[Talk-us] Wilderness in National Forest?

[Joseph Eisenberg]

I've noticed that federal Wilderness areas in Northern California and
Southern Oregon are mapped as if they are not part of the surrounding
national forest(s).

Is this correct mapping? On older USGS maps the Wilderness areas were
always shown as being enclosed by the surrounding National Forest (or
other Federal lands).

From Wikipedia:
"Wilderness areas are parts of national parks, wildlife refuges,
national forests, and BLM lands; some units managed by different
agencies. Initially, the NWPS included 34 areas protecting 9.1 million
acres (37,000 km2) in the national forests. ... "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Wilderness_Preservation_System

Also, boundary=protected_area is going to be rendered on the
Openstreetmap-carto style soon. I'd suggest we take a look into adding
boundary=protected_area with protect_class=* as appropriate.

https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3509

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[Talk-us] Monterey - Santa Cruz County line in Monterey Bay

[Joseph Eisenberg]

From the Help page, user kurtrad writes:

> "A friend of mine says the Monterey/Santa Cruz county line in openstreets 3 
> miles out to sea that travels from the mouth of the pajaro river to the north 
> south california boundary line is wrong. In openstreetsmap the line travels 
> west, south, west. My friend says the line should travel directly west."

> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=11/36.8266/-121.9009

"I have a friend who says the openstreets map county line between
Monterey and Santa Cruz is wrong according to a 1927 California
Supreme Court Ruling."

> "Comments: Official boundaries of Monterey-Santa Cruz, as determined by the 
> California Supreme Court in Ocean Industries v. Superior Court of California, 
> in and for Santa Cruz County (1927) 200 Cal. 235. The decision held that 
> Monterey Bay as a "closed bay" under law, and there is treated as if it were 
> land for purposes of State and County jurisdiction -- which, in the case, 
> held that Santa Cruz County could enforce fishing regulations in SCZ waters 
> in Monterey Bay more than 3 miles offshore."

"I have a longish discussion at
http://creagrus.home.montereybay.com/MtyBay-boundaries.html;

> "Government Code section 23127 defines Monterey County as "beginning in the 
> Pacific Ocean, at the southwest corner of Santa Cruz [County]; thence east to 
> the mouth of the Pajaro River". Likewise, section 23144 defines Santa Cruz 
> County, in pertinent part, as "westerly along said [Pajaro] River" along the 
> northern line of San Benito and Monterey "to the Bay of Monterey, and three 
> miles westerly into the ocean."

> "The ... map shows a line across Monterey Bay in this tiny sliver of the Bay 
> that runs not > "west-east" but about WSW-ENE and connects up with the 
> "nearest point of land" line at the 3 mile limit west of Monterey Bay."

> "To see images go to 
> http://creagrus.home.montereybay.com/MtyBay-boundaries.html;

Does anyone want to look into this?
- Joseph

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