Re: [Talk-us] Truck stop gas stations as caravan_site

2015-06-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Jack Burke burke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I was wondering if it is appropriate to tag truck stops with
 tourism=caravan_site. I've noticed a lot of them tagged this way,
 presumably because many of the truck stop chains allow overnight parking of
 RVs, some have dump stations, etc.

 The wiki on caravan_site seems to imply a more specialized place like a
 real RV campsite, which wouldn't include a truck stop.



The original intent of  caravan_site seems to be exactly for that: parking
lots for 1 or 2 night stays of caravans.
If the place was actually nice enough to stay for days, it would be a
camp_site.

Either way the truck stop might have amenities of sanitary_dump_station
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Toilet_Holding_Tank_Disposal,
water_point, and perhaps amenity=toilets for humans.
If it has a sanitary dump station, but you don't know the exact location,
tag sanitary_dump_station=yes.
Tag sanitary_dump_station=no is important information here also.


In Europe there are hundreds of gravel parking lots marked caravan_site:
the sites consist sorely of a parking and (perhaps) water and toilet
facilities.
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[Talk-us] Things that are not buildings but are used as one

2015-06-01 Thread Jack Burke
Is it correct to tag a non-building object with building=yes if it is 
functionally used as one? 

As examples, I'm thinking about restaurants that use an old train car as a 
dining room, or this unusual example of a riverboat as a welcome center 
http://osm.org/go/Tv8f5t42q?layers=Nway=349671718

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Re: [Talk-us] Things that are not buildings but are used as one

2015-06-01 Thread phil


On Mon Jun 1 15:40:22 2015 GMT+0100, Jack Burke wrote:
 Is it correct to tag a non-building object with building=yes if it is 
 functionally used as one? 
 
 As examples, I'm thinking about restaurants that use an old train car as a 
 dining room, or this unusual example of a riverboat as a welcome center 
 http://osm.org/go/Tv8f5t42q?layers=Nway=349671718
 
I see nothing wrong with this approach,  HMS Belfast is mapped as 
building=ship, http://osm.org/way/5006061.

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Re: [Talk-us] Things that are not buildings but are used as one

2015-06-01 Thread Bryan Housel
Yes, this is commonly done in OSM.   Generally speaking, anything with a 
footprint and some kind of roof can get a `building=*` tag.   In most cases 
people tag it as `building=yes` but you could really just make up anything for 
the tag value.   `building=riverboat` or `building=train_car` would be fine.

`building=no` is the only one (afaik) that downstream consumers need to watch 
out for.

Thanks, Bryan



 On Jun 1, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Jack Burke burke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is it correct to tag a non-building object with building=yes if it is 
 functionally used as one? 
 
 As examples, I'm thinking about restaurants that use an old train car as a 
 dining room, or this unusual example of a riverboat as a welcome center 
 http://osm.org/go/Tv8f5t42q?layers=Nway=349671718 
 http://osm.org/go/Tv8f5t42q?layers=Nway=349671718
 
 -jack
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Re: [Talk-us] Things that are not buildings but are used as one

2015-06-01 Thread Hans De Kryger
On Jun 1, 2015 7:53 AM, p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote:



 On Mon Jun 1 15:40:22 2015 GMT+0100, Jack Burke wrote:
  Is it correct to tag a non-building object with building=yes if it is
functionally used as one?
 
  As examples, I'm thinking about restaurants that use an old train car
as a dining room, or this unusual example of a riverboat as a welcome
center http://osm.org/go/Tv8f5t42q?layers=Nway=349671718
 
 I see nothing wrong with this approach,  HMS Belfast is mapped as
building=ship, http://osm.org/way/5006061.
+1

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Re: [Talk-us] State of the Map US: ticket sales close June 1

2015-06-01 Thread Alex Barth
We just extended registration until June 3 noon Eastern - the very last
moment to ensure you'll be on the security list for the UN.

http://stateofthemap.us/

See you in NYC!

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Alex Barth a...@openstreetmap.us wrote:

 If you haven't gotten your ticket yet for State of the Map US do so soon:
 ticket sales close on June 1!

 You can register over on the conference web site http://stateofthemap.us/

 The ticket sales close five days before conference start because we need
 to get a UN security pass for all attendees. For the same reason we won't
 be able to register on a walk-in basis throughout the conference.

 Note that if you haven't booked an accommodation yet, there are still
 great and affordable options through New School open:
 http://stateofthemap.us/venue

 Cheers and looking forward to seeing you in New York City!

 Alex

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[Talk-us] Truck stop gas stations as caravan_site

2015-06-01 Thread Jack Burke
Hi folks, 

I was wondering if it is appropriate to tag truck stops with 
tourism=caravan_site. I've noticed a lot of them tagged this way, presumably 
because many of the truck stop chains allow overnight parking of RVs, some have 
dump stations, etc. 

The wiki on caravan_site seems to imply a more specialized place like a real RV 
campsite, which wouldn't include a truck stop. 

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Re: [Talk-us] Things that are not buildings but are used as one

2015-06-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer




 Am 01.06.2015 um 16:40 schrieb Jack Burke burke...@gmail.com:
 
 Is it correct to tag a non-building object with building=yes if it is 
 functionally used as one? 


although it may not be semantically correct, the building tag is indeed used 
like this. Please note that also many structures that technically aren't 
buildings are often tagged with the building tag

cheers 
Martin
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Re: [Talk-us] Truck stop gas stations as caravan_site

2015-06-01 Thread Mike N

On 6/1/2015 10:34 AM, Jack Burke wrote:

I was wondering if it is appropriate to tag truck stops with
tourism=caravan_site. I've noticed a lot of them tagged this way,
presumably because many of the truck stop chains allow overnight parking
of RVs, some have dump stations, etc.


 It may have started in the early days when caravan_site rendered but 
there was no tourism = truck_stop or whatever might make more sense. 
There is no harm in defining a tagging scheme that makes more sense, but 
I'd not want to change any existing tagging until the rendering catches up.


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