Re: [Talk-us] Population during mandatory evacuations

[Greg Troxel]

Minh Nguyen  writes:

> (Crossposted to the talk-us and tagging lists.)
>
> Due to the ongoing Camp Fire in Northern California [1], the place POI
> for the town of Paradise got tagged with population=0 before the
> change was reverted. Following some discussion about this changeset in
> OSMUS Slack [2], I started a discussion on the wiki about preferring
> more stable population figures over supposition about temporary
> circumstances. [3]

That's really unreasonable that somebody would do that.

Obviously population is the number of people whose residence is in a
place, or something like that, not how many people are there this
minute.

It does get tricky for communities that have year-rounders and summer
people, where "residence" is blurry.  But everybody leaving for a week
does not change the population, just as people showing up for a parade
for 6 hours does not etiher.

On top of that, the idea that it's 0, between emergency people and
non-compliant people, does not in general seem credible, and if the
person making the edit was not actually there and able to judge this,
they're out of line on that basis too.


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[Talk-us] Population during mandatory evacuations

[Minh Nguyen]

(Crossposted to the talk-us and tagging lists.)

Due to the ongoing Camp Fire in Northern California [1], the place POI 
for the town of Paradise got tagged with population=0 before the change 
was reverted. Following some discussion about this changeset in OSMUS 
Slack [2], I started a discussion on the wiki about preferring more 
stable population figures over supposition about temporary 
circumstances. [3]


[1] 
[2] 
[3] 



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m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us


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[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2018-11-10

[Dave Hansen]

These are based off of Lambertus's work here:

http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel
free to ask.  However, please do not send me private mail.  The
odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by
asking on the talk-us@ list, others can benefit.

Downloads:

http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2018-11-10

Map to visualize what each file contains:


http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2018-11-10/kml/kml.html


FAQ



Why did you do this?

I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact
of doing a large join on Lambertus's server.  I've also
cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently
on removable media.  

http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2018-11-10

Can or should I seed the torrents?

Yes!!  If you use the .torrent files, please seed.  That web
server is in the UK, and it helps to have some peers on this
side of the Atlantic.

Why is my map missing small rectangular areas?

There have been some missing tiles from Lambertus's map (the
red rectangles),  I don't see any at the moment, so you may
want to update if you had issues with the last set.

Why can I not copy the large files to my new SD card?

If you buy a new card (especially SDHC), some are FAT16 from
the factory.  I had to reformat it to let me create a >2GB
file.

Does your map cover Mexico/Canada?

Yes!!  I have, for the purposes of this map, annexed Ontario
in to the USA.  Some areas of North America that are close
to the US also just happen to get pulled in to these maps.
This might not happen forever, and if you would like your
non-US area to get included, let me know. 

-- Dave


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