Re: [Talk-us] New JOSM RasterFiltersPlugin

2015-08-25 Thread Alan Bragg
Thanks Blake, When I went to the page

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins

RasterFilters was not listed. Even after refreshing the page.

I'm glad you sent the link
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RasterFilters

Alan

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 Directions:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RasterFilters

 Note it has a two step process, install the plugin, restart, go to
 preferences and download the filters in the Map project tab (3rd from top
 in mine, has a grid pattern). Clicking the download button there doesn't
 have a visible effect, but you probably have to do it.

 After that it works as advertised now.

 Cheers,
 Blake




 On 8/25/2015 4:03 PM, Alan Bragg wrote:

 Can someone explain
 ​,​
 ​or point me to documentation on ​
 how to use the
 ​ new​
 JOSM RasterFiltersPlugin?
 The only documentation I can find is  The RasterFiltersPlugin allows to
 choose and apply some images' filters to some layers
 I loaded the plugin and see no tools, I'm feeling like an idiot.
 Alan




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[Talk-us] New JOSM RasterFiltersPlugin

2015-08-25 Thread Alan Bragg
Can someone explain
​,​
​or point me to documentation on ​
how to use the
​ new​
JOSM RasterFiltersPlugin?
The only documentation I can find is  The RasterFiltersPlugin allows to
choose and apply some images' filters to some layers
I loaded the plugin and see no tools, I'm feeling like an idiot.
Alan
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Re: [Talk-us] New JOSM RasterFiltersPlugin

2015-08-25 Thread Blake Girardot

Hi,

Directions:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RasterFilters

Note it has a two step process, install the plugin, restart, go to 
preferences and download the filters in the Map project tab (3rd from 
top in mine, has a grid pattern). Clicking the download button there 
doesn't have a visible effect, but you probably have to do it.


After that it works as advertised now.

Cheers,
Blake



On 8/25/2015 4:03 PM, Alan Bragg wrote:

Can someone explain
​,​
​or point me to documentation on ​
how to use the
​ new​
JOSM RasterFiltersPlugin?
The only documentation I can find is  The RasterFiltersPlugin allows to
choose and apply some images' filters to some layers
I loaded the plugin and see no tools, I'm feeling like an idiot.
Alan




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Re: [Talk-us] TIGER tracing layer updated to 2015 release

2015-08-25 Thread Greg Morgan
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Eric Fischer e...@pobox.com wrote:

 Last week the US Census Bureau released the 2015 version of TIGER. This
 afternoon I updated the data in the set of tracing tiles that Mapbox hosts.

 As before, at zoom level 16 and up, it shows the complete TIGER streets,
 and at zoom levels 12 through 15, it shows TIGER minus dynamically
 subtracted OSM so you can more easily find TIGER streets that are missing
 in OSM.

 The tile URL has not changed, so if you are using iD or another editor
 that pulls from editor-imagery-index, you already have the new data. If
 not, you can manually enter the tile URL:


 https://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/enf.e0b8291e/{z}/{x}/{y}.png?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZW5mIiwiYSI6IkNJek92bnMifQ.xn2_Uj9RkYTGRuCGg4DXZQ



I clicked on the link you provided and received:

{message:Not Found}

Regards,
Greg
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Re: [Talk-us] TIGER tracing layer updated to 2015 release

2015-08-25 Thread Minh Nguyen

On 2015-08-25 20:48, Greg Morgan wrote:

I clicked on the link you provided and received:
{message:Not Found}


Hi Greg, this URL template isn't meant to be opened directly. You can 
paste it into an editor's custom layer URL field; the editor will fill 
in the {x}, {y}, and {z} variables for each tile on screen.


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[Talk-us] TIGER tracing layer updated to 2015 release

2015-08-25 Thread Eric Fischer
Last week the US Census Bureau released the 2015 version of TIGER. This
afternoon I updated the data in the set of tracing tiles that Mapbox hosts.

As before, at zoom level 16 and up, it shows the complete TIGER streets,
and at zoom levels 12 through 15, it shows TIGER minus dynamically
subtracted OSM so you can more easily find TIGER streets that are missing
in OSM.

The tile URL has not changed, so if you are using iD or another editor that
pulls from editor-imagery-index, you already have the new data. If not, you
can manually enter the tile URL:


https://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/enf.e0b8291e/{z}/{x}/{y}.png?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZW5mIiwiYSI6IkNJek92bnMifQ.xn2_Uj9RkYTGRuCGg4DXZQ

Eric
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Re: [Talk-us] Rendering of tracks

2015-08-25 Thread Minh Nguyen

On 2015-08-25 19:07, Mark Bradley wrote:

I noticed that tracks (leisure - track) are still being rendered as
polygons instead of linear features, despite this having been reported
as a bug on Github.


Hi Mark, I'm not sure if the openstreetmap-carto developers read this 
mailing list. I believe you're referring to this GitHub issue:


https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/574

When it comes to software like the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet, an 
issue gains more traction when someone steps forward with proposed 
source changes in a pull request. For this particular issue, it sounds 
like the developers are waiting for community consensus about how 
leisure=track should be mapped. Here's some recent discussion:


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:leisure%3Dtrack

It may also be helpful to start a thread on the tagging@ list, if there 
isn't already one.


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Re: [Talk-us] TIGER tracing layer updated to 2015 release

2015-08-25 Thread Clifford Snow
Eric,
Thanks again for the great service.

Clifford

On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Eric Fischer e...@pobox.com wrote:

 Last week the US Census Bureau released the 2015 version of TIGER. This
 afternoon I updated the data in the set of tracing tiles that Mapbox hosts.

 As before, at zoom level 16 and up, it shows the complete TIGER streets,
 and at zoom levels 12 through 15, it shows TIGER minus dynamically
 subtracted OSM so you can more easily find TIGER streets that are missing
 in OSM.

 The tile URL has not changed, so if you are using iD or another editor
 that pulls from editor-imagery-index, you already have the new data. If
 not, you can manually enter the tile URL:


 https://a.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/enf.e0b8291e/{z}/{x}/{y}.png?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZW5mIiwiYSI6IkNJek92bnMifQ.xn2_Uj9RkYTGRuCGg4DXZQ

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Re: [Talk-us] New JOSM RasterFiltersPlugin

2015-08-25 Thread Greg Morgan
On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Alan Bragg alan.d.br...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Blake, When I went to the page

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins

 RasterFilters was not listed. Even after refreshing the page.

 I'm glad you sent the link
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RasterFilters

 Alan

 On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Directions:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/RasterFilters

 Note it has a two step process, install the plugin, restart, go to
 preferences and download the filters in the Map project tab (3rd from top
 in mine, has a grid pattern). Clicking the download button there doesn't
 have a visible effect, but you probably have to do it.

 After that it works as advertised now.



Beyond what Blake said, here are two key phrases from the wiki page.

Also after adding at least one layer you can find button *Choose Filter* in
the JOSM main window (Figure 2).
...
*Note: if you added not raster but OSM layer the Choose Filters button
will be disabled.*

In practice that means clicking on, say, the MapBox layer, and making sure
that the little green check mark is on the same layer. Only then will the
Choose Filter icon be enabled so that you can add the filters to the
desired layer.

Regards,
Greg
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[Talk-us] Regent Square, PA

2015-08-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

   (resent from correct address)

   OSMF board has received the following message from a Regent Square
citizen, maybe someone here is willing and able to verify/fix. I'll make
the person aware of this post so they can follow potential replies.

Bye
Frederik


 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Map boundary error
Date:   Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:15:52 -0400

...

I apologize as I did not know who to contact regarding a mapping error.
You have the incorrect boundaries for the neighborhood Regent Square PA
USA.  Regent Square is one neighborhood comprised of four communities:
Wilkinsburg, Edgewood, Swissvale, and the city of Pittsburgh.  Your
boundaries include only the city of Pittsburgh portion of Regent Square
and I noticed the source is from their site. This is a common mistake.

The correct mapping boundaries for Regent Square PA can be found on the
Regent Square Civic Association's website www.regentsquare-rsca.org. The
RSCA represents the entire neighborhood of Regent Square - both
residents and businesses alike.

Regent Square is slightly different from the average American
neighborhood as it is comprised of portions of four different cities.
Some compare it to a village.  The RSCA has the correct mapping
boundaries on their website as well as maps of each of these four
communities.

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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging National Forests

2015-08-25 Thread stevea

Lengthy replies to lengthy post do follow; fair warning.


On 08/19/2015 05:29 AM, Nathan Mixter wrote:
In any discussions about land use and land cover, we should look at 
what organizations have done and how they have mapped ares. For 
instance, in USGS imagery in JOSM you can see how they render 
borders with just a dashed line and let the land cover have various 
shades of color on top of it.


Complex park boundary mapping semiotics are something that I 
identified as needing improvement in OSM as far back as 2009, when 
Nathan and I (along with OSM volunteers Apo42 and DanHomerick) mapped 
many public recreation areas in Northern California (parks, nature 
reserves, commons, state beaches...) finding difficulties with how 
these might be reconciled with landuse tags (forest, wood and 
meadow).  In short, this is not a new problem, and crisp definitions 
(semantics) along with accurate rendering (semiotics) of our tags 
(syntax) are the only combination that will solve these ambiguities. 
The troubles are:  1) getting accurate tagging by everybody 
(difficult when tags have overloaded meanings), 2) achieving 
consensus is difficult and time-consuming and 3) rendering update 
implementations seriously lag 1) and 2) even when they do happen.


(Nathan further quotes USDA, USFS and interagency definitions of 
forest vegetation and landuse/landcover)...


And Kevin Kenny replies:
I hear a lot of argument here, and much of it is philosophizing. Let 
me offer another argument. Deficiencies in the standard rendering 
are leading us to impose constraints that do not exist.


YES!  To a large degree, Kevin reiterates that 3) (above) is a major 
problem:  mapnik/Standard rendering seems to lag, get wrong, and/or 
exacerbate the difficulties we have with landuse and landcover 
issues.  Ditto administrative boundaries, especially for public areas 
of


The very idea that we should have to cut out watercourses and 
highways from a National Forest to show it correctly on a map is 
absurd. If the renderer cannot cope with the idea that the Elm Ridge 
Wild Forest (a protected area - and specifically an area of state 
ownership with public access for recreation and harvesting of fish 
and game) lies partly within and partly outside the Catskill Park (a 
different sort of protected area, not all under state ownership) and 
in turn has several bicycle corridors (an area of less protection) 
overlaid upon it, then it cannot cope with the messy reality that I 
work with locally.


I believe we agree that watercourses and highways which are IN a 
National Forest really are inside the polygon boundary defining it, 
but that we shouldn't necessarily see (rendered) little trees in 
the middle of a lake, or on top of a highway.  These are rendering 
issues, not tagging issues:  nobody should have to cut out of a 
National Forest polygon every single lake within it so that trees 
don't render on it, that is indeed absurd.  Fix the renderer, 
instead.  This largely seems to be issues with mapnik CSS being 
ordered properly, though I likely oversimplify.


Since I render my own maps, let me begin by observing: THE LACK OF 
CONSENSUS ON THESE ISSUES MEANS THAT I DO NOT USE OSM AS A DATA 
SOURCE FOR PROTECTED AREA BOUNDARIES. I go to alternative, mostly 
government, data sources for the boundaries of government and other 
protected lands and use them for map production. I simply cannot 
cope with wholesale retagging of these areas every few months as 
each new tagging scheme comes through. WE NEED TO REACH SOME SORT OF 
STABLE CONSENSUS, at least one that lets us produce medium-scale 
maps suitable for general use without running on a hamster wheel of 
patching renderers to adapt to changing tag schemes.


In a word:  YES!

I've half come around to the position that National Forest 
boundaries don't belong in our database at all. They're often not 
any more observable on the ground than any other property lines - 
and I believe that we reached a consensus that delineating land 
ownership is outside the scope of OSM. (Am I wrong about this?) In 
fact, the reason that I'm able to ignore OSM on the point is that 
most of the data I need is available in authoritative form from the 
agencies that manage the land.


National Forest boundaries belong in our database as much as other 
administrative boundaries belong in our database:  and THEY DO.  Map 
consumers EXPECT to find these in a map.  A map that does not show 
the boundary between California and Nevada, or California and Mexico? 
Absurd!  If small neighborhood boundaries in a large city are shown 
or not shown, I can live with it either way.  If not shown, perhaps 
that city has none, or volunteers haven't yet gotten around to that 
level of detail.  If shown, I do not find these to be map clutter, 
in fact they are useful to me.  I think many others or even most of 
us agree with this sentiment (though that doesn't automatically 
convey consensus on the topic).  That said, we 

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2015-08-22

2015-08-25 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here:

http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel
free to ask.  However, please do not send me private mail.  The
odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by
asking on the talk-us@ list, others can benefit.

Downloads:

http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-08-22

Map to visualize what each file contains:


http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-08-22/kml/kml.html


FAQ



Why did you do this?

I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact
of doing a large join on Lambertus's server.  I've also
cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently
on removable media.  

http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-08-22

Can or should I seed the torrents?

Yes!!  If you use the .torrent files, please seed.  That web
server is in the UK, and it helps to have some peers on this
side of the Atlantic.

Why is my map missing small rectangular areas?

There have been some missing tiles from Lambertus's map (the
red rectangles),  I don't see any at the moment, so you may
want to update if you had issues with the last set.

Why can I not copy the large files to my new SD card?

If you buy a new card (especially SDHC), some are FAT16 from
the factory.  I had to reformat it to let me create a 2GB
file.

Does your map cover Mexico/Canada?

Yes!!  I have, for the purposes of this map, annexed Ontario
in to the USA.  Some areas of North America that are close
to the US also just happen to get pulled in to these maps.
This might not happen forever, and if you would like your
non-US area to get included, let me know. 

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Re: [Talk-us] Regent Square, PA

2015-08-25 Thread James Mast
I'll pass along a note to a fellow Pittsburgh mapper that is from that area to 
see what he can do about this.

-James

 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:13:47 +0200
 From: frede...@remote.org
 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: [Talk-us] Regent Square, PA
 
 Hi,
 
(resent from correct address)
 
OSMF board has received the following message from a Regent Square
 citizen, maybe someone here is willing and able to verify/fix. I'll make
 the person aware of this post so they can follow potential replies.
 
 Bye
 Frederik
 
 
  Forwarded Message 
 Subject:  Map boundary error
 Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 01:15:52 -0400
 
 ...
 
 I apologize as I did not know who to contact regarding a mapping error.
 You have the incorrect boundaries for the neighborhood Regent Square PA
 USA.  Regent Square is one neighborhood comprised of four communities:
 Wilkinsburg, Edgewood, Swissvale, and the city of Pittsburgh.  Your
 boundaries include only the city of Pittsburgh portion of Regent Square
 and I noticed the source is from their site. This is a common mistake.
 
 The correct mapping boundaries for Regent Square PA can be found on the
 Regent Square Civic Association's website www.regentsquare-rsca.org. The
 RSCA represents the entire neighborhood of Regent Square - both
 residents and businesses alike.
 
 Regent Square is slightly different from the average American
 neighborhood as it is comprised of portions of four different cities.
 Some compare it to a village.  The RSCA has the correct mapping
 boundaries on their website as well as maps of each of these four
 communities.
 
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[Talk-us] Rendering of tracks

2015-08-25 Thread Mark Bradley
I noticed that tracks (leisure - track) are still being rendered as
polygons instead of linear features, despite this having been reported as a
bug on Github.

 

Mark

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