Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] OSM User Testing

[Thea Clay]

Hi Ya'll,
There is a mapping party in North Carolina this weekend. We'll have plenty of 
first time users that will likely be willing to have their experience 
documented. I am bringing my video camera and will record their experience (if 
they agree) since I probably won't make the SF event.


Best,
Thea Clay
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Re: [Talk-us] Community Involvement

[Thea Clay]

I totally agree with the idea of a group working together on improving how-to 
documents and the beginners guide. I would love to help since I volunteered to 
work on this project at SOTM in Girona.

 I have been working on a few general guides and tutorials for new mappers, how 
to's for hosting events and video tutorials for editing with Mapzen. Most of 
the documents are specific to outreach projects I've been working but they 
could very easily be made more universal. --- And of course getting easy to 
understand tutorials for the two most popular editors (JOSM and Potlatch) are 
probably the most important tools for a newbie. Mine are pitiful so say the 
least.

After spending a week or so combing through the wiki and other help docs I 
think there are quite a few very useful how to's already out there, they are 
just dispersed and could use revision. I would hate to throw the baby out with 
the bathwater. Maybe a good first step would be to gather all the material that 
has been created and fill in the gaps from there. I went ahead a created a wiki 
page so people who have documents already created can contribute them to the 
process and where the group can work on putting the new stuff together. Here is 
the link: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Draft_Documentation_and_Guides.

I personally feel that the group working on this should be as open as possible 
and that the document should not be 'locked'. Things change so quickly in OSM 
that I would hate to have outdated resources or put up barriers to people who 
want to contribute in this fashion. But that's just my opinion. I also have no 
attachment to using the wiki as our home base, it just seemed like the most 
inclusive and easiest way to proceed at this point.

It might also be nice to get some mappers from non-English speaking communities 
involved. I am sure there is great stuff out there written in German, French, 
et al.

Best,
Thea
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Thea Clay]

I agree with Steve and Kate. I think the making of openstreetmap.us should be 
lead by the community, not the board. I'm happy to help. But Steve is right 
that anyone should be able to JFDI since it's a tool for the community not the 
board :)
-Thea
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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Thea Clay]

Agreed. I don't see why Canadians can't get involved/use the site too. The more 
the merrier :)
Best,
Thea
On 4/30/10 12:01 PM, "Richard Weait"  wrote:

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Ian Dees  wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Thea Clay  wrote:
>>
>> If I remember correctly we have donated servers re Ian and SteveC has the
>> domain openstreetmap.us (
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-us@openstreetmap.org/msg02623.html). That
>> way we can serve the needs of current members b I don't see why Canada can't 
>> get involved too. The more the merrier :) ut also have an engaging
>> centralized place were newbies can go to find resources, connect with other
>> mappers in their area or, if there are no other mappers nearby, start the
>> local community themselves.
>>
>> I think all we are missing are people to help design and populate the
>> site. Is anyone interested in teaming up to get this done?
>>
>
> Steve pointed the domain to the servers a few weeks ago and Apache is
> sitting ready to go. If anyone has any ideas we can get something going
> fairly quickly. I'd be happy to help on the technical side if someone is
> willing to work on the design/content side.

Any objection to Canadian use, or must every community reinvent this wheel?

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Re: [Talk-us] US meetups?

[Thea Clay]

Hi,
Here are some more OSM related sites I'm connected with. CloudMade repays me 
for the meetup.com fees.
Austin, TX: http://www.meetup.com/Austin-OpenStreetMappers/ and 
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=358884127712
Dallas, TX: http://www.meetup.com/Dallas-OpenStreetMappers/
San Antonio, TX: http://www.meetup.com/San-Antonio-OpenStreetMappers/
Alabama: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=220585289228
Georgia: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=135720612308

I agree that the cost of Meetup.com is a burden to organizers. The reason I 
have continued to use it is because frankly its hard to organize events and 
provide a palatable social networking platform for group members to easily stay 
in touch between events/work on long term projects using only the wiki and 
talk-us.

Some of the Meetup groups I organize have switched over to Facebook because a 
majority of the mappers are already using the service, its super easy to do and 
free. I personally really like the concept of the MappingDC page 
(www.mappingdc.org) but I think in general setting up and running a standalone 
site for each local group is both a burden to organizers and not scalable.

My base level concern with all of these sites is that they are not really 
connected with OSM proper or each other.  Having local OSM groups on so many 
sites is fine in theory and I don't want to micromanage by advocating people 
must use X site. I think communities should be free to self-organize any 
way they want. But logistically it becomes very hard to get groups talking with 
each other or the larger OSM community when they are scattered.  Communication 
between groups early on is important because often new/potenial organizers are 
unaware of all the resources and experience found in the existing community. I 
get the sense that groups are forming on these outside sites mainly out of 
necessity rather than inherent preference of one over the other. As interest in 
organizing city level groups for more coordinated mapping grows I think OSM-US 
could possibly provide this essential service to community members in a free 
and OSM-centric environment.

Personally I agree with Ian's idea. I would love to see an OSM-US site like the 
one in Germany ( http://www.openstreetmap.de/) that would have city level pages 
similar to MappingDC. If I remember correctly we have donated servers re Ian 
and SteveC has the domain openstreetmap.us ( 
http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-us@openstreetmap.org/msg02623.html). That way 
we can serve the needs of current members but also have an engaging centralized 
place were newbies can go to find resources, connect with other mappers in 
their area or, if there are no other mappers nearby, start the local community 
themselves.

I think all we are missing are people to help design and populate the site. Is 
anyone interested in teaming up to get this done?

Best,
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[Talk-us] US SOTM Announcement and Call for Papers

[Thea Clay]

U.S. State of the Map National Conference: Call for Papers


The OpenStreetMap-US National Chapter is proud to announce the first annual 
U.S. State of the Map Conference will be held August 14-15, 2010 in Atlanta, 
Georgia. This fun-filled and informative two day event will showcase 
presentations from some of the best and brightest members of the US OSM 
community and provide a platform to introduce the world's largest online 
collaborative open geodata project to a larger American audience.

Location
The conference will be held at the Georgia World Congress Center 
(http://www.gwcc.com/), located in the heart of Atlanta, Georgia; directly 
across the street from CNN World Headquarters and the Georgia Aquarium.

Call for Papers
OpenStreetMap-US invites submissions from mappers, academics, policy makers, 
developers, geo-hackers, business leaders and open geodata supporters around 
the country. So, if you are involved in OpenStreetMap as a mapper, developer, 
community organizer - or if you use OSM in your business, research or other 
projects, we encourage you to submit your presentation. Submission is open to 
everyone in the community, no matter how new you are to the project.

Key Contacts
If you would like to submit a paper, please contact US-SOTM Speaker Committee 
chairwoman Kate Chapman at pap...@maploser.com
Please note that the email for paper submissions will change as the State of 
the Map US website (http://stateofthemap.us/ ) is completed. A notice will be 
posted to the talk-us list when that change occurs, likely towards the later 
part of this week.

For More Information
To find out more information about the US State of the Map Conference, please 
visit us at 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_States/US_SOTM 
 or 
http://stateofthemap.us/

To Get Involved
And, as always, if you are interested in helping plan the event, secure 
sponsors, pick speakers or just want to find out more about how things are 
shaping up, please join us on our weekly conference calls. These calls are 
completely open. The call in details can be found on the wiki page listed above.

We look forward to seeing everyone in Atlanta, Georgia this August! Here's to 
making our inaugural national OSM conference a success and the first of many 
more to come.

Cheers,

The US State of the Map Planning Committee
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[Talk-us] New US local chapter draft agreement now on wiki

[Thea Clay]

Hi Everyone,
I posted the latest draft (v0.3) of the OSMF Local Chapter Agreement to the US 
Chapter wiki page so we can better track changes and incorporate suggestions 
made by US community members. It appears that many of the suggestions made on 
the Local Chapters mailing list and conference calls were not included in v0.3 
so this is a great opportunity to reiterate your vision for OSM-US. I want to 
encourage everyone to take a look at it, add comments, make suggestions for 
alternate wording and/or add sections you feel should be included.

Note: This version of the Chapter Agreement is intended to be written from the 
perspective of the US community. These suggestions will then be submitted to 
the OSMF Local Chapter Working Group for possible incorporation into the master 
draft they maintain. The original document can be found at: 
http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ASP0Iaqh9aCnZGZwZGhteGtfMjBnMjNkazR6ZA&hl=en_GB&invite=CLnpweIH

If you would like to be involved in the process of creating the US Local 
Chapter, please join us on our weekly calls. The call in details are listed 
here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States

It is also a good idea for everyone interested in Local Chapters to follow the 
Local Chapter mailing list. To follow, sign-up here: 
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/local-chapters

Best,
Thea Clay
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Re: [Talk-us] Conflicts of Interest

[Thea Clay]

Hi,
I currently work as a Community Ambassador at CloudMade. As a Community 
Ambassador I spend a majority of my time helping communities organize mapping 
events and working with non-profit organizations to help them utilize OSM as a 
tool to increase education about open geodata and geospatial education in 
general. More information about me, the company I work for and my position can 
be found on my user page at : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Thea_Clay

In the interest of openness I think it is important to note that I am running 
for the OSM-US board as an individual, not as a CloudMade employee or as part 
of my duties as a Community Ambassador. I work on the OSM-US local chapter in 
my free time and do not in anyway represent the views or interests of the 
company in this capacity.

Best,
Thea Clay

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   2. Re: Conflicts of Interest (Richard Welty)
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   4. Re: Conflicts of Interest (Ian Dees)
   5. Re: Conflicts of Interest (Serge Wroclawski)
   6. SCALE OpenStreetMap booth in LA next weekend (SteveC)
   7. Re: Conflicts of Interest (Steven Johnson)
   8. Re: US Chapter temporary Board Nomination (Dane Springmeyer)
   9. Re: Conflicts of Interest (Adam Schreiber)


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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:29:48 -0700
From: SteveC 
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Hi

One of the things we found at the OSMF is that you really need to be open about 
any potential conflicts of interest, like where you work or if you hold shares 
in TeleAtlas... that kind of thing. Anything a reasonable outsider could 
conclude is a potential conflict.

I think that for your own good so it's not a surprise to people, all those 
running for the board of OSMF-US should be upfront about it. I don't think 
there's any shame in it, but I can tell you from experience that people get 
very upset if you're not clear about everything from day 1.

Yours &c.

Steve


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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:37:18 -0500
From: Richard Welty 
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Conflicts of Interest
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On 2/12/10 11:29 AM, SteveC wrote:
> Hi
>
> One of the things we found at the OSMF is that you really need to be open 
> about any potential conflicts of interest, like where you work or if you hold 
> shares in TeleAtlas... that kind of thing. Anything a reasonable outsider 
> could conclude is a potential conflict.
>
> I think that for your own good so it's not a surprise to people, all those 
> running for the board of OSMF-US should be upfront about it. I don't think 
> there's any shame in it, but I can tell you from experience that people get 
> very upset if you're not clear about everything from day 1.
>
i'm willing to start. i have no affiliations in the industry at the
present time,
just an IT consultant who is out looking for a full time gig, and working on
a startup which will have little to do with mapping.

richard




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Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:42:51 -0500
From: Kate Chapman 
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Conflicts of Interest
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Hey All,

I'm usually pretty up front about the fact that I work for FortiusOne.
 It was an oversight with announcing my acceptance that I didn't
mention it.

FortiusOne uses OSM tiles on our public site http://www.geocommons.com
as well as the appliances.  I personally maintain an open source
geocoder as part of my job which I would love to be able to put OSM
address data in at some point (when there is better US coverage).  The
local DC OSM group meets occasionally in the FortiusOne office, since
the space is free and available.

-Kate




On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:29 AM, SteveC  wrote:
> Hi
>
> One of the things we found at the OSMF is that you really need to be open 
> about any potential con

Re: [Talk-us] US Chapter temporary Board Nomination

[Thea Clay]

Hi,
I'll officially throw my hat in as well. I accept the nomination to run for the 
temporary board of the U.S. Chapter of OSM.

I have been active in OpenStreetMap for about a year. A majority of my work has 
been focused on planning mapping events, building community partnerships and 
encouraging OSM contributions/use by organizations throughout the US. This 
includes (among other things) organizing and running the Atlanta Mapathon last 
October, the Austin, Texas Mapathon (coming in Spring 2010), developing a 
mapping program for 4-H's Science, Engineering, and Technology Project, 
developing a mapping program for the Georgia Public Library System that 
includes librarian training and GPS checkout, and of course mapping my 
neighborhood and hometown. I am also a regular participant in the conference 
calls for both the OSM US Local Chapter Working Group and the US SOTM Planning 
Committee.

Outside of OSM, I have experience managing the creation and incorporation of 
non-governmental organizations, writing (successful) non-profit funding and 
grant proposals and acting as an organizational liaison to public and private 
partners. If elected to the temporary board there are three primary areas where 
I feel my skills could benefit the US Chapter:
1.) Building an open, responsive and efficient organizational structure that 
can guide the chapter through the process of incorporation, full-term board 
elections and first national conference.
2.) Working in conjunction with the OSMF to establish a mutually beneficial 
Chapter Agreement that both preserves the goals, bylaws and core values of OSM 
and respects the 'spirit of the laws' of each locality.
3.) Creating a sustainable funding strategy for the US OSM Chapter/securing 
initial donations to support the organization through incorporation and the 
first year of operation.

Thank you for your consideration.

Best,
Thea Clay


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[Talk-us] Correct location of OSMF SOTM 2010

[Thea Clay]

Hi all,
I checked the wiki and the OSMF's SOTM will be held July 9th- 11th, 2010 in 
Girona Spain. This city is northeast of Barcelona. It is often also spelled 
Gerona, Spain.

I just wanted to pass that on as I saw Girona, Spain may be being confused for 
Genoa, Italy.

Here is a link to the wiki page where all the details are posted:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sotm_2010

I hope to see you all there!

Best,
Thea
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Re: [Talk-us] Vegetation/landuse import

[Thea Clay]

Ian,
I totally agree that the import I referenced is not perfect. I really just 
wanted to show a place that had already completed an import for reference. The 
points you bring up are very relevant and you were not belittling the effort in 
the least :) If nothing else we have an example to improve upon. That 
particular import was done some time ago and a lot has changed on the ground 
and the dataset is low resolution.

Do you have any recommendations for how we might fix it?
Best,
Thea


On 12/3/09 11:08 AM, "Ian Dees"  wrote:

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Thea Clay  wrote:
Hi guys,
I am so excited that more land use imports are in the works. They make such a 
huge visual difference. Check out the border between a state with the import 
complete and one without: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=34.896&lon=-85.408&zoom=9&layers=B000FTF

Although the lower-detail zooms might look marginally better (I would say 
they're way too cluttered right now...), the import was not done very well for 
two main reasons:

1. All of the areas were imported with overlapping edges. This means there is 
*tons* of duplicate information in the database. I learned my lesson with the 
counties import: overlapping edge imports like this should be broken apart and 
use relations for the borders.

2. The resolution of the landuse information is very low. If you zoom in and 
use Potlatch to see what the aerial images look like, you can see that in most 
cases the polygons don't come close to matching the actual landuse. in the 
future, we should make sure that imports are high-enough resolution to be 
useful in our datasets. 1:24k is the minimum and even that is not useful in 
some cases.

I'm not trying to belittle the effort, I just want to make sure we don't repeat 
the same mistakes on other huge imports like this.


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Re: [Talk-us] Vegetation/landuse import

[Thea Clay]

Hi guys,
I am so excited that more land use imports are in the works. They make such a 
huge visual difference. Check out the border between a state with the import 
complete and one without: 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=34.896&lon=-85.408&zoom=9&layers=B000FTF

The folks in Georgia completed their land use import a while back. You can view 
the dataset here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Georgia_(U.S._state). It 
is also listed on the Best of OSM site. The best way to get in touch with the 
importers if you have methodology questions is probably through the 
OpenStreetMap Georgia Facebook page: 
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=135720612308&ref=ts (since the GA-talk 
list was deleted).

Best,
Thea
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[Talk-us] Super Wal-Mart Tag

[Thea Clay]

Hi,
I have a random question... does anyone have suggestions for how I would 
correctly tag a Super Wal-Mart? I read through the wiki but there didn't appear 
to be a tag that fit.

The store in question has a 1.) a full grocery store with 
bakery/deli/produce/dry goods, 2.) a full service hair and nail salon, 3.) 
clothes and typical random household items, 4.) a pharmacy, 5.) a full service 
car lube and tire shop, 6.) an opthamologist and RX glasses shop, 7.) a garden 
center/nursery, 8.) a gas station and 9.) a Subway sandwich shop. All of these 
sub-stores are located within the same building and are part of Wal-Mart, not 
multiple stores located in a strip mall. Scary right :) Is this tagged as one 
store (which it is in reality) or multiple specialty shops?

To complicate matters, there is a difference between a Super Wal-Mart and 
regular Wal-Mart/Target/Big Box Store. And Super Wal-Marts all seem to have 
slightly different variations on the types of shops they have in each store.

Best, Thea
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Re: [Talk-us] Event Reminder: Atlanta, Georgia Mapathon Friday Event

[Thea Clay]

Hi Y'all,
I am so excited that the Atlanta Mapathon is finally here and generating so 
much interest!

To answer Mike's question, there will be a sponsored Meetup (with the Atlanta 
iPhone Developers group) at the Gordon Biersch Brewery in Buckhead on October 
16th at 6:00 PM. More information can be found here: 
http://www.meetup.com/atliphonedev/.

This event will be geared more towards developers and people looking to 
incorporate OSM into their apps etc. The mapping days are Saturday and Sunday 
but I encourage everyone in the area to come on Friday as well. If hearing how 
OSM will be used in the next cool new apps isn't motivation enough, there will 
be pizza and beer on Friday.

I hope to see you all there!

Best,
Thea Clay

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[Talk-us] Event Reminder: Atlanta, Georgia Mapathon

[Thea Clay]

Hi Everyone!

I wanted to send out a reminder to all the mappers around the Atlanta, Georgia 
area (and all the folks coming in from out of town) that the Atlanta Mapathon 
on October 16-18 is quickly approaching. Check out the wiki for all of the 
event details and locations. 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Atlanta_Citywide_Mapathon

The Mapathon Headquarters will be located on the 3rd floor of Central Library 
in the heart of historic downtown Atlanta. Central Library is going to be the 
best place to come if you are interested in mapping the historic sites, tourist 
attractions, shopping/restaurant districts and city parks that Downtown Atlanta 
is known for. The Atlanta-Fulton Public Library System has also generously 
provided space for us to meet in 10 other branches around Atlanta so community 
groups and neighborhood associations can map their communities. There will be 
plenty of work space and FREE WIFI at all the locations so bring your laptop! 
The Mapathon locations will be open from 12:00 - 5:00 PM on Saturday, 10/17 and 
2:00 - 6:00 PM on Sunday, 10/18.


This event is going to be a lot of fun. There is a ton of excitement about OSM 
and the Mapathon within the Atlanta area. We're expecting a great crowd made up 
of OSM members, non-profit groups, university clubs and local business 
associations, plus lots of newbies and people who are curious about the 
project. I hope to see many of you there as well!

Best,
Thea

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[Talk-us] Reminder: Atlanta Mapping Party September 12-13

[Thea Clay]

Hello fellow mappers!
I wanted to send everyone a reminder that the Atlanta, Georgia OSM community is 
having a mapping party this Saturday and Sunday. We will be mapping the area in 
and around Centennial Olympic Park on Saturday and Grant Park and Zoo Atlanta 
on Sunday. The event is shaping up to be fairly large and if our other mapping 
parties are any indication, we are going to have a lot of fun. Check out the 
wiki for all of the event details and to learn more about the projects we are 
working on in Georgia: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Atlanta

This event is the first in a series of mapping parties happening in Georgia 
throughout the remainder of the year. The mapping party this weekend is an 
introduction to OSM for a lot of community groups and municipal GIS departments 
who are helping the local mapping community make the map of Atlanta as good as 
some of the other major North American and Canadian cities. I want to encourage 
all the OSM mappers around the Atlanta area to attend because we have a ton of 
newbies coming and it would be great to have just as many experienced mappers 
there as well to show them the ropes.

We are also hosting a huge citywide Mapathon on October 16-18, 2009 to bring as 
many community groups and new mappers as possible together with the already 
awesome local OSM community to ramp up contributions to the Atlanta map and 
expand the base of mappers. These upcoming mapping events are very exciting for 
the mappers who have been working on the map of Georgia for quite some time 
now. Especially since our efforts are now being noticed by business 
associations, universities and established non-profit organizations who want to 
help us reach our goal of making the Atlanta map one of the best in the country.

I hope to see many of you there!

Best,
Thea Clay
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