 minute survey about the upcoming State of the Map US
 conference. The main thing I would like to know more about is the types of
 talks you would be interested in, or even specifically which people or
 organizations you would want to see a talk from. You can find the survey
 here: http://goo.gl/forms/YZpm2aPk2O

 If you don't want to fill out the survey, you can also send your opinion
 my way in an email. In any case, thanks in advance for taking the time.

 Remember, the Call for Papers will be open for another 3 weeks:
 http://stateofthemap.us/talk/

 Thanks again,
 --
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 skype: mvexel

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Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Your opinion about SOTM US

2015-03-10 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm still kicking up chunks of stuff GNIS and TIGER pulled in that are
woefully inaccurate. Just did some cursory Lincoln County, NV work after my
father got lost out there while motorcycling with his wife (fortunately for
him, he carries survival basics and knows how to survive in the Great Basin
and how to recover when lost out there, so having bad information was just
super annoying, not necessarily life-threatening in this case).  Seems GNIS
and/or TIGER pulled in some POIs for hamlets that either never existed in
the first place, or were abandoned 50+ years ago and are long gone now.
Whenever I'm out there or I have a reason to edit out there, I do try to
make sure it's at least minimally connected and tagged more or less
correctly (though the geometry might not be super-accurate since we're
talking about having to fix dozens of miles at a time in open-nothing) so
it can at least be used to route back to civilization.

This is definitely a recurring problem for almost every map in the Mojave
and Great Basin deserts and pretty much a matter of life and death for
those visiting a pretty decent chunk of northern Arizona, New Mexico, parts
of southern California, western Utah, southeastern Oregon and just Nevada
in general.  Given that the US Department of the Interior's been trying to
get mapmakers to fix it since the USGS is horribly out of date in the
region, we could probably garner a lot of goodwill by fixing the map so it
doesn't kill people...

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:01 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:

 Alex Barth writes:
   What do you think are the big topics and challenges for OpenStreetMap as
   we're about to go into the second decade? What does this mean for State
 of
   the Map?

 For OSM in the US? Finding and fixing the badly-digitized TIGER
 data. I've got it mostly under control in NY, but I still find bits
 and pieces of it left. And when I go looking in neighboring states, I
 shudder.

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[Talk-us] Call for Venues Open; State of the Map 2016

2015-03-10 Thread Richard Weait
The Call for Venues for State of the Map 2016 is now open.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2016/Call_for_venues

Build a team for your city and bid to host the OpenStreetMap conference.

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Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-10 Thread Volker Schmidt
Two notes:

Mapillary is great, but upload (from phone or from computer) can be very
slow. I have not yet been able to establish what conditions the upload
speed. My experience is that it is much faster in the (European) morning
than in the (European) afternoon/evening. So allow plenty of time (several
hours) between taking Mapillary photos and the successive data entry session

When entering data in OSM make sure that you are not editing with different
teams on the same area. This may produce data conflicts.

Happy mapping

Volker
Padova, Italy
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Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:57 AM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote:


 When entering data in OSM make sure that you are not editing with
 different teams on the same area. This may produce data conflicts.


This plugin can be useful to help coordinate while editing:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/GeoChat
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Re: [Talk-us] Mappy hour tomorrow!

2015-03-10 Thread Paul Johnson
I'm pretty adept at using Google+; if need be I can create the events in
the future, I just need to know when.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net
wrote:

  On 3/8/15 11:49 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:

 Sorry you can't make it Jack.

  The direct hangout link is here - I think:
 https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/event/cpiqg6sldpjconoipvhmd3skhcc
 Sorry, Google+ makes it really hard to just share a link to an event. I
 still don't quite understand how it works.

 that link is telling me i need an invitation; i have requested one and
 am waiting for it.

 i agree, the G+ interface for hangouts is remarkably confusing.

 richard

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[Talk-us] Scholarships and talks deadlines - we'd like to hear from you!

2015-03-10 Thread Alex Barth
Hello everyone -

Important deadlines are coming up for State of the Map US:

- March 15: apply for a scholarship
- March 22: submit a talk
- March 31: last day to get an early bird ticket for $90

This is particularly a call to everyone subscribed to this list. So many of
you do amazing work on the map or on OpenStreetMap software - we'd love to
invite you to share experiences from your work or your ideas for the
project.

Submitting a talk is not the only way to participate:

- You can schedule birds of a feather sessions (round tables) ad-hoc at the
conference
- There will be a hack day with plenty of space and opportunity for code
sprints, documentation sprints, and workshops
- The international Maptime community will hold their summit at the
conference
- The American Red Cross will be hosting a missing maps party
- There will be an NYC foot survey

Get in touch if you have ideas: bo...@opensteretmap.us or just post here on
the list.

This conference is organized by the OpenStreetMap US chapter and volunteers
but this is really an open invitation to anyone in the world. Look at it
like your neighbor is throwing a party and everyone's invited over.

Looking forward to seeing you in New York -

Alex

PS: if you'd like to help spread the word:
https://twitter.com/sotmus/status/575450081886781441

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