Re: [Talk-us] How to get college students involved?

2010-08-10 Thread Brian Fischer
I teach a Web Mapping class at a University and have been thinking of having a 
lesson on crowd sourcing and geowiki stuff.  I figure it might be a good way to 
introduce students to OpenStreetmap.  Is anyone aware of class lessons or 
exercises that have been developed for OpenStreetmap?

Brian Fischer, CFM  GIS Project Manager
Houston Engineering, Inc.
Phone: Direct: 763-493-6664 / W: 763.493.4522 / M: 763.229.2734

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   1. Re: How to get college students involved? (David Fawcett)
   2. Re: Directional Prefix/Postfix Proposal (take 2) (Kevin Atkinson)
   3. OSM US election update (Richard Welty)


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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 08:58:10 -0500
From: David Fawcett 
To: Sarah Manley 
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It would be cool to create a wiki page with ideas, resources, tips, and tricks 
for campus mapping.  The page could include links to past efforts.

David.

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Sarah Manley  wrote:
> Hi Stefan,
> I did some work with students back when I was with cloudmade. There 
> are a few details here:?http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Education
> I can pass along the power points I made if you like (although they 
> are about a year out of date now). Just let me know. If anyone else 
> wants them, I can also try and get them up on the wiki, or am happy 
> for someone else to host them.
> Cheers,
> Sarah
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>> ?Hi. The following may be outside your time and interest scope, but I 
>> am interested in hearing from anybody who is willing to nibble on my 
>> requests. I have never actually done any mapping work, but joined 
>> this list and lurked with the hope of starting to learn about the 
>> tools and issues.
>>
>> I teach computer science at a university about half way between 
>> Indianapolis and Ft. Wayne. I would love to have someone show us how 
>> to get involved mapping precise data locally and submitting it to 
>> various online data sets, or working on software that is helpful to 
>> OSM and others. We have students who need senior projects, and also 
>> run the occasional special topics class.
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>> If anybody is interested, I would like to start a dialog, or at least 
>> get some pointers to the right direction.
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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:05:34 -0600 (MDT)
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I went ahead and wrote up a proposal at:
   
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Directional_Prefix_%26_Suffix_Indication

I also notice that some people are removing the directional prefixes _without_ 
storing the information in another tag.  See:
   http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5367209

So I thi

Re: [Talk-us] Talk-us Digest, Vol 32, Issue 32

2010-07-29 Thread Brian Fischer
Hi All,
Just thought I would throw my 2cents in.  I am pretty new to OSM and have just 
recently started editing some roads in MN. In getting started I really 
struggled with tag roads and was mainly focusing on tagging them so they would 
display nice and label properly in the mapnik renderer.  In starting to get my 
feet wet I been looking into whether I could leverage the data in my web 
applications to create a road basemap.  I am on the fence on whether we can use 
it or not.  The biggest reason I have not jumped into using it at this point is 
because of the in ability to render nice consistent road labels (specifically 
highway and county road shields) like you see in Google and Bing maps.  If I 
could do this I would have jump right in and started using the OSM data, but 
the way it stands now would take a fair amount of work to revise tags to make a 
nice basemap.

I would not overlook the importance of users ultimately just wanting to use the 
data to easily make a nice road map that includes highway shields as labels.  
You all know way more about the history of the OSM data than me but I thought I 
would give you the perspective from an outside person looking and evaluating 
whether OSM data could be used as a replacement for a nice looking road 
basemap.  I'll be looking forward to seeing the final US roadway classification 
guidelines and will likely help me determine if OSM data is a good fit to 
renderer basemaps for my web applications.  I hope there is some considerations 
for rendering (specifically highway shields).

This is all very interesting discussions and I'm curious to see where it goes.

Brian Fischer, CFM  GIS Project Manager
Houston Engineering, Inc.
Phone: Direct: 763-493-6664 / W: 763.493.4522 / M: 763.229.2734


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   2. Re: United States Roadway Classification Guidelines
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   3. Re: United States Roadway Classification Guidelines (Jim McAndrew)
   4. Re: United States Roadway Classification Guidelines
  (Brad Neuhauser)


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> Can you show me an area of the US that's tagged completely objectively?

For example: Interstate 99 near Altoona, PA is coded (AFAIK appropriately) a 
motorway. Over the entire length of the Interstate, it looks like it serves a 
max average daily traffic of 37,000 vehicles per day 
(http://www.interstate-guide.com/i-099.html), which is equivalent to many 
"primary" roads.

Given this volume, it is reasonable to imagine Interstate 99 was never built. 
Instead there is a four lane, at-grade highway. The road would still serve the 
same interregional travel purpose in the area network. It could have the same 
traffic volume. But it wouldn't be a motorway.

Interstate 99 doesn't share other qualities of Interstates (traffic volume, 
Interstate Travel, connecting large cities) Therefore, the current 
classification of motorway is based on the physical quality of the road.

I've also been on ridiculously under-designed two lane roads in the 
Philadelphia and other Northeastern suburbs that carry large loads of commuter 
traffic. They function as primary or secondary roads, but they aren't built 
like the ones in my area and should not be classified the same way. If they 
code it as such, it will only serve to alienate visitors.

This is the North Bethlehem Pike north of Philadelphia. 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=12336821 It is coded as a primary road.

This is Bass Lake Road west of Minneapolis. 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=41442915 It is coded as secondary.

I'll let you dig up what the roads look like with whatever tools you're 
comfortable with. But the way