Re: [Talk-us] Announcing New MapRoulette beta

2018-03-26 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all,

It was brought to my attention that the 'direct links' to individual 
challenges, below, do not reliably work yet. Let that be an invitation to use 
the search / filter functions to find these Challenges in MapRoulette while we 
fix this[1] :)

[1] https://github.com/maproulette/maproulette3/issues/224
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  Martijn van Exel
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On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, at 12:13, Martijn van Exel wrote:
> Hi all, 
> 
> A brand new MapRoulette is now in public beta and I would very much like 
> for you to start using it and let me know what you think! You can go to 
> http://maproulette.org/mr3 right now to try it.
> 
> If you're not familiar with MapRoulette, it's a micro-tasking tool that 
> serves up small tasks to improve OpenStreetMap in <1 minute. The tasks 
> are grouped in challenges which anyone can create. Some examples are 
> below.
> 
> Here is an overview of MapRoulette and the new features in this release: 
> https://github.com/maproulette/maproulette3/wiki/What's-new-in-MapRoulette-3 
> 
> Some examples of US based challenges that you may enjoy working on:
> * Fix TIGER roads in Washington: 
> http://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/2871
> * A similar challenge for LA County: 
> http://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/237 
> * Add Georgia Motorway Exit Destination Information: 
> http://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/2939 (there are 'sister' 
> challenges for other states, use the search to locate those.)
> 
> There are challenges worldwide in case you prefer to help folks abroad.
> 
> Anyone can create challenges! You can use a GeoJSON file or an Overpass 
> query. The Challenge wizard is much improved compared to the previous 
> version. Your feedback on that is especially welcome. If you need help, 
> holler.
> 
> Please let me know your feedback and ideas!
> -- 
>   Martijn van Exel
>   m...@rtijn.org

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[Talk-us] Announcing New MapRoulette beta

2018-03-26 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all, 

A brand new MapRoulette is now in public beta and I would very much like for 
you to start using it and let me know what you think! You can go to 
http://maproulette.org/mr3 right now to try it.

If you're not familiar with MapRoulette, it's a micro-tasking tool that serves 
up small tasks to improve OpenStreetMap in <1 minute. The tasks are grouped in 
challenges which anyone can create. Some examples are below.

Here is an overview of MapRoulette and the new features in this release: 
https://github.com/maproulette/maproulette3/wiki/What's-new-in-MapRoulette-3 

Some examples of US based challenges that you may enjoy working on:
* Fix TIGER roads in Washington: 
http://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/2871
* A similar challenge for LA County: 
http://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/237 
* Add Georgia Motorway Exit Destination Information: 
http://maproulette.org/mr3/browse/challenges/2939 (there are 'sister' 
challenges for other states, use the search to locate those.)

There are challenges worldwide in case you prefer to help folks abroad.

Anyone can create challenges! You can use a GeoJSON file or an Overpass query. 
The Challenge wizard is much improved compared to the previous version. Your 
feedback on that is especially welcome. If you need help, holler.

Please let me know your feedback and ideas!
-- 
  Martijn van Exel
  m...@rtijn.org

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Re: [Talk-us] Amtrak network=Amtrak tagging

2018-03-26 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
I should have included:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_States_railways

as that is a better starting place (for your flavor of question) than our "at 
the top" Amtrak wiki.

There's a lot to grok to become a good OSM rail editor (and don't forget 
updating wiki), yet, many of us are doing exactly that!

Steve
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Re: [Talk-us] Amtrak network=Amtrak tagging

2018-03-26 Thread OSM Volunteer stevea
Hi Greg:

Great questions.  If you are a rail public_transport:version=2 super-jockey, 
hey, polish them up to a firm buff and we'll marvel at their brilliant shine!

However (and this is pedestrian me), I make "better" progress (higher quality 
data, at the expense of being slower) following roughly these steps to get to 
version 1, first.  Though these ordered steps are not strictly required, after 
much experience, I find this flow works and "teaches/practices me into becoming 
a better JOSM rail editor" (and others watching in the map, and progress in the 
wiki...) as I go:

1)  Tag the rail infrastructure correctly with railway=rail (or light_rail, 
subway, tram, monorail...).  If it was TIGER-imported, change its name=* tag to 
operator=* and if you know it, add a name=* tag (like XYZ Subdivision or Orange 
Line Light Rail).  Set a usage=[main, branch, industrial...] tag.  Don't 
include service=siding, service=yard, service=crossover, service=spur in 
route=railway relations, just the "main" line (even if it is tagged 
usage=branch).

2)  Gather same-infrastructure, same-name, same-operator, same=usage, "in the 
same subdivision or track set" into one route=railway relation.

3)  If not light_rail, subway, monorail or tram, make a route=train relation 
which has the elements of that route=railway relation, plus railway=station 
nodes.  (If tram, they might be rail=tram_stop nodes...there is also platform 
tagging, which is for v2, we are getting there).

With those steps, you've made a route=railway (important!) as well as a v1 
train route.  As for extending these to v2, that's more complex and is outside 
the scope of a talk-us post, I'll not do it here, we have wikis for this.

"Starting at the top" (national passenger rail) is 
https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Amtrak.
There are several state Rail wikis, a simple one is 
https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/New_Mexico/Railroads, 
a medium-complexity one is https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/South Carolina/Railroads,
a ridiculously-complex one is https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/California/Railroads.

These are usually about 75%-80% descriptive of route=railway relations (the 
underlying infrastructure, which carries both freight/industrial traffic and 
sometimes also passenger traffic) and maybe 20%-25% descriptive of route=train 
(or other passenger rail, like tram, light_rail or monorail).

See https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Relation:route (train, light_rail...) wiki to get 
to v1, and https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Relation:public_transport to grow these to 
v2 (underway now all over the world there are v1 train routes in OSM).

Happy to help,
Steve

> On Mar 25, 2018, at 11:09 PM, Greg Morgan  wrote:
> 
> I wonder what to do with some of the routes.  For example, additional tracks 
> were added in the Tucson area. If we add a route, say, us 60 then an east and 
> west relation is created along with a master route. Do we do the same with 
> rail routes or are all the rails thrown into the same relation?
> 
> Regards,
> Greg

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