Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [Tagging] [Talk-transit] [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us 
The answer by Clay Smalley was public and visible on mailing lists.
Personally I was not answering because someone started
mailing list thread under badly chosen title and spammed
it to [Talk-us] AND [Tagging] AND [Talk-transit] AND [OSM-talk]

Why not also to [Imports] and [Talk-pl] and [Talk-diversity]
And [talk-ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn]?


Aug 22, 2020, 21:48 by talk-us@openstreetmap.org:

> ever time this person answers, no one else will talk because he is addressing 
> it to me and not the grope.
>  
> i have never id him as he has me, what about the rules ?
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>  Forwarded message 
> From: Clay Smalley <> claysmal...@gmail.com <>> >
> To: 80hnhtv4a...@bk.ru, Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics 
> <> talk-tran...@openstreetmap.org <>> >
> Cc: t...@openstreetmap.org, tagg...@openstreetmap.org, OSM Talk US <> 
> talk-us@openstreetmap.org <>> >
> Date: Saturday, August 22, 2020 2:33 PM -05:00
> Subject: Re: [Tagging] [Talk-transit] [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: 
> Re: VANDALISM !)
>  > Everyone knows who you're talking about at this point, and nobody cares. 
> Use the remaining day or so of your temporary ban to work on some hobbies 
> outside of OpenStreetMap. 
>  
> And be careful about who you say isn't local. I'm moving to Northern Indiana 
> next week and I'll certainly get the chance to survey many of the estimated 
> stop positions I remotely mapped. I hope to see you around as we continue 
> working on the same things.
>  
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 12:21 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-transit <> 
> talk-tran...@openstreetmap.org 
> > 
> > wrote:
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>>> it was one person in CA adding 400 unverified tags to rail service in 
>>> chicago.
>>>  
>>> one just 818 m, away from my home.
>>>  
>>>
 SATURDAY, August 22, 2020 12:32 PM -05:00 from Martin Koppenhoefer < 
 dieterdre...@gmail.com  >:

 sent from a phone
  
 > On 22. Aug 2020, at 10:15, pangoSE < pang...@riseup.net <> > 
 > wrote:
 >
 > Here is yet another example of bad data in our database:

 fix it ;-)

 Of course OpenStreetMap contains errors, just like any other source, and 
 probably more, given that most contributors are laymen and have very few 
 experience (few total edits, often just 1).

 On the other hand, we may be very fast when something changes, very 
 flexible in emergencies (think Haiti), and have interesting niche data 
 that commercial and public data providers don’t care for.

 It all depends on the local community in the end. If you have reached a 
 critical mass to have locals everywhere, it will work great and bugs will 
 wash out. Otherwise the data might get stale just like any other data. 
 Also using the data is essential to find the problems, for example the 212 
 story garage is likely fixed now ;-)

 I tend to agree with Steve A.

 Cheers Martin
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[Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [Tagging] [Talk-transit] [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us 

ever time this person answers, no one else will talk because he is addressing 
it to me and not the grope.
 
i have never id him as he has me, what about the rules ?


 Forwarded message 
From: Clay Smalley < claysmal...@gmail.com >
To: 80hnhtv4a...@bk.ru, Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics < 
talk-tran...@openstreetmap.org >
Cc: t...@openstreetmap.org, tagg...@openstreetmap.org, OSM Talk US < 
talk-us@openstreetmap.org >
Date: Saturday, August 22, 2020 2:33 PM -05:00
Subject: Re: [Tagging] [Talk-transit] [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: 
Re: VANDALISM !)
 
Everyone knows who you're talking about at this point, and nobody cares. Use 
the remaining day or so of your temporary ban to work on some hobbies outside 
of OpenStreetMap. 
 
And be careful about who you say isn't local. I'm moving to Northern Indiana 
next week and I'll certainly get the chance to survey many of the estimated 
stop positions I remotely mapped. I hope to see you around as we continue 
working on the same things.
 
On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 12:21 PM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-transit < 
talk-tran...@openstreetmap.org > wrote:
>>it was one person in CA adding 400 unverified tags to rail service in chicago.
>> 
>>one just 818 m, away from my home.
>> 
>>>SATURDAY, August 22, 2020 12:32 PM -05:00 from Martin Koppenhoefer < 
>>>dieterdre...@gmail.com >:
>>>
>>>sent from a phone
>>> 
 On 22. Aug 2020, at 10:15, pangoSE < pang...@riseup.net > wrote:

 Here is yet another example of bad data in our database:
>>>fix it ;-)
>>>
>>>Of course OpenStreetMap contains errors, just like any other source, and 
>>>probably more, given that most contributors are laymen and have very few 
>>>experience (few total edits, often just 1).
>>>
>>>On the other hand, we may be very fast when something changes, very flexible 
>>>in emergencies (think Haiti), and have interesting niche data that 
>>>commercial and public data providers don’t care for.
>>>
>>>It all depends on the local community in the end. If you have reached a 
>>>critical mass to have locals everywhere, it will work great and bugs will 
>>>wash out. Otherwise the data might get stale just like any other data. Also 
>>>using the data is essential to find the problems, for example the 212 story 
>>>garage is likely fixed now ;-)
>>>
>>>I tend to agree with Steve A.
>>>
>>>Cheers Martin
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>>>https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk 
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