Re: [Talk-us] FBI using OSM on website... without attribution

[Joseph R. Justice]

ht be possible to get someone's help this
>way, since it's their own website. (Although the reporting methods I found
>went to other offices, not obviously directly to the FBI.)
>
> I won't be following up on these in the foreseeable future, but if someone
> else does follow up, please let us all know what happens.
>
> David
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> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Joseph R. Justice <jayare...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Mike Thompson <miketh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us /field-offices/denver
> <https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/denver>
>
> See map in upper right part of page
>
>
> Does either the page for the Denver field office, and/or the nation-wide
> field office locator referred to in a separate post in this thread, include
> a "Contact the Webmaster" sort of link?  Or even just a "Contact Us" link?
> Those would be a first obvious point of contact, I'd think...
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Re: [Talk-us] FBI using OSM on website... without attribution

[Joseph R. Justice]

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Mike Thompson  wrote:

https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/denver
>
> See map in upper right part of page
>

Does either the page for the Denver field office, and/or the nation-wide
field office locator referred to in a separate post in this thread, include
a "Contact the Webmaster" sort of link?  Or even just a "Contact Us" link?
Those would be a first obvious point of contact, I'd think...



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[Talk-us] Field Papers web app source code hosted at GitHub currently subject to DMCA takedown and not accessible

[Joseph R. Justice]

[Intentionally posted to both talk@ and talk-us@.  -- J]

I just now happened to try to access my personal fork of the repository for
the source code for the Field Papers (http://fieldpapers.org/) web app site
(said repository of source code can usually be found at
https://github.com/stamen/fieldpapers), only to find that the fork was
currently not accessible due to a DMCA takedown, apparently related to the
presence of font data originally created by Monotype Corporation and/or
related companies and organizations.

Because of this DMCA takedown, the master repository of the source for
Field Papers, my personal fork of it, and the repository for the source of
the software Field Papers was derived from are all currently inaccessible
at GitHub.  (Many other things unrelated to Field Papers or OSM in general
are also being affected by this.)

Information about the DMCA takedown and what is affected by it, and what
the takedown is complaining about, can be found at
https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2014-08-27-Monotype-Imaging.md .

Does Stamen Design (as the organization responsible for creating and
presumably maintaining the Field Papers web app at http://fieldpapers.org/
and the software behind the web app) know about this yet?  Are they doing
something about it?  I wouldn't be surprised if the DMCA takedown is
extended to the web app site itself at some point, if something isn't done
about this.

I have taken the liberty of CCing Stamen Design at i...@stamen.com with
this letter, to make sure they are aware of what's going on (especially if
they are not yet aware of it).

Thank you for giving me a moment of your time.  I hope you find this of
some use, interest.  I look forward to learning more about this situation
as it develops and is (hopefully) resolved in a desirable fashion in the
near future.

Joseph



PS: I still cannot access my own attempt at an account at the Field Papers
web app site, but that's not relevant to the issue here.  If I ever get off
my lazy butt and write some patches to their code for the site to fix this
sort of thing (which is why I'd created a fork in the first place), then
I'd be able to get at my account w/o needing them to do something.
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Re: [Talk-us] Field Papers web app source code hosted at GitHub currently subject to DMCA takedown and not accessible

[Joseph R. Justice]

[The following is forwarded to the lists on behalf of Mr. Fitzsimmons at
his request.  Apparently, his initial attempt to respond to my message to
talk@ and talk-us@ was bounced and/or held for moderation because he does
not subscribe to the lists.  I'd like to emphasize that his response was
sent some 40 minutes after my original message went out; Stamen Design did
respond quickly once notified.  -- J]



-- Forwarded message --
From: Seth Fitzsimmons s...@stamen.com
Date: Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: Field Papers web app source code hosted at GitHub currently
subject to DMCA takedown and not accessible
To: jayare...@gmail.com
Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org, t...@openstreetmap.org, jayare...@gmail.com,
e...@stamen.com


We did not know about this; thank you for making us aware.  Apparently DMCA
takedowns don't result in corresponding email notifications.

Here's what we're planning on doing:

* Eric Gelinas (cc'd) has contacted GitHub about getting the repository
reinstated so that we can push up a sanitized version and have the takedown
taken down. Hopefully this will be straightforward; if not, we may have to
get our lawyer involved and file a counter-notice to the effect that we're
no longer infringing.
* Eric is in the process of removing the offending content (Helvetica,
ironically enough) from the repo.
* I'm letting Mike Migurski know, as his walkingpapers repo is the parent,
and there may be complications associated with fieldpapers being a fork.

This is what it means for users of the repo / forks:

* You'll need to re-clone stamen/fieldpapers, as none of the commit IDs
will line up after sanitization.

This is what it means for users of Field Papers:

* Nothing. The offending content is not accessible via the web site, so
there's no justification for a DMCA takedown of Field Papers itself.

Thanks for your understanding.

seth


On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Joseph R. Justice jayare...@gmail.com
wrote:

[Intentionally posted to both talk@ and talk-us@.  -- J]

 I just now happened to try to access my personal fork of the repository
 for the source code for the Field Papers (http://fieldpapers.org/) web
 app site (said repository of source code can usually be found at
 https://github.com/stamen/fieldpapers), only to find that the fork was
 currently not accessible due to a DMCA takedown, apparently related to the
 presence of font data originally created by Monotype Corporation and/or
 related companies and organizations.

 Because of this DMCA takedown, the master repository of the source for
 Field Papers, my personal fork of it, and the repository for the source of
 the software Field Papers was derived from are all currently inaccessible
 at GitHub.  (Many other things unrelated to Field Papers or OSM in general
 are also being affected by this.)

 Information about the DMCA takedown and what is affected by it, and what
 the takedown is complaining about, can be found at
 https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2014-08-27-Monotype-Imaging.md
 .

 Does Stamen Design (as the organization responsible for creating and
 presumably maintaining the Field Papers web app at http://fieldpapers.org/
 and the software behind the web app) know about this yet?  Are they doing
 something about it?  I wouldn't be surprised if the DMCA takedown is
 extended to the web app site itself at some point, if something isn't done
 about this.

 I have taken the liberty of CCing Stamen Design at i...@stamen.com with
 this letter, to make sure they are aware of what's going on (especially if
 they are not yet aware of it).

 Thank you for giving me a moment of your time.  I hope you find this of
 some use, interest.  I look forward to learning more about this situation
 as it develops and is (hopefully) resolved in a desirable fashion in the
 near future.

 Joseph



 PS: I still cannot access my own attempt at an account at the Field Papers
 web app site, but that's not relevant to the issue here.  If I ever get off
 my lazy butt and write some patches to their code for the site to fix this
 sort of thing (which is why I'd created a fork in the first place), then
 I'd be able to get at my account w/o needing them to do something.

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Re: [Talk-us] [Resend] Contact / support address for fieldpapers.org?

[Joseph R. Justice]

On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Joseph R. Justice jayare...@gmail.comwrote:

[I sent a copy of this message on 23 Dec 2013, e.g. right before the
 holidays, with no response.  I am attempting one resend of it, now that the
 Talk-US list shows activity again, before trying elsewhere.  Note: I am
 *also* going to resend the message I sent to Stamen Design, on the off
 chance that it was overlooked there due to the holidays.  -- J]


For the record, I got an almost immediate response from Eric Rodenbeck at
Stamen Design to my resend to them; he says they are still closed for the
holidays, but will look into this once they have reopened next week.

I think this is perfectly reasonable and acceptable, and I'm happy to wait
to give them a chance to look into it, since I know they are now aware of
the issue.  I'll ping here again if it seems necessary, but for now it's
certainly not.

Thanks for y'all's help, and specifically to Steve Coast who responded
privately with an offer of help.



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Re: [Talk-us] Currently available good GPS for use with OSM mapping in the USA?

[Joseph R. Justice]

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Joseph R. Justice jayare...@gmail.comwrote:

I see the eTrex 30 currently for $219 (down from $299) as a Black Friday
 special direct from Garmin, and for $199 from GPSCity.  (And the 199 price
 is the same as Garmin retail for the eTrex 20, tho I'm sure GPSCity's price
 for that one is less than Garmin's also.)  Online web shopping doesn't show
 me any cheaper prices, so...  And GPSCity has the recommended Garmin case
 for it available for less also, and free shipping, so...


For anyone curious, I ended up going for the Garmin eTrex 30 *plus also*
the Garmin GLO, plus accessories (cases and belt clips and the like), from
GPSCity.  Basically, I got the two main items from GPSCity for the same
price as Garmin's normal list retail for just the eTrex 30 by itself.  And,
that was still within / at the upper limit I'd originally set for what I
was thinking about spending.  I dithered about it for a little while, but
decided that this way I would have a dedicated GPS device capable of
communicating with Android devices if after getting some experience I
decided that was the better way to go.

It took them a few days to ship, because one of the items I ordered was
backordered, but it was finally shipped today and I should receive it on
Dec 9.  Yay.



Again, thanks for all the responses.


Ibid.



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Re: [Talk-us] Currently available good GPS for use with OSM mapping in the USA?

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First off, I'd like to thank all the people who responded to my original
message.  I truly do appreciate the time and effort you took to respond to
my inquiry.

I looked at the following items mentioned in the set of responses: The
Garmin eTrex series (most specifically the 30; if one is going to get it,
might as well get the best one available); the Columbus V-900 (and V-990);
the AMOD AGL3080; the iBlue 747proS someone sent an Amazon link to.

I skipped the other Garmin units mentioned (GPSMAP 62 et al) due to the
lack of GLONASS support; I figure if you're going to get a GPS unit you
might as well get one supporting all the currently available networks.  I
skipped the Blackvue DR500-GW as being a dash camera which isn't the type
of thing I'm looking for at all.

The AMOD and iBlue seem too basic; I could only use them to upload data to
my PC since they don't seem to have Bluetooth to communicate with Android
devices.   No display or anything so I can't really use them as a
standalone device except purely to record data.

The Columbus units seem to be somewhat interesting.  The 900 one at least
has Bluetooth (the manufacturer's pages for the 990 don't mention it, at
least that I can find).  However, I'm a little put off by what some people
wrote about their relative lack of accuracy; I figure if I'm getting a GPS
for the purpose of using it for OSM, accuracy is a significant
consideration.

The major lack to the eTrex 30 is that it doesn't appear to have Bluetooth,
so I don't think I can use it directly with my Android devices.  (I'm not
sure what Unit-to-unit transfer (shares data wirelessly with similar
units) means, tho I *think* it might be something called ANT+, see
www.thisisant.com for more information.  There do seem to be USB ANT+
adapters, but I'm not sure they would do what I want to do with my Android
devices; it would need more research.)  However, I suppose I could always
get another device, such as a Garmin GLO or equivalent, to do that.  And, I
*can* use it as a stand-alone device at least, it has a display and all, so
I guess it's not critical if it cannot talk with my Android devices.

The other units non- eTrex units Garmin currently has with GLONASS support
(Monterra, Oregon 600, 600t, 650, 650t) are all substantially more
expensive than any of the eTrex units, so I think they're out of my budget.

I see the eTrex 30 currently for $219 (down from $299) as a Black Friday
special direct from Garmin, and for $199 from GPSCity.  (And the 199 price
is the same as Garmin retail for the eTrex 20, tho I'm sure GPSCity's price
for that one is less than Garmin's also.)  Online web shopping doesn't show
me any cheaper prices, so...  And GPSCity has the recommended Garmin case
for it available for less also, and free shipping, so...

Again, thanks for all the responses.



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[Talk-us] Currently available good GPS for use with OSM mapping in the USA?

[Joseph R. Justice]

[I am subscribed to Talk-US and will see responses to this message sent to
that list.  -- J]

So, I've been thinking about getting involved with OSM, particularly in
terms of improving the map in the area I live in (Fort Lauderdale, FL,
USA).  Looking through the wiki, the Beginner's Guide, and all of that, it
seems like one of the most popular and useful ways to do that is to collect
and upload GPS traces.  That's something I can do on the ground in my area,
and at a pretty detailed level because I'd be doing it on foot.

I have several Android devices that contain GPS functionality.  (Currently,
I have and actively use a Google Nexus 7 (2013 ed) tablet and a Samsung
Galaxy S II on the Virgin Mobile USA (Sprint) network, and less often a
Toshiba Thrive 10 tablet; I have a couple of other devices that are not
currently working.)  However, I'm thinking that their capability to make
accurate and precise GPS measurements might not be as good as that of a
dedicated GPS device.  Also, I understand that having GPS signal reception
separated from that of the other functionality of a Android device will
help improve the battery life of the Android device.

Therefore, I am thinking about getting some sort of GPS receiver, either a
standalone one and / or one that can communicate via Bluetooth to my
Android devices.  However, I do not have any experience with dedicated GPS
devices per se.

To that end, I am wondering if anyone here would wish to offer suggestions
on GPS devices that are currently available in the US which I should
consider.  I have been doing some research, but there's a lot of
possibilities out there, both well-known name brands with lots of
advertising and not so well known brands, and like I said I do not have
personal experience with this sort of thing.

I was originally considering getting just a pure receiver, with no display
capability and perhaps not even any logging capability, e.g. something that
would simply receive and process a GPS signal and relay the results (e.g.
coordinates, etc) via Bluetooth to an Android device, which would then be
responsible for everything else.  However, I've subsequently considered
that having a GPS device which could be useful by itself without needing
anything else might be more useful in general, even if it costs somewhat
more.  So, I am not restricting myself to considering just GPS
receiver-only or receiver-plus-logging-only devices.

I'm pretty sure that even if I get a device capable of working as a
standalone device, that I would want it to be able to communicate with my
Android devices, so I'll probably want Bluetooth (or possibly WiFi but I
suspect that is more costly and power-hungry) no matter what.  I'll
probably want USB *if* I get a device capable of making an internal log, so
I can easily transfer data to my PCs.  (I don't know that it makes sense or
is even feasible to try to connect a GPS device to my Android devices via
USB.)

I'll probably want something capable of receiving signals both from the US
and Russian (GLONASS) GPS systems, since they're both available and it
looks like using GLONASS can help provide a more precise location fix.  (I
assume devices capable of receiving signals from the forthcoming European
and Chinese systems are not yet available.)

I'll probably want something capable of receiving whatever publicly- and
freely-available GPS augmentation / refinement signals are available.  (I
know about WAAS run by the FAA, and I think there's also something run by
the Coast Guard; I'm not sure if there's anything else in the US that's
freely available.)

It looks like that, at least to an extent, the more channels the better.

In general, I'll probably want something that is as accurate and precise as
is feasibly affordable for and available to a non-professional working
alone.  (I've seen that there's very precise professional survey-grade
equipment out there, but it's probably way beyond anything I'd be willing
to pay at this time.  Likewise, a lot of the pro stuff appears to call for
a base station unit and a rover unit, which would realistically require a
minimum of two people; I'm going to be doing this by myself.  However, if
I'm going to do this, I want to generate the best data that is feasible for
me to collect.)

If I get a device capable of displaying information / position on a map
and/or navigation information, I suppose I would ideally like a device
capable of using OSM information if it is not too much more expensive;
however, I don't know that this desire is as strong as a probably want.

I don't think I need a device that's capable of being a camera also; if I
want that, I'd be more likely to just get a separate camera (tho perhaps a
camera that can be synched to the GPS device somehow).

I am not particularly into geocaching or like activities at this time, or
hiking, hunting, fishing, or similar outdoor activities.  However, I might
try out geocaching at some point.  I don't think I need a device that is