Re: [Talk-us] New JOSM RasterFiltersPlugin
Thanks Blake, When I went to the page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins RasterFilters was not listed. Even after refreshing the page. I'm glad you sent the link http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RasterFilters Alan On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Directions: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RasterFilters Note it has a two step process, install the plugin, restart, go to preferences and download the filters in the Map project tab (3rd from top in mine, has a grid pattern). Clicking the download button there doesn't have a visible effect, but you probably have to do it. After that it works as advertised now. Cheers, Blake On 8/25/2015 4:03 PM, Alan Bragg wrote: Can someone explain , or point me to documentation on how to use the new JOSM RasterFiltersPlugin? The only documentation I can find is The RasterFiltersPlugin allows to choose and apply some images' filters to some layers I loaded the plugin and see no tools, I'm feeling like an idiot. Alan ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] New JOSM RasterFiltersPlugin
Can someone explain , or point me to documentation on how to use the new JOSM RasterFiltersPlugin? The only documentation I can find is The RasterFiltersPlugin allows to choose and apply some images' filters to some layers I loaded the plugin and see no tools, I'm feeling like an idiot. Alan ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] New JOSM RasterFiltersPlugin
Hi, Directions: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RasterFilters Note it has a two step process, install the plugin, restart, go to preferences and download the filters in the Map project tab (3rd from top in mine, has a grid pattern). Clicking the download button there doesn't have a visible effect, but you probably have to do it. After that it works as advertised now. Cheers, Blake On 8/25/2015 4:03 PM, Alan Bragg wrote: Can someone explain , or point me to documentation on how to use the new JOSM RasterFiltersPlugin? The only documentation I can find is The RasterFiltersPlugin allows to choose and apply some images' filters to some layers I loaded the plugin and see no tools, I'm feeling like an idiot. Alan ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER tracing layer updated to 2015 release
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Eric Fischer e...@pobox.com wrote: Last week the US Census Bureau released the 2015 version of TIGER. This afternoon I updated the data in the set of tracing tiles that Mapbox hosts. As before, at zoom level 16 and up, it shows the complete TIGER streets, and at zoom levels 12 through 15, it shows TIGER minus dynamically subtracted OSM so you can more easily find TIGER streets that are missing in OSM. The tile URL has not changed, so if you are using iD or another editor that pulls from editor-imagery-index, you already have the new data. If not, you can manually enter the tile URL: https://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/enf.e0b8291e/{z}/{x}/{y}.png?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZW5mIiwiYSI6IkNJek92bnMifQ.xn2_Uj9RkYTGRuCGg4DXZQ I clicked on the link you provided and received: {message:Not Found} Regards, Greg ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER tracing layer updated to 2015 release
On 2015-08-25 20:48, Greg Morgan wrote: I clicked on the link you provided and received: {message:Not Found} Hi Greg, this URL template isn't meant to be opened directly. You can paste it into an editor's custom layer URL field; the editor will fill in the {x}, {y}, and {z} variables for each tile on screen. -- m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] TIGER tracing layer updated to 2015 release
Last week the US Census Bureau released the 2015 version of TIGER. This afternoon I updated the data in the set of tracing tiles that Mapbox hosts. As before, at zoom level 16 and up, it shows the complete TIGER streets, and at zoom levels 12 through 15, it shows TIGER minus dynamically subtracted OSM so you can more easily find TIGER streets that are missing in OSM. The tile URL has not changed, so if you are using iD or another editor that pulls from editor-imagery-index, you already have the new data. If not, you can manually enter the tile URL: https://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/enf.e0b8291e/{z}/{x}/{y}.png?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZW5mIiwiYSI6IkNJek92bnMifQ.xn2_Uj9RkYTGRuCGg4DXZQ Eric ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Rendering of tracks
On 2015-08-25 19:07, Mark Bradley wrote: I noticed that tracks (leisure - track) are still being rendered as polygons instead of linear features, despite this having been reported as a bug on Github. Hi Mark, I'm not sure if the openstreetmap-carto developers read this mailing list. I believe you're referring to this GitHub issue: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/574 When it comes to software like the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet, an issue gains more traction when someone steps forward with proposed source changes in a pull request. For this particular issue, it sounds like the developers are waiting for community consensus about how leisure=track should be mapped. Here's some recent discussion: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:leisure%3Dtrack It may also be helpful to start a thread on the tagging@ list, if there isn't already one. -- m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER tracing layer updated to 2015 release
Eric, Thanks again for the great service. Clifford On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Eric Fischer e...@pobox.com wrote: Last week the US Census Bureau released the 2015 version of TIGER. This afternoon I updated the data in the set of tracing tiles that Mapbox hosts. As before, at zoom level 16 and up, it shows the complete TIGER streets, and at zoom levels 12 through 15, it shows TIGER minus dynamically subtracted OSM so you can more easily find TIGER streets that are missing in OSM. The tile URL has not changed, so if you are using iD or another editor that pulls from editor-imagery-index, you already have the new data. If not, you can manually enter the tile URL: https://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/enf.e0b8291e/{z}/{x}/{y}.png?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZW5mIiwiYSI6IkNJek92bnMifQ.xn2_Uj9RkYTGRuCGg4DXZQ Eric ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] New JOSM RasterFiltersPlugin
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Alan Bragg alan.d.br...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Blake, When I went to the page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins RasterFilters was not listed. Even after refreshing the page. I'm glad you sent the link http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RasterFilters Alan On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Directions: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RasterFilters Note it has a two step process, install the plugin, restart, go to preferences and download the filters in the Map project tab (3rd from top in mine, has a grid pattern). Clicking the download button there doesn't have a visible effect, but you probably have to do it. After that it works as advertised now. Beyond what Blake said, here are two key phrases from the wiki page. Also after adding at least one layer you can find button *Choose Filter* in the JOSM main window (Figure 2). ... *Note: if you added not raster but OSM layer the Choose Filters button will be disabled.* In practice that means clicking on, say, the MapBox layer, and making sure that the little green check mark is on the same layer. Only then will the Choose Filter icon be enabled so that you can add the filters to the desired layer. Regards, Greg ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Regent Square, PA
Hi, (resent from correct address) OSMF board has received the following message from a Regent Square citizen, maybe someone here is willing and able to verify/fix. I'll make the person aware of this post so they can follow potential replies. Bye Frederik Forwarded Message Subject:Map boundary error Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:15:52 -0400 ... I apologize as I did not know who to contact regarding a mapping error. You have the incorrect boundaries for the neighborhood Regent Square PA USA. Regent Square is one neighborhood comprised of four communities: Wilkinsburg, Edgewood, Swissvale, and the city of Pittsburgh. Your boundaries include only the city of Pittsburgh portion of Regent Square and I noticed the source is from their site. This is a common mistake. The correct mapping boundaries for Regent Square PA can be found on the Regent Square Civic Association's website www.regentsquare-rsca.org. The RSCA represents the entire neighborhood of Regent Square - both residents and businesses alike. Regent Square is slightly different from the average American neighborhood as it is comprised of portions of four different cities. Some compare it to a village. The RSCA has the correct mapping boundaries on their website as well as maps of each of these four communities. --- -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests
Lengthy replies to lengthy post do follow; fair warning. On 08/19/2015 05:29 AM, Nathan Mixter wrote: In any discussions about land use and land cover, we should look at what organizations have done and how they have mapped ares. For instance, in USGS imagery in JOSM you can see how they render borders with just a dashed line and let the land cover have various shades of color on top of it. Complex park boundary mapping semiotics are something that I identified as needing improvement in OSM as far back as 2009, when Nathan and I (along with OSM volunteers Apo42 and DanHomerick) mapped many public recreation areas in Northern California (parks, nature reserves, commons, state beaches...) finding difficulties with how these might be reconciled with landuse tags (forest, wood and meadow). In short, this is not a new problem, and crisp definitions (semantics) along with accurate rendering (semiotics) of our tags (syntax) are the only combination that will solve these ambiguities. The troubles are: 1) getting accurate tagging by everybody (difficult when tags have overloaded meanings), 2) achieving consensus is difficult and time-consuming and 3) rendering update implementations seriously lag 1) and 2) even when they do happen. (Nathan further quotes USDA, USFS and interagency definitions of forest vegetation and landuse/landcover)... And Kevin Kenny replies: I hear a lot of argument here, and much of it is philosophizing. Let me offer another argument. Deficiencies in the standard rendering are leading us to impose constraints that do not exist. YES! To a large degree, Kevin reiterates that 3) (above) is a major problem: mapnik/Standard rendering seems to lag, get wrong, and/or exacerbate the difficulties we have with landuse and landcover issues. Ditto administrative boundaries, especially for public areas of The very idea that we should have to cut out watercourses and highways from a National Forest to show it correctly on a map is absurd. If the renderer cannot cope with the idea that the Elm Ridge Wild Forest (a protected area - and specifically an area of state ownership with public access for recreation and harvesting of fish and game) lies partly within and partly outside the Catskill Park (a different sort of protected area, not all under state ownership) and in turn has several bicycle corridors (an area of less protection) overlaid upon it, then it cannot cope with the messy reality that I work with locally. I believe we agree that watercourses and highways which are IN a National Forest really are inside the polygon boundary defining it, but that we shouldn't necessarily see (rendered) little trees in the middle of a lake, or on top of a highway. These are rendering issues, not tagging issues: nobody should have to cut out of a National Forest polygon every single lake within it so that trees don't render on it, that is indeed absurd. Fix the renderer, instead. This largely seems to be issues with mapnik CSS being ordered properly, though I likely oversimplify. Since I render my own maps, let me begin by observing: THE LACK OF CONSENSUS ON THESE ISSUES MEANS THAT I DO NOT USE OSM AS A DATA SOURCE FOR PROTECTED AREA BOUNDARIES. I go to alternative, mostly government, data sources for the boundaries of government and other protected lands and use them for map production. I simply cannot cope with wholesale retagging of these areas every few months as each new tagging scheme comes through. WE NEED TO REACH SOME SORT OF STABLE CONSENSUS, at least one that lets us produce medium-scale maps suitable for general use without running on a hamster wheel of patching renderers to adapt to changing tag schemes. In a word: YES! I've half come around to the position that National Forest boundaries don't belong in our database at all. They're often not any more observable on the ground than any other property lines - and I believe that we reached a consensus that delineating land ownership is outside the scope of OSM. (Am I wrong about this?) In fact, the reason that I'm able to ignore OSM on the point is that most of the data I need is available in authoritative form from the agencies that manage the land. National Forest boundaries belong in our database as much as other administrative boundaries belong in our database: and THEY DO. Map consumers EXPECT to find these in a map. A map that does not show the boundary between California and Nevada, or California and Mexico? Absurd! If small neighborhood boundaries in a large city are shown or not shown, I can live with it either way. If not shown, perhaps that city has none, or volunteers haven't yet gotten around to that level of detail. If shown, I do not find these to be map clutter, in fact they are useful to me. I think many others or even most of us agree with this sentiment (though that doesn't automatically convey consensus on the topic). That said, we
[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2015-08-22
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel free to ask. However, please do not send me private mail. The odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by asking on the talk-us@ list, others can benefit. Downloads: http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-08-22 Map to visualize what each file contains: http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-08-22/kml/kml.html FAQ Why did you do this? I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media. http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-08-22 Can or should I seed the torrents? Yes!! If you use the .torrent files, please seed. That web server is in the UK, and it helps to have some peers on this side of the Atlantic. Why is my map missing small rectangular areas? There have been some missing tiles from Lambertus's map (the red rectangles), I don't see any at the moment, so you may want to update if you had issues with the last set. Why can I not copy the large files to my new SD card? If you buy a new card (especially SDHC), some are FAT16 from the factory. I had to reformat it to let me create a 2GB file. Does your map cover Mexico/Canada? Yes!! I have, for the purposes of this map, annexed Ontario in to the USA. Some areas of North America that are close to the US also just happen to get pulled in to these maps. This might not happen forever, and if you would like your non-US area to get included, let me know. -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Regent Square, PA
I'll pass along a note to a fellow Pittsburgh mapper that is from that area to see what he can do about this. -James Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:13:47 +0200 From: frede...@remote.org To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-us] Regent Square, PA Hi, (resent from correct address) OSMF board has received the following message from a Regent Square citizen, maybe someone here is willing and able to verify/fix. I'll make the person aware of this post so they can follow potential replies. Bye Frederik Forwarded Message Subject: Map boundary error Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:15:52 -0400 ... I apologize as I did not know who to contact regarding a mapping error. You have the incorrect boundaries for the neighborhood Regent Square PA USA. Regent Square is one neighborhood comprised of four communities: Wilkinsburg, Edgewood, Swissvale, and the city of Pittsburgh. Your boundaries include only the city of Pittsburgh portion of Regent Square and I noticed the source is from their site. This is a common mistake. The correct mapping boundaries for Regent Square PA can be found on the Regent Square Civic Association's website www.regentsquare-rsca.org. The RSCA represents the entire neighborhood of Regent Square - both residents and businesses alike. Regent Square is slightly different from the average American neighborhood as it is comprised of portions of four different cities. Some compare it to a village. The RSCA has the correct mapping boundaries on their website as well as maps of each of these four communities. --- -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Rendering of tracks
I noticed that tracks (leisure - track) are still being rendered as polygons instead of linear features, despite this having been reported as a bug on Github. Mark ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us