Re: [Talk-us] County Road Tiles

2016-02-11 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Jack Burke  wrote:

> "Open to the public" is not the same thing as free from copyright
> restrictions
>

IANAL, however, after having looked into this subject before for other
projects, I do believe Washington's open records act is similar to Oregon's
sunshine law (possibly even modeled after it).  As such, in Washington
State, state-sourced data works the same way as federal data in regards to
availability and copyright provisions.  42.56 RCW is the applicable act; my
reading is this applies to all data generated by the state after January 1,
1973 (and found it amusing that records after that time had until June 1,
1990 to become publicly available, with no requirement for newer data to be
added to the public record until June 30, 1990, so in theory, there's a 28
day gap in the record).
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Re: [Talk-us] County Road Tiles

2016-02-11 Thread Jack Burke
"Open to the public" is not the same thing as free from copyright 
restrictions

-jack


On February 11, 2016 1:46:53 PM EST, Clifford Snow  
wrote:
>Sixty percent of Washington State counties have open data portals with
>GIS
>data. Washington State laws (Open Records Act) requires that this data
>be
>open to the public. Road data from most of the counties seem to be much
>more current than TIGER data.  I've been creating background tiles for
>nearby counties but I would like to find a way to share the information
>with others. Since tiles use a lot of disk space, I've been looking for
>solution other than using my laptop. One promising solution is Mapbox
>Studio's vector tile service. Unfortunately the ability to provide
>background tiles is not yet available. If anyone from Mapbox has an
>update
>on when, I would be interested in hearing from you.
>
>My questions to the community are:
>  * Is it valuable to have county tiles available as backgrounds in our
>editors?
>  * Counties use all sorts of formats for name and road
>classifications. Should we produce generalized background or a detailed
>background with different colors and line type with a key? The key
>would
>have to be on the wiki as far as I know.
>  * The data is usually updated monthly. How often should we try to
>update the tiles?
>  * Is there a good cost effective solution to serve these tiles?
>   * If the solution is to use a cloud based service, is the US Chapter
>willing to pay for the service?
>
>Washington State is the only state with counties providing open data.
>If
>this works for Washington, it could work for others. If this approach
>is
>adopted, a scaleable solution will be required.
>
>Clifford
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Re: [Talk-us] County Road Tiles

2016-02-11 Thread Clifford Snow
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Ian Dees  wrote:

> Hopefully that last paragraph was a typo, because there are tons of
> counties providing open data. :)
>

Big typo! Should have read, Washington State isn't the only state with...

>
> If someone wants to work with me to get a tiling/caching system going
> please let me know. OSM US already runs a caching tile server with several
> layers for folks in the US to use. I'm happy to add more (and make adding
> more easier).
>

Be happy to. I'll be traveling shortly. Once I get back I'll contact you
directly.

Clifford




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Re: [Talk-us] County Road Tiles

2016-02-11 Thread Ian Dees
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Clifford Snow 
wrote:

> Sixty percent of Washington State counties have open data portals with GIS
> data. Washington State laws (Open Records Act) requires that this data be
> open to the public. Road data from most of the counties seem to be much
> more current than TIGER data.  I've been creating background tiles for
> nearby counties but I would like to find a way to share the information
> with others. Since tiles use a lot of disk space, I've been looking for
> solution other than using my laptop. One promising solution is Mapbox
> Studio's vector tile service. Unfortunately the ability to provide
> background tiles is not yet available. If anyone from Mapbox has an update
> on when, I would be interested in hearing from you.
>
> My questions to the community are:
>   * Is it valuable to have county tiles available as backgrounds in
> our editors?
>   * Counties use all sorts of formats for name and road
> classifications. Should we produce generalized background or a detailed
> background with different colors and line type with a key? The key would
> have to be on the wiki as far as I know.
>   * The data is usually updated monthly. How often should we try to
> update the tiles?
>   * Is there a good cost effective solution to serve these tiles?
>   * If the solution is to use a cloud based service, is the US Chapter
> willing to pay for the service?
>
> Washington State is the only state with counties providing open data. If
> this works for Washington, it could work for others. If this approach is
> adopted, a scaleable solution will be required.
>

Hopefully that last paragraph was a typo, because there are tons of
counties providing open data. :)

If someone wants to work with me to get a tiling/caching system going
please let me know. OSM US already runs a caching tile server with several
layers for folks in the US to use. I'm happy to add more (and make adding
more easier).
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[Talk-us] County Road Tiles

2016-02-11 Thread Clifford Snow
Sixty percent of Washington State counties have open data portals with GIS
data. Washington State laws (Open Records Act) requires that this data be
open to the public. Road data from most of the counties seem to be much
more current than TIGER data.  I've been creating background tiles for
nearby counties but I would like to find a way to share the information
with others. Since tiles use a lot of disk space, I've been looking for
solution other than using my laptop. One promising solution is Mapbox
Studio's vector tile service. Unfortunately the ability to provide
background tiles is not yet available. If anyone from Mapbox has an update
on when, I would be interested in hearing from you.

My questions to the community are:
  * Is it valuable to have county tiles available as backgrounds in our
editors?
  * Counties use all sorts of formats for name and road
classifications. Should we produce generalized background or a detailed
background with different colors and line type with a key? The key would
have to be on the wiki as far as I know.
  * The data is usually updated monthly. How often should we try to
update the tiles?
  * Is there a good cost effective solution to serve these tiles?
  * If the solution is to use a cloud based service, is the US Chapter
willing to pay for the service?

Washington State is the only state with counties providing open data. If
this works for Washington, it could work for others. If this approach is
adopted, a scaleable solution will be required.

Clifford

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