Re: [Talk-us] Fictional / Old locations (was: User HomocideBaltimore)
Maybe what you are looking for is http://www.openhistoricalmap.org/ . It is "an effort to use the OSM infrastructure as a foundation for creating the world's most universal, detailed, and out-of-date map." On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 6:05 PM Ray Kiddy wrote: > > Good to know about the opengeofiction site. I have wondered what to do, > for example, with a school in Sunnyvale CA that closed 20+ years ago. I > think it is still on the OSM map. > > It seems there could be a way to mark a location with "x was here" but > that could become a huge mess > > Have others had ideas, not on fictional sites, but on actual sites that > existed in the past? I know there are "historically re-created maps". I > seem to recall a map of ancient Rome as it was then. But anything with > OSM data? > > cheers - ray > > > On > Fri, 11 Sep 2015 23:30:48 +0200 Frederik Ramm > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On 09/11/2015 11:14 PM, Luis Villa wrote: > > > Agreed that clearly these edits need to be reverted and the account > > > probably blocked, but just curious: is there no alternate service > > > (akin to the historical maps project) for this person to play in? > > > > There's opengeofiction.net which uses OSM software to drive it, but > > allows you to create your own fictional (part of) the map. Of course > > basic communication skills are a plus even there. And they don't have > > aerial imagery (unless they've turned their fiction level to eleven > > since I last looked). > > > > Bye > > Frederik > > > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Misspelled names
The iD editor uses the Name Suggestion Index to suggest correct spellings and tags for common places. ( https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/blob/e3b1dafc0acea3e18543647920748962f849e204/canonical.json#L361 ) I've submitted a few pull requests, but haven't seen much activity on this project in the past year. On Thu Dec 18 2014 at 12:50:29 PM Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On Wed, 2014-12-17 at 16:13 -0600, Mike Henson wrote: > > > I am still having issues with Sonic (http://www.sonicdrivein.com/) > > > > people use SONIC, Sonic or Sonic Drive-in on OSM. The website is no > > help because they also use all 3 names... Is there a consensus on > > Sonic? > > I use Sonic, no caps, and no "Drive-in". At least one location in > Houston is drive-thru only; Sonic also had a food court location in > Willowbrook Mall for a while. > > > I am also having an issue with Walmart, should it be a Marketplace, > > Supermarket, Department store??? All 3 are used in OSM in Oklahoma. > > It should be the same as Target with a grocery store, unless it's a > "Walmart Neighborhood Market" which is clearly just shop=supermarket. > The last Walmart I tagged was shop=department_store but it probably > should be shop=department_store;supermarket instead. > > -- > Shawn K. Quinn > > > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Tagging addresses on area's
Mkgmap will search for an entrance=main, then an entrance=yes, and lastly use the building's centroid. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:21 AM Hans De Kryger wrote: > Does anyone know if osm navigation apps can route you to your location > using area's tagged with a full address? I ask because I've been tagging > apartment complexes, (Retail area's with names) with full addresses. Adding > the data to the area. > > *Regards,* > > *Hans* > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Directional suffixes on roads: yes or no?
Yes, I realize this isn't the exact same thing, but divided roads also may have directional suffixes. I.e, Westchester Avenue East. https://goo.gl/maps/yfBXy On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:07 PM James Mast wrote: > Brian, I think you're confused here on this subject. We're talking about > roads that have stuff like 'NW' [1] in the name on street signs. Nothing > about divided roads. > > -James > > [1] - http://goo.gl/maps/wB8IR > > -- > From: briane...@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 11:32:54 + > To: elliott.pl...@gmail.com; burke...@gmail.com; talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Directional suffixes on roads: yes or no? > > > The FGDC doesn't make any reference to pre-directionals when used for a > divided road (dual carriageway). The problem with these roads is addresses > don't use the pre-directional, but road signs do. Here's one example: > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/295032159#map=16/41.0291/-73.7359 > > The address of the highlighted building is "333 Westchester Avenue". Along > this divided street, the odd building numbers are on the south side and the > even numbers are on the north. > > For divided highways, one may see a directional modifier on the signs, but > on the map it's never included, or if it is included, is done through super > relations. I.e., I-84 contains two relations, one is I-84 Eastbound and the > other I-84 Westbound. The contains way's whose role is east/west, but are > named I-84. > > For divided roads, it seems it's best to put the directional modifier in > the relation's role and omit it from the name. > > > On Mon Dec 01 2014 at 12:56:30 AM Elliott Plack > wrote: > > Jack, > > Good question. I come from a local government geographer perspective. I > feel that the data should be as authoritative and official as possible with > regard to naming. It's simple for a computer algorithm to abbreviate, > ignore or omit information, but quite difficult to synthesize missing > information. > > The directional suffix you refer to is officially called a post > directional. The Federal Geographic Data Committee definition is, "A word > following the street name that indicates the directional taken by the > thoroughfare from an arbitrary starting point, or the sector where it is > located." See section 1.7.2.6 > http://www.fgdc.gov/standards/projects/FGDC-standards-projects/street-address/05-11.2ndDraft.CompleteDoc.pdf > > When you say that most people don't refer to it as such, that can > definitely pose a challenge to cartographers. My opinion is to use the full > name with the post directional and let map data users (or humans) choose > what to ignore. > > Kindly, > > Elliott > On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 23:41 Jack Burke wrote: > > Howdy, > > I have a question about how much effort should be put into adding > directional suffixes to road names. > > Many counties around Atlanta have adopted directional suffixes for roads, > both in incorporated areas as well as outside city limits. Usually all > areas in the county use the same system, with directions denoted NE, SE, NW > and SW from some standard point, although some cities tend to ignore the > suffixes. Also, signage is inconsistent--some street signs bear the suffix > while others on the same street don't. > > In most cases, the suffix is immaterial, and most people don't use it > anyway. Use of it or not won't affect directions most of the time, although > I know of a few specific cases where knowing the suffix can be important in > finding the right location (is your house 100 Concord Road Southeast or > Southwest?). > > The majority of the Tiger data doesn't include the suffix. > > So, how much should I worry about the missing suffixes? Should they be > included in the main name= tag? Or one of the other *name tags with the > unsuffixed name in the name= tag. > > Because most people don't use the suffix, on some roads I've put the > with-suffix name in the name= tag and the unsuffixed one in the short_name= > tag, but I'm wondering if I should continue to bother. > > -jack > > > -- > Typos courtesy of fancy auto-spell technology. > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > ___ Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Directional suffixes on roads: yes or no?
The FGDC doesn't make any reference to pre-directionals when used for a divided road (dual carriageway). The problem with these roads is addresses don't use the pre-directional, but road signs do. Here's one example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/295032159#map=16/41.0291/-73.7359 The address of the highlighted building is "333 Westchester Avenue". Along this divided street, the odd building numbers are on the south side and the even numbers are on the north. For divided highways, one may see a directional modifier on the signs, but on the map it's never included, or if it is included, is done through super relations. I.e., I-84 contains two relations, one is I-84 Eastbound and the other I-84 Westbound. The contains way's whose role is east/west, but are named I-84. For divided roads, it seems it's best to put the directional modifier in the relation's role and omit it from the name. On Mon Dec 01 2014 at 12:56:30 AM Elliott Plack wrote: > Jack, > > Good question. I come from a local government geographer perspective. I > feel that the data should be as authoritative and official as possible with > regard to naming. It's simple for a computer algorithm to abbreviate, > ignore or omit information, but quite difficult to synthesize missing > information. > > The directional suffix you refer to is officially called a post > directional. The Federal Geographic Data Committee definition is, "A word > following the street name that indicates the directional taken by the > thoroughfare from an arbitrary starting point, or the sector where it is > located." See section 1.7.2.6 > http://www.fgdc.gov/standards/projects/FGDC-standards-projects/street-address/05-11.2ndDraft.CompleteDoc.pdf > > When you say that most people don't refer to it as such, that can > definitely pose a challenge to cartographers. My opinion is to use the full > name with the post directional and let map data users (or humans) choose > what to ignore. > > Kindly, > > Elliott > On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 23:41 Jack Burke wrote: > >> Howdy, >> >> I have a question about how much effort should be put into adding >> directional suffixes to road names. >> >> Many counties around Atlanta have adopted directional suffixes for roads, >> both in incorporated areas as well as outside city limits. Usually all >> areas in the county use the same system, with directions denoted NE, SE, NW >> and SW from some standard point, although some cities tend to ignore the >> suffixes. Also, signage is inconsistent--some street signs bear the suffix >> while others on the same street don't. >> >> In most cases, the suffix is immaterial, and most people don't use it >> anyway. Use of it or not won't affect directions most of the time, although >> I know of a few specific cases where knowing the suffix can be important in >> finding the right location (is your house 100 Concord Road Southeast or >> Southwest?). >> >> The majority of the Tiger data doesn't include the suffix. >> >> So, how much should I worry about the missing suffixes? Should they be >> included in the main name= tag? Or one of the other *name tags with the >> unsuffixed name in the name= tag. >> >> Because most people don't use the suffix, on some roads I've put the >> with-suffix name in the name= tag and the unsuffixed one in the short_name= >> tag, but I'm wondering if I should continue to bother. >> >> -jack >> >> >> -- >> Typos courtesy of fancy auto-spell technology. >> ___ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
