[Talk-us] Fwd: Re: More on TIGER: Where it's likely safe to import

2012-12-17 Thread Charlotte Wolter



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Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:22:10 -0800
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Hi Mike,


I was looking at the web page yu 
created. One problem is that I'm not sure which 
green, light or dark or kinda light or kinda 
dark, means an untouched kilometer. Also, what does black mean?
Then I checked an area I edited 
extensively: Chinle, Arizona. Again, I was 
puzzled because I have worked on most of the 
area, but some is dark green, some light green and some black.
However, the basic idea seems great. It 
just needs a little more interpretation, I think, and maybe different colors?


Best,

Charlotte





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Nice.

Suggestions;

- kill water somehow
- Information density at low zoom levels implies 
that basically everywhere is green. But you zoom 
to the bay area and see this isn't the case. So, 
change the coloring? Modulate it by population density?


Steve

On Dec 16, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 OK this is plain awesome. Great work Mike.

 One note of caution though - the title may suggest that you can just
 go ahead and import away, but folks would still have to follow the
 import guidelines and contact the OSM community at large, come up with
 a solid proposal and discuss that, even if there is no local
 community. I know it says it on the tin, but it's kind of tucked away
 at the bottom.

 Have you looked into full history planet parsing to get a fuller
 picture of editing history? I took a stab at full history user metrics
 some time ago using osmjs;
 https://github.com/mvexel/OSMQualityMetrics/blob/master/UserStats.js -
 this produces one set of metrics for the entire .osh file you feed it
 but it may prove useful for future work. I haven't touched this in a
 while but it should still work :/

 On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote:
 I pulled together some of the notes and 
imagery I've been posting here recently:


http://www.openstreetmap.us/~migurski/green-means-go/

 It's a map of 1km×1km squares covering the 
continental United States. Green squares show 
places where data imports are unlikely to 
interfere with community mapping. Raw data is linked at the bottom.


 Three things that would make this better:

 - Regular updates with archived older versions.
 - Renders for specific counties, intended for local GIS communities.
 - Some awareness of full planet history.

 The OSM-US server has data for regular updates.

 -mike.

 
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Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: More on TIGER: Where it's likely safe to import

2012-12-17 Thread Michal Migurski
On Dec 17, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote:

 Hi Mike,
 
 I was looking at the web page yu created. One problem is that I'm not 
 sure which green, light or dark or kinda light or kinda dark, means an 
 untouched kilometer. Also, what does black mean?
 Then I checked an area I edited extensively: Chinle, Arizona. Again, 
 I was puzzled because I have worked on most of the area, but some is dark 
 green, some light green and some black. 
 However, the basic idea seems great. It just needs a little more 
 interpretation, I think, and maybe different colors?

Green generally means untouched, based the user IDs attached to ways. I think 
I'm undercounting participation from people who edited nodes whose changes 
don't show up in the line table.

-mike.


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