Re: [Talk-us] Contacting local mappers or posting a note to "mappers in area". How to. Etiquette. Horseshoe Bend, ID,

[Bryce Nesbitt]

The Mozilla service is fine for general location requests, such as ensuring
you're searching the right area for Yelp!.

Actually mapping towers is much harder.  Many rural Verizon towers
broadcast correct latitude and longitude.  For the rest
there's no location data, or fake location data.  A single physical tower
may support 1-4 carriers, and then for each
carrier 3-36 distinct radio signals on various bands.  The OpenCell and
Mozilla databases, along with OpenSignal and Sensorly, are rife with bonus
towers that don't really exist, and they're often not even close to the
proper location.  Collected data may skew
outside the center of the tower's actual footprint, or the footprint may be
uneven due to terrain or antenna strength tuning by the carrier (many tower
coverage areas are asymmetric on purpose).

To point a cell repeater or booster correctly, you want the exact location
of the target tower. That's where https://www.cellmapper.net/ comes in. The
other tools don't cut it.



Now the question at hand was not about cell towers. but rather "is there a
way to contact or post a message seen by mappers active in a certain
region".  Is there anything out there?  Would the OSM project benefit from
having such a mechanism?




On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 10:39 PM, Tod Fitch  wrote:

> Mozilla Location services and open cell ID share data. You can down load
> the Mozilla database as a CSV file. That will have the lat/lon and
> identification of every cell tower they know about.
>
> You can also download it from open cell I'd but you need an api key for
> them.
>
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Re: [Talk-us] Contacting local mappers or posting a note to "mappers in area". How to. Etiquette. Horseshoe Bend, ID,

[Greg Morgan]

On Aug 25, 2017 10:39 PM, "Tod Fitch"  wrote:

Mozilla Location services and open cell ID share data. You can down load
the Mozilla database as a CSV file. That will have the lat/lon and
identification of every cell tower they know about.

You can also download it from open cell I'd but you need an api key for
them.


Todd that is real interesting. I also found this
https://www.mylnikov.org/archives/1059
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Re: [Talk-us] Contacting local mappers or posting a note to "mappers in area". How to. Etiquette. Horseshoe Bend, ID,

[Tod Fitch]

Mozilla Location services and open cell ID share data. You can down load the 
Mozilla database as a CSV file. That will have the lat/lon and identification 
of every cell tower they know about.

You can also download it from open cell I'd but you need an api key for them.


On August 25, 2017 10:19:41 PM PDT, Greg Morgan  wrote:
>On Aug 25, 2017 5:36 PM, "Bryce Nesbitt"  wrote:
>
>I know about map notes.
>
>Are there other ways I could post a bulletin message mappers in a given
>region might see and react to?
>
>Here it is not directly an OSM mapping task, so a map note seems
>inappropriate.
>But it's a task a local mapper would be perfect for, and it's no big
>deal.
>Is there such a mechanism?
>
>   -Bryce
>
>
>NB: In particular I'm hoping to find someone willing to verify if tower
>SID
>4881 of a certain Verizon cellular tower is coming from *Packer Joe
>Overlook* near *Horseshoe Bend, ID,* or if that tower ID is coming from
>above *Sweet, ID*.
>
>
>Keypad Mapper 3 collects cell tower information. It may be worth a look
>at
>their database to see if someone drove by that area with app on.  ID
>has
>some sparsely populated areas. Good luck on finding local mappers. It's
>worth a try.

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Re: [Talk-us] Contacting local mappers or posting a note to "mappers in area". How to. Etiquette. Horseshoe Bend, ID,

[Greg Morgan]

On Aug 25, 2017 5:36 PM, "Bryce Nesbitt"  wrote:

I know about map notes.

Are there other ways I could post a bulletin message mappers in a given
region might see and react to?

Here it is not directly an OSM mapping task, so a map note seems
inappropriate.
But it's a task a local mapper would be perfect for, and it's no big deal.
Is there such a mechanism?

   -Bryce


NB: In particular I'm hoping to find someone willing to verify if tower SID
4881 of a certain Verizon cellular tower is coming from *Packer Joe
Overlook* near *Horseshoe Bend, ID,* or if that tower ID is coming from
above *Sweet, ID*.


Keypad Mapper 3 collects cell tower information. It may be worth a look at
their database to see if someone drove by that area with app on.  ID has
some sparsely populated areas. Good luck on finding local mappers. It's
worth a try.
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[Talk-us] Contacting local mappers or posting a note to "mappers in area". How to. Etiquette. Horseshoe Bend, ID,

[Bryce Nesbitt]

I know about map notes.

Are there other ways I could post a bulletin message mappers in a given
region might see and react to?

Here it is not directly an OSM mapping task, so a map note seems
inappropriate.
But it's a task a local mapper would be perfect for, and it's no big deal.
Is there such a mechanism?

   -Bryce


NB: In particular I'm hoping to find someone willing to verify if tower SID
4881 of a certain Verizon cellular tower is coming from *Packer Joe
Overlook* near *Horseshoe Bend, ID,* or if that tower ID is coming from
above *Sweet, ID*.   It's a horribly specific request, but might be like
ten seconds for someone with
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cellmapper.net.cellmapper=en
(CellMapper ) or a similar tool.

Cell Mapper is a tool for locating cell phone towers for a variety of
purposes including tuning a cell repeater for weak signal areas.  OSM maps
are supported within the tool, but there's no data sharing with OSM that
I'm aware of.
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