Re: [Talk-us] California is too big ;)
For what it's worth, your proposed dividing line sounds as reasonable as anything else. (Coming from someone who lived in SoCal briefly, over 25 years ago.) On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 4:28 PM OSM Volunteer stevea < stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote: > Reminding everybody that whatever Frederik decides to do about California, > it isn't "authoritative," simply helpful to keep OSM data manageable. > Sure, keeping "a solution" logical, simple, "politically correct" and > achieving some consensus (as we have) are all helpful towards that goal, > but nobody wins or loses here. > > SteveA > California > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] California is too big ;)
Reminding everybody that whatever Frederik decides to do about California, it isn't "authoritative," simply helpful to keep OSM data manageable. Sure, keeping "a solution" logical, simple, "politically correct" and achieving some consensus (as we have) are all helpful towards that goal, but nobody wins or loses here. SteveA California ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] California is too big ;)
Thanks Drew! I don't have any legs to stand on anymore so i'm also going to bow out of the conversation :) Anything you decide to do is fine with me Frederik. Sincerely, Vivek Bansal On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 10:07 AM Drew Dara-Abrams wrote: > Hi Vivek, Interline's OSM Extracts service generates extracts for all of > those California metro regions that you list -- all extracts are updated > daily. See https://www.interline.io/osm/extracts/ and > https://github.com/interline-io/osm-extracts/blob/master/cities.json > > Hi Frederik, we see the Interline OSM Extracts service as complementary to > Geofabrik, rather than trying to compete. Our own interest is in city/metro > extracts, as our clients use these to power routing engines and other > transportation analysis applications at the regional scale. It's great to > have the comprehensive country and state coverage provided by Geofabrik. > Feel free to drop me a line anytime at d...@interline.io. > > I'm a native Californian and know how contentious the intra-state divides > can be... so I'll now leave this thread :) > > Drew > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:12 PM Vivek Bansal <3viv...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I told you Californians loved attention! >> >> I picked 6 Californias because I thought it was the nicest way to divide >> up the state into equally sized shapes with some reference to political >> boundaries. I also "detest" the politics of breaking up California but I >> like the geospatial organization. >> >> I don't have an opinion where a north south line would go. >> >> That being said, (I think i'm repeating myself in a slightly different >> way i'm sorry for that) alternatively would you consider adding a few of >> the most populous regions and cities to the sub of California like you do >> for Germany? Just as you have an extract for Brandenberg (mit Berlin) as >> well as Berlin, could you do the San Francisco Bay area as well as San >> Francisco? To make it easy, perhaps just use similar boundaries that >> existed for Metro Extracts - >> https://github.com/mapzen/metro-extracts/blob/master/cities.json namely: >> - san-francisco-bay_california >> - san-francisco_california >> - san-jose_california >> - los-angeles_california >> - san-diego_california >> >> There must have been a demand for those regions to be added to that list >> and I think the vast majority of analyses would take place at these levels. >> >> Thanks so much! >> >> -Vivek >> >> On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:11 PM Tod Fitch wrote: >> >>> >>> > On Nov 6, 2018, at 1:58 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea < >>> stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > Taken "straight across the state" (west to east), following the >>> political boundaries of "the northern edges of three counties" >>> (admin_level=6) to break up a state (admin_level=4), it's both easy >>> (technically, simply "10 counties out of 58" or "northern edges of three >>> counties"), agreeable by many, a political reality right now, mostly >>> straight along a similar latitude line and already somewhat harmonious >>> among the relatively small sample of people here on this list who have >>> something to say about it. (Not that we're definitive, nor am I, >>> personally). But, look, we did come to a rough consensus on a relatively >>> simple solution rather quickly and easily. >>> > >>> > I say "we've thrown it against the wall, and it seems to stick." >>> (Though of course, more discussion is welcome). >>> > >>> > SteveA >>> > California >>> >>> +1 to this. Seems like a reasonable place to make a division to me. >>> >>> Tod >>> also in California >>> >>> ___ >>> Talk-us mailing list >>> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >>> >> ___ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] California is too big ;)
Hi Vivek, Interline's OSM Extracts service generates extracts for all of those California metro regions that you list -- all extracts are updated daily. See https://www.interline.io/osm/extracts/ and https://github.com/interline-io/osm-extracts/blob/master/cities.json Hi Frederik, we see the Interline OSM Extracts service as complementary to Geofabrik, rather than trying to compete. Our own interest is in city/metro extracts, as our clients use these to power routing engines and other transportation analysis applications at the regional scale. It's great to have the comprehensive country and state coverage provided by Geofabrik. Feel free to drop me a line anytime at d...@interline.io. I'm a native Californian and know how contentious the intra-state divides can be... so I'll now leave this thread :) Drew On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 10:12 PM Vivek Bansal <3viv...@gmail.com> wrote: > I told you Californians loved attention! > > I picked 6 Californias because I thought it was the nicest way to divide > up the state into equally sized shapes with some reference to political > boundaries. I also "detest" the politics of breaking up California but I > like the geospatial organization. > > I don't have an opinion where a north south line would go. > > That being said, (I think i'm repeating myself in a slightly different way > i'm sorry for that) alternatively would you consider adding a few of the > most populous regions and cities to the sub of California like you do for > Germany? Just as you have an extract for Brandenberg (mit Berlin) as well > as Berlin, could you do the San Francisco Bay area as well as San > Francisco? To make it easy, perhaps just use similar boundaries that > existed for Metro Extracts - > https://github.com/mapzen/metro-extracts/blob/master/cities.json namely: > - san-francisco-bay_california > - san-francisco_california > - san-jose_california > - los-angeles_california > - san-diego_california > > There must have been a demand for those regions to be added to that list > and I think the vast majority of analyses would take place at these levels. > > Thanks so much! > > -Vivek > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:11 PM Tod Fitch wrote: > >> >> > On Nov 6, 2018, at 1:58 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea < >> stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote: >> > >> > Taken "straight across the state" (west to east), following the >> political boundaries of "the northern edges of three counties" >> (admin_level=6) to break up a state (admin_level=4), it's both easy >> (technically, simply "10 counties out of 58" or "northern edges of three >> counties"), agreeable by many, a political reality right now, mostly >> straight along a similar latitude line and already somewhat harmonious >> among the relatively small sample of people here on this list who have >> something to say about it. (Not that we're definitive, nor am I, >> personally). But, look, we did come to a rough consensus on a relatively >> simple solution rather quickly and easily. >> > >> > I say "we've thrown it against the wall, and it seems to stick." >> (Though of course, more discussion is welcome). >> > >> > SteveA >> > California >> >> +1 to this. Seems like a reasonable place to make a division to me. >> >> Tod >> also in California >> >> ___ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
